Dealer Tips On Hsp

[HubDub04 0]

HSP is on right now and I thought I saw most of the table throw the dealer some chips for a tip.Any ideas on what a game of that magnitude's tips usually are for the dealer? How does a dealer get the privilege to deal in that game when the tips prolly would be very good?Discuss.

[rgold79 0]

Everybody has a stack of $5 chips that don't play. Those chips are used for toking dealers. Dealing the "big game" is not much more a moneymaking opportunity for a dealer than any other dealt game.

[HangukMiguk 8]

Everybody has a stack of $5 chips that don't play. Those chips are used for toking dealers. Dealing the "big game" is not much more a moneymaking opportunity for a dealer than any other dealt game.

true, except the higher stakes players are usually more apt to know proper cardroom etiquette and follow as such, whereas a low limit player would be more than willing to stiff the dealers.

[LuckyMcCatcher 0]

true, except the higher stakes players are usually more apt to know proper cardroom etiquette and follow as such, whereas a low limit player would be more than willing to stiff the dealers.

yeah but many low stakes players tip very well. I play in games where the fish tip 5-10 bucks a hand. That is phenomenal. High stakes players play for a living and excessive tipping becomes a huge leak.

[mark_999 0]

true, except the higher stakes players are usually more apt to know proper cardroom etiquette and follow as such, whereas a low limit player would be more than willing to stiff the dealers.

Actually i was playing in the Bounty Tournament On doylesroom.com and Asked Todd Brunson how much they tip the dealers on HSP and he says he usually tips them 300$ at the end of the session. I have seen them throw in tips to the dealer during the game also. But i guess some of them Tip them at the end of a 14 hour or how ever long their session is.

[rgold79 0]

Actually i was playing in the Bounty Tournament On doylesroom.com and Asked Todd Brunson how much they tip the dealers on HSP and he says he usually tips them 300$ at the end of the session. I have seen them throw in tips to the dealer during the game also. But i guess some of them Tip them at the end of a 14 hour or how ever long their session is.

I guess doing this would depend on whether dealers are pooling tips or not. Obviously if they aren't this wouldn't work.

[mase_gotsem 0]

how can u say dealing the highstakes game would be not much more profitable ? i no casino dealers who make 100 bux a day dealing and on tips they make 3 4 hundred more a day . in the highstakes game i can garuntee the dealers are making ALOT more in tips my guess would be 500 and up !

[LuckyMcCatcher 0]

how can u say dealing the highstakes game would be not much more profitable ? i no casino dealers who make 100 bux a day dealing and on tips they make 3 4 hundred more a day . in the highstakes game i can garuntee the dealers are making ALOT more in tips my guess would be 500 and up !

Unless you personally deal them you cannot guarantee anything. I have played many times @ Bellagio at a table after the Big game in a dealer rotation, and many a dealer has complained that whatever they do make is not worth the abuse they take and the pressure of not making a mistake.

[Geezy 0]

Why should i tip a dealer anything while I am playing a 1/2 NL game and they take a percentage of every pot as well as 6 dollars every half hour... maybe if I had some nickel chips I would consider it.

[Abe Froman 0]

Why should i tip a dealer anything while I am playing a 1/2 NL game and they take a percentage of every pot as well as 6 dollars every half hour... maybe if I had some nickel chips I would consider it.

You are an atypical tightwad, geez atleast tip a buck everytime you take down a pot, that should be the bare minimum. And if you don't think that dealers notice this type of thing, think again. Last time I was at the Mirage starting out playin 1-2, a guy stiffed the dealer on a couple of pretty decent sized pots; They let the dealer off work early, he came out and played in the game and busted the guy for his whole stack once, and half another time.... Lesson learned.Don't be a tightwad.

[XXEddie 0]

every though they are only $5, if they get one a hand, a dealt for 3 hours(20 hands per hour, 60 hands) thats $300 right there

[Mrjones_76 0]

People generally over tip in low limit games. It amazes me the money a dealer makes. 300 - 500 dollars a day to do an non laboring uneducated job. They should teach all high school drop outs how to deal cards. Most people who tip these dealers don't make that kind of money and give a lot more to their job. Casinos should be responsible for paying their workers not us. I dont mind tipping, but that fact that it is expected is really unfortunate. That goes for anyone who works on tips.

[pokergoat 0]

I read these post a lot and never really reply much, but after reading the comment of the guy who says it is unfortunate that tips are expected in any job and the other dumbass saying why should he tip I just had to say something. I work for tips for a living. And believe me, when you work for tips you remember everyone who doesn't tip you... even if they don't come around again for a year. You remember. For the guy who said he thinks it is unfortunate or the other moron who just doesn't tip, I really hope you are tipping your pizza man or waiter or whomever because if you aren't you are eating some nasty spit and/or all kinds of other **** in your food. What kind of scumbag are you to not tip people or to even think it is unfortunate? You must have been raised a rich brat and not have a clue what's it like to work for a living. But don't worry to much what goes around comes around in three fold and you'll get yours.

