seanthecon 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 graduated less than a year ago from high school.. still living at home... as of now my only income is poker becuase only jobs for me around here is kitchen work which i guess i could say by now i am a Master Hydro Ceramics Tech.(dishwasher) and line cook.. or retarted factory work at green mountain coffee roasters....looking for a trade school of some sort but dont have the slightest clue as to what to persue...a 4 year college is too much of a gamble. to come out with nothing, or possible smoke and drink my self out, which i have seen way to many friends do. and do not want to follow... the only thing that i can see my self enjoying is some sort of casino carrer. But im so tired of mindless monotonous work, and even tho i love the game, dont know how much i would enjoy being a dealer even tho i understand u have to start somewhere and work your way up..what i was wondering was if anybody knows where i could obatin information on specific casino careers(possibly managment, tournament director kinda stuff. possible security? dont know how that would go with my bad habbits tho. (which i never mess with before or during the workplace) but any suggestions would be great.... im going crazy...dont think the 20K a year if i play the rate im playing (alot....alot...) will be enough to get out of moms house.. and get on with a real life... Link to post Share on other sites
Socrates 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Go to college, there is always a way and I guarantee you'll come out with something. Just having a HS diploma will get you nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites
1969_F85 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I don't know too much about the actual career in a casino, but I do deal for a B&M card room. It is illegal here in Indiana, but I don't really give a rats azz about that. I have fun doing it and I make great tips. But I also have a real job, I am a Network Administrator for a local manufacturing firm. That sounds great and great pay, but it really isn't. The company I work for just bought the place a year ago and they do not value technology at all. They don't even have nor want a website. The new CEO says, "If it is just to tell people who we are and what we do, then I pay sale people for that. Show me how it can make me money and I will buy into it." I have to practically prove that there is life on Mars just to order a video card if I need it. What this leads me to is that it doesn't really matter what you decide to do, college or whatever. Just make sure you are happy doing it. I was happy with my job under the previous owner because he was a techno-geek. He had to have the latest greatest whatever in the tech-sector. But now I am reduced to a mere helpdesk person with no future. DO what you like, have fun at it, live within those means and smile. My plans are to audition for a casino here in Indiana (we have some boats on both north and south borders) and if I can get a job there I plan on working my way towards bigger and better things in that industry. I know that my job here isn't going anywhere and I like being in the poker atmosphere so I will see where that takes me, hell I will probably make better cash doing that anyway wihtout the BS of being responsable for servers, phone systems, etc... As for your "bad habits", you may have to clean up for a month or so to get hired, then if there are no random testing you should be fine. I assume you are talking about smoking a little and nothing more serious. If that is the case, then I don't see a problem with it. Many people drink and because our fu-cked up government think that is ok then people that smoke a little grass are deemed criminals. Whatever, I could debate about how alcohol is worse for your body and society, but I don't want to get into that kind of debate, it doesn't do any good. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Go tot college, there is always a way and I guarantee you'll come out with something. Just having a HS diploma will get you nowhere.I think this statement is one of the dumbest things ive heard recently. Look into this a bit more. Bill Gates dropped out of college, and hes somewhere, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Jrobb25 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I think this statement is one of the dumbest things ive heard recently. Look into this a bit more. Bill Gates dropped out of college, and hes somewhere, lol.YEAH Ballon Guy is a millionaire look at him now Link to post Share on other sites
Merlopj 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Here's a pep talk lil' fella. Grab some money, get in your car and go take a vacation this spring. Drive across the country. Go visit long lost friends or relatives. See Mt. Rushmore, check out a baseball game in a strange town with no teams you root for... You must be going crazy living with the folks right now, but there's way more ahead of you. The next ten years are going to be the greatest ones of your life so don't blow it. Go find something that interests you more than getting fuzzy and spending all night with your Xbox... You've got way more potential than you realize, so go make something great out of yourself. If you had the tenacity to learn and succeed at poker, you've got the balls to take on more than that. Don't just grab a casino job because it's your best option right now. (no offense to any casino worker meant) Get better options if you want them. Also, try college. Moving out really helps motivate people. Not to mention how much fun it can be. To quote Dave Attell "THere's a time and a place for everything. That's called College." I miss college every day.Good luck, and don't let your depressants get you down.P Link to post Share on other sites
