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One of my very first posts (Strat Section) in this Forum was greeted with a "Your Retarted" response. I do think it was and is rude, even if accompanied with a :club:...which brings up an interesting question......if you accompany even the most rude comment with a :D is it then considered OK?
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I did'nt mind the old "get aborted" the short quick ones make me laugh, I actually have randomly said to people your mother is a wheur, and when I say it Im 100% joking because its sooo absurd that its not insulting IMO
If I'm telling you to get aborted, I really truly do not mean that I wish you had a stainless steel spear jabbed into the back of your skull and your brains sucked out of your undeveloped head with a vaccuum. I'm saying, "Start over, champ..sit this one out."
i don't think people with higher post counts should be given more slack, but that the people who make better contributions should. DDIDM definately has made valuble contributions to the NLHE strat and sometimes he freaks out at stupidity, no whoop.on we go.
TY Sir. ..and I'm coming to a PLO forum near you, January, 2007..rated PG, obv.
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One of my very first posts (Strat Section) in this Forum was greeted with a "Your Retarted" response. I do think it was and is rude, even if accompanied with a :club:...which brings up an interesting question......if you accompany even the most rude comment with a :D is it then considered OK?
I can promise you, as big of a jackass as I am..I've never been outright mean to anyone in strat.Zach, on the other hand..
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I can promise you, as big of a jackass as I am..I've never been outright mean to anyone in strat.Zach, on the other hand..
lol, come on, it wasn't even that bad!and prolly my only flame in strat, which is why I wanted a link to see wtf was going on, lol.
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That is a good example. Just a bunch of us having our own little fun with a little crazily addictive online game and boom, out of nowhere...
QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 8:29 AM) *WHAT A WASTE OF TIME! WHY ARE YOU SPENDING TIME ON THIS! THINK ABOUT IT.DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 9:50 AM) *yes **** eater, quite a comment. so how many times in total have you masturbated to that avatar of yours?keep wasting your time dumb ****QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 10:11 AM) *i guarantee it has been more than that.and the fact that you even admitted that you are a horny prick is even more embarrassing, go fall down a well and break your foot, die of starvation and rid the world of your constant suck at the worlds resources, you low life waste of breath.QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 5:04 PM) *WHY? you are wasting your time by posting ****** bag posts 2400 times.you eat your mothers *** hole, **** headHoly crap those are bad.....
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QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 8:29 AM) *WHAT A WASTE OF TIME! WHY ARE YOU SPENDING TIME ON THIS! THINK ABOUT IT.DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 9:50 AM) *yes **** eater, quite a comment. so how many times in total have you masturbated to that avatar of yours?keep wasting your time dumb ****QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 10:11 AM) *i guarantee it has been more than that.and the fact that you even admitted that you are a horny prick is even more embarrassing, go fall down a well and break your foot, die of starvation and rid the world of your constant suck at the worlds resources, you low life waste of breath.QUOTE(cu in 4years Dan @ Wednesday, January 17th, 2007, 5:04 PM) *WHY? you are wasting your time by posting ****** bag posts 2400 times.you eat your mothers *** hole, **** headHoly crap those are bad.....
I dont think these cross the line at all...................lol
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lol, nm.I think I found it, and embarassingly enough, it may have been me.But I swear, it was totally taken out of context, and we hugged and made up in the thread.
OK... now I real am laughing out loud!For some reason I thought it was Royal that called me retarded.Yes, we made up and we've shared what I feel is actually good strategic advice a number of times since then!
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my bad if i contributed to it at all yesterday. all i was trying to do was get him to let it go and stop trying to take away from the thread with his comments about how we should look for ourselves on cardplayer/he doesnt like hockey jerseys and then his flaming responses cuz i wanted to see how dn was doing while i was studying.

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Here's the real problem. The mods don't really wanna stop anyone. And you all have WAY more fun flaming than you do writing about poker anyway. Isan't that right? Its really just disrespect. You've decided that this is your forum to screw with people and you're gonna do just that. And its gonna be that way until/unless they really do crack down.And I'm sure this will get me flamed, but I doubt anyone will actually prove it to be incorrect.