[gary21212121 0]

I read these post a lot and never really reply much, but after reading the comment of the guy who says it is unfortunate that tips are expected in any job and the other dumbass saying why should he tip I just had to say something. I work for tips for a living. And believe me, when you work for tips you remember everyone who doesn't tip you... even if they don't come around again for a year. You remember. For the guy who said he thinks it is unfortunate or the other moron who just doesn't tip, I really hope you are tipping your pizza man or waiter or whomever because if you aren't you are eating some nasty spit and/or all kinds of other **** in your food. What kind of scumbag are you to not tip people or to even think it is unfortunate? You must have been raised a rich brat and not have a clue what's it like to work for a living. But don't worry to much what goes around comes around in three fold and you'll get yours.

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[Tiltinagain 973]

I read these post a lot and never really reply much, but after reading the comment of the guy who says it is unfortunate that tips are expected in any job and the other dumbass saying why should he tip I just had to say something. I work for tips for a living. And believe me, when you work for tips you remember everyone who doesn't tip you... even if they don't come around again for a year. You remember. For the guy who said he thinks it is unfortunate or the other moron who just doesn't tip, I really hope you are tipping your pizza man or waiter or whomever because if you aren't you are eating some nasty spit and/or all kinds of other **** in your food. What kind of scumbag are you to not tip people or to even think it is unfortunate? You must have been raised a rich brat and not have a clue what's it like to work for a living. But don't worry to much what goes around comes around in three fold and you'll get yours.

TIP = To Insure Prompt serviceI normally play 3-6 or 2-10 spread limit live cuz that's what's available here and I tip a buck for each pot I win, $2 for larger pots.I tip the pizza delivery guy as long as the pizza shows up pretty close to when they say it will, tip my waitress/waiter 15 - 20% when I receive good service etc... However, if I receive horrible service, ask the waiter for something 2 or 3 times and he still doesn't bring it, the dealer is an *** or the pizza shows up an hour late, cold and the driver doesn't have the order right, why do these people "deserve" a tip.To say that people should tip simply because you're in a job that relies on them to make a living is ridiculous. Tips should be earned not expected.And don't even get me started on Starbucks et al,.. having a tip cup at the counter where I pay for a $4 cup of freaking coffee!!

[trippkelly 0]

I do think it's a crock when you are playing a $3/$6 limit game, and the house is taking $4 off each pot anyway, and you pull down some little $20 pot and are expected to tip a buck to the dealer. I will tip maybe every 3 pots I win, but I'd go in the hole at low limits, having to share $5 out of every little pot. And when you figure that HIGH STAKES are only tipping $5 per pot, they are tipping a much smaller percentage of each pot. I'd tip a quarter every pot at the low limits, if they'd give me some quarter chips. LOL!

[FourFlusher 0]

If dealers don't make out, they move on, and we get lousy, minimum wage idiots that don't care handling our table.Most dealers are adequate, at best, and that's ok, they get the job done. But, when a good dealer taps in you can tell the difference from the first hand...it's a thing of beauty to see some one that's good at his craft.I not only tip them a little better, I tell them I appreciate them.

[Mrjones_76 0]

If dealers don't make out, they move on, and we get lousy, minimum wage idiots that don't care handling our table.Most dealers are adequate, at best, and that's ok, they get the job done. But, when a good dealer taps in you can tell the difference from the first hand...it's a thing of beauty to see some one that's good at his craft.I not only tip them a little better, I tell them I appreciate them.

This is an earned tip ...you are getting better service and more hands per hour. If the tip is automatic it makes the service worse

[mrdannyg 274]

I read these post a lot and never really reply much, but after reading the comment of the guy who says it is unfortunate that tips are expected in any job and the other dumbass saying why should he tip I just had to say something. I work for tips for a living. And believe me, when you work for tips you remember everyone who doesn't tip you... even if they don't come around again for a year. You remember. For the guy who said he thinks it is unfortunate or the other moron who just doesn't tip, I really hope you are tipping your pizza man or waiter or whomever because if you aren't you are eating some nasty spit and/or all kinds of other **** in your food. What kind of scumbag are you to not tip people or to even think it is unfortunate? You must have been raised a rich brat and not have a clue what's it like to work for a living. But don't worry to much what goes around comes around in three fold and you'll get yours.

some jobs have pay structures that imply tips are expected. delivery guys and waiters for example get paid very poor wages, often below minimum wage, because tips are expected. all that tips are expected to do is bring their pay in line with regular salary for that job, while benefiting those who perform well with above-average pay.in some places, dealers are paid good wages, and tips are simply bonus. thus, not tipping is not a sign of cheapness, it is simply a sign that you don't feel you are receiving excellent service. in a lot of places, dealers make shitty salary because tips are expected. fine. but it is a job that demands almost no skill or education. so dealers should not expect a tip from every pot, because the job they are doing does not deserve $30+/hour. if they get a tip from most decent pots, they'll be making $15-25/hour, which is reasonable for their job. if they're good, they'll make more, and if they suck, they'll make less. thats how it works. i friggin hate it when dealers expect a tip from every pot, like its a ****ing right or something, when they work half as hard as people who make half as much as them, just because the poor **** somehow managed to back into a $36 pot before he went broke.