TwoFourOffsuit 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I think this statement is one of the dumbest things ive heard recently. Look into this a bit more. Bill Gates dropped out of college, and hes somewhere, lol.Also, I know tons of college grads who can't get a better job than retail or customer service. A degree is by no means a lock to a fine career. ETA: This is not to discredit anyone who does get a degree: I'm working on one myself. But as someone who's been able to make a decent living without a degree, and known many others who have, not having one isn't necessarily a disqualifier. (end edit)As for casino careers... I wouldn't recommend it. You won't be allowed to gamble at the establishment you work at, or if it's part of a group, likely any of the other casinos within that group.Also, as a son of two parents who worked for decades in casinos, and as someone who worked for a spell in a LV Strip casino himself... it SUUUUUUCKS. Some find a great fit but many, many more do not. It is a soul sucking grind that will take away your holidays, weekends, nights, and basically, your life if you're not careful. Oh yeah, and you get treated like garbage a LOT, by your customers, your bosses and your coworkers. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I think this statement is one of the dumbest things ive heard recently. Look into this a bit more. Bill Gates dropped out of college, and hes somewhere, lol.c'mon guys...we've been through this many times.to people who like school: it's the standard for those looking for careers that require the paper. there are other options in life. others have been sucessful without school.to people who hate school: you can't deny that it limits your job opportunities to go without school. for a large population it logically makes sense to finish the academics. Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Anyone can start a company with no degree and be a millionaire. But for most people, a degree will go a long way. Most of the "real jobs" require it. I always say that experience is better then education. But most of my major clients don't seem to agree Link to post Share on other sites
goose 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 To get onto topic...a) If you want to work for a casino, you need to go to a casino training school, learn blackjack (plus a game like Craps/Hold'Em/Roullette would go a long way), and then find a casino that is hiring. Instead of an interview (although that might be part of it) you 'audition' - you deal for the casino and they have a recruiter rate you.B) Dealing is generally very repitative and if you're looking for action, it's not the greatest job unless you consistently deal a high action game like Craps, or you can get into the poker room and you like poker a lot.c) Moving up generally starts with a lower position (usually dealing) and working your way up from grunt (dealer for example) to floor supervisor, to pit boss, and then from the pit boss and up positions (i.e. shift manager) they usually pick the guys who will be the tournament directors.d) Good luck finding a good paying dealing job in Vegas, it's very difficult without experience. You're better to start off outside of Vegas. Link to post Share on other sites
goose 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Vegas/Nevada + couple other jobs and toke rates : http://www.thedealersnews.com/Check out their forums, lots of info for prospective dealers: http://www.dicedealer.com Link to post Share on other sites
rgold79 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I think this statement is one of the dumbest things ive heard recently. Look into this a bit more. Bill Gates dropped out of college, and hes somewhere, lol.I think this statement is one of the dumbest things I've heard recently.OP, you sound pretty motivated to do something to improve where you are in life. That's a very good start. If you're worried about struggling at a full time college, there are other options. You can go to school part time, take classes at night or enroll in community college. There are a number of options available. If you're interested in breaking into the casino industry it might be helpful to move to a place like LV or AC, if you have the money saved up. As a high school grad (and an English speaker, frankly) you will not have trouble getting entry level hourly jobs. If you're willing to start small at something like this and work on your education part time, it's very likely that you'll advance quickly to something you find satisfying and worthwhile. Probably not dealing, but there are many off-floor jobs that need to be filled. Look into programs at different schools for part time students and find out if you qualify for grants or financial aid that will lessen the burden and make it easy for you to move if that's what you really want to do. If you're serious about wanting to do something good for yourself, then you have to put yourself out there and make it happen. And don't listen to anyone who tells you you can slack off and fall *** backwards into millions, because it is the infinitly small exception to the large rule. Link to post Share on other sites
seanthecon 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 well it sounds like if i want to persue any sort of casino career, i have to grind out the tables for a couple years.... "monotonous"i guess maybe u guys could tell me how u found out what u like to do... becuase i know im goign to have to work to get a job that i am passonate about and enojoy(ie. school).. but christ am i the only person who wants to get a job they enjoy? becuase its all about money moeny moeny moeny. get a job get a job get a job. whats the point in having the money and the job if your completly miserable... you spend more than half your day at this place 5 days a week or more. i dont think its too much to ask to find something you enojoy..im clueless...how did u guys come across what you love doing now? or did u do what you needed to to pay the morgage and thats the end of the story... Link to post Share on other sites
TwoFourOffsuit 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 One more thing: you're still young. I know you're tired of hearing that but it's important to note. What you want, need and enjoy will change quite a bit over the next 10 years, even after you reach a point where you're CERTAIN you know what you want. You'll find a couple years later than you've changed completely.It's gonna take a lot of time and work experience to figure out what kind of work you like. One advantage of waiting to attend college is that you (hopefully) gain some experience in the working world and see first hand what it's like and what you want/don't want out a career. So if dealing's what you really want to do for now... I'd say go for it, and even if you don't like it, be sure to give it time unless it's REALLY uncomfortable. And don't be afraid to ditch and find another gig or go back to school if your sentiment changes.Also, don't be in a rush to get hitched and take out a mortgage. That ties you down more than people realize and, if you don't like your situation, it's much harder to up and change things. Link to post Share on other sites
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