not true in the slightest. Its a catch-22 really and I know that more often then not, I'm the one on the firing line. If I don't do something, then I'm not doing my job right, and when I do something that some people may not like, I'm a friggin nazi. Things aren't nearly as bad right now as they were over the summer and were in late spring last year, but I am still very annoyed that crap like last night happens in threads like that. Its the same way I felt about the Blair Rodman fiasco. You see though, its a no-win situation and the problem is, is that this place is way undermodded. I know that Doug is never around because he's still dealing with his hacking that happened over the summer and everyone else does what they can. Its hard when only three of us are ever around 70% of the time combined and with teh size of the place now I find that we are more under moderated then when DN created more mods back in nov of 05. I've modded this site now for two years come july(weber made me a hidden mod when he went to the WSOP) and personally I'm probably more overwhelmed then I have been at any point. Its a whole bunch of things that also has to do with personal situations on several fronts and trying to moderate this site in a unbiased and fair manner in the way that I see fit, and some of the time it doesn't come close to what certain people think this site should be, but I will say outside of two decisions that I have made in my 19 months of modding, I feel that I have been correct on every single one. C'est la Vie. I'm off my highhorse right now, but I want people to know where I'm coming from. If they choose to believe me or not, that's up to them
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fellate me first, then something may get worked out
I think we can work something out.In all seriousness, as you are saying, your short on mods with everyone gone...I spend like 20 hours a day here...lolI almost have 10k posts. :PAll I really want to do is make good stickies in Strat, to be honest, lol, and move the posts from Gen Strat to the right forum to make like easier on you guys... :club:
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i'm not sure about what happened the other day so i'm hardly qualified to say anything about that and won't.in general, though, i think the line between "funny" flames and "mean" flames isn't as fine as some people have made it out to be in this thread, and i think that lumping the two together and banning them in a similar fashion would be a detriment to the forum as a whole. while i don't flame people myself, it's mostly due to the fact that i'm just not especially funny when i try that sort of stuff, and i think the forum would be better off if a few people were able to make the same judgment about their ability to make people laugh in a flamewar. but when i read others' flames, they honestly make me laugh a lot of the time and i'd hate to have that stop entirely. do i think that sometimes people go over the edge? yes, of course. but i also think that isn't the case all the time, and it's part of the job of a moderator to decide on a case by case basis whether a post has crossed that invisible line.simply, that's a tough ****ing job and i'm not envious of those who have to do it. the moderators here do a great job imho, and i don't think that anyone who has ever moderated a forum in the past (i have a couple times) would be able to say otherwise. if it's decided that the forum needs more moderators, then fine, get some more, but i'd be the first person to come to the defense of the job done by the ones we have right now.as for the strat forums, to be honest, i wouldn't like to see them changed at all. there's been talk of merging various forums so that more people see them, but i think that most of what that would accomplish would just lead people who know little about a game to put their two cents in and lead people astray. most of my strat posts are in o8 (and a bit of 2-7 now), and i don't think very many people realize what great poker minds we actually have on this forum. again, i'm only speaking for the o8 forum here, but i can say pretty confidently that the level of discussion in our o8 forum beats 2+2 in a LOT of threads. i lurk over there, and while there is certainly a greater number of accomplished o8 players on 2+2, there is also a greater number of people who think they know what they're talking about when they don't. imho, that does more harm to a strategy section than having too many specialized forums for different games, limits, whatever. i've mentioned a couple times that i actually think that the ways one should think about LO8, SHLO8, and PLO8 are different enough to warrant different forums, even. i'm not a specialist in very many other games, so i'm not sure if that sort of idea would apply to other forums as well. in any case, all i mean to say is that having a forum that requires a couple more clicks to navigate isn't such a bad thing.i also don't want to see the general forum go anywhere. it's a good balance between off topic and really specialized poker discussion, and it's also a good place for newcomers to become acquainted with the fcp atmosphere. yes, that includes genuine poker discussion, flames, and idiocy alike. i REALLY like that some people have started occasionally posting strat hands in general in order to let it be more known that real poker discussion does happen here, and i will probably start doing the same (though i rarely make new strat topics, either--i prefer to just respond). some of the best strat discussions i've ever seen, on fcp or otherwise, have actually happened in general. moreover, general is a good place for people that are new to poker to ask pretty basic questions. and that's fine--we all used to be green with respect to poker, and it behooves the more seasoned among us to respond genuinely to those "easy" questions in a straightforward and honest manner.the bottom line is that, for me at least, fcp is a pretty good balance of personality and content, and that's why i make my posts here and not over at 2+2. i, for one, don't want to see that change, and the idea that any flamepost=instaban might make that disappear. moderators are around to make specific judgments about specific cases, and i fully trust them to do that. of course i won't agree with all of their decisions with regard to specific cases, but i shouldn't expect to. i think too many people think that they should be able to agree with what moderators do sometimes and disagree with them at other times and that thereby the moderators are doing a bad job. they aren't. they're people that have to make judgment calls, and i appreciate the fact that they're around.this is all, of course, just one opinion, but i