[Mrjones_76 0]

I read these post a lot and never really reply much, but after reading the comment of the guy who says it is unfortunate that tips are expected in any job and the other dumbass saying why should he tip I just had to say something. I work for tips for a living. And believe me, when you work for tips you remember everyone who doesn't tip you... even if they don't come around again for a year. You remember. For the guy who said he thinks it is unfortunate or the other moron who just doesn't tip, I really hope you are tipping your pizza man or waiter or whomever because if you aren't you are eating some nasty spit and/or all kinds of other **** in your food. What kind of scumbag are you to not tip people or to even think it is unfortunate? You must have been raised a rich brat and not have a clue what's it like to work for a living. But don't worry to much what goes around comes around in three fold and you'll get yours.

So tip not to be nice but so someone does not mess with my food ...lolAnd because you work for tips it is the right thing to do? Drug dealers think people should buy drugs too. And if I was a spoiled rich brat I wouldnt give a shi t about the money. I work hard for my money and love my job, and will tip if earned not expected.

[Mrjones_76 0]

By the way should dealers make more than cops, teachers, or fireman?...Believe me it's not close. Not that they should feel bad about making more we all choose our path, but just something to think about when a dealer has an attitude about some guy not tipping a dollar on a 12 dollar pot.

[Balloon guy 158]

I noticed that when Doyle won about $50K from Gold he tipped the dealer a black chip - $100. Don't know if he got change or not but seems like he tipped him $100.I tip dealers well, but I hate it when they follow me home begging me to teach them my skills.I tell them: "Go buy Play Poker Like the Pros and study, there are no short cuts man."

[meant2 0]

I read these post a lot and never really reply much, but after reading the comment of the guy who says it is unfortunate that tips are expected in any job and the other dumbass saying why should he tip I just had to say something. I work for tips for a living. And believe me, when you work for tips you remember everyone who doesn't tip you... even if they don't come around again for a year. You remember. For the guy who said he thinks it is unfortunate or the other moron who just doesn't tip, I really hope you are tipping your pizza man or waiter or whomever because if you aren't you are eating some nasty spit and/or all kinds of other **** in your food. What kind of scumbag are you to not tip people or to even think it is unfortunate? You must have been raised a rich brat and not have a clue what's it like to work for a living. But don't worry to much what goes around comes around in three fold and you'll get yours.

the guy made a really good comment about how they're employers should be the ones paying them adequately, not the customer. it sounded to me that he thought it was unfortunate that the system is set up that way. personally, i agree.as for spitting and/or other nasty s*** waiters and delivery workers do to these customers. i'm sure karma rewards them with much worse than the guy who didn't tip them. perhaps with 10 more yrs of delivering pizzas for a living

[DoinSublime 0]

People generally over tip in low limit games. It amazes me the money a dealer makes. 300 - 500 dollars a day to do an non laboring uneducated job. They should teach all high school drop outs how to deal cards. Most people who tip these dealers don't make that kind of money and give a lot more to their job. Casinos should be responsible for paying their workers not us. I dont mind tipping, but that fact that it is expected is really unfortunate. That goes for anyone who works on tips.

Having worked in fine dining my whole adult life, I get paid very well by mostly wealthy people because I know how to serve them professionally. No mistakes, utmost food and wine knowledge, class, proper english, and leaving them alone. /shrug. I didn't make it the way it is, but it works just fine for us in the loop so to speak.And, yes, when you get dressed up once a year and bring your girl out and act all that and usually don't tip well, you stick out like a sore thumb and we really don't pay much attention to you, but we do make fun of you and your girl in about every way imaginable, mostly clothes and manners actually, pretty much because it's so obvious you don't get it and you are out of your element.Thanks for sharing.

[Abe Froman 0]

Are you all serious with your "I don't need to tip philosophy"? I'm not saying you gotta give them a huge tip, but geez, if the guy/gal is friendly and does his/her job properly, throw them a bone. One lady I played with at the Mirage 1/2 game tipped $1 no matter the size of the pot (unless it was really big, then probably $2, and if the pot was uber-small...in the $10 range, she may not have even tipped-but few pots are this small). I don't think there is anything wrong with this at all. I personally tip more than that, but tipping and average of $1 per pot is adequate at this level I would say. Like somebody said TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service (or as I have heard it To Insure Proper Service). There is a normally a reason that you don't get your food as fast as a regular 20% tipper when you are leaving your 10%. And yes, the person providing the service should ean it, and not expect it, but you don't need to make them wipe your *** to earn a tip. And for the record as annoying as it is to see people repeatedly not tip, it IS equally annoying to see a dealer/waiter being a prick and EXPECT a TIP... yes it must be earned, but give em' a break. And yes, there are waiters and dealers that may make more than a teacher and possibly other professions....SO What? Now your punishing the guy for making a good career decision. I am sure you are saying that a teacher/cops job is more important to society, and I highly doubt anybody will argue with you. Do YOU make more than a teacher/cop? Is YOUR job more important to society? Not to mention there are a decent amount of dealers that are either paying their way through school, or have Semi-retired from their main job to Las Vegas and enjoy that atmosphere; don't punish them for that. Give em' a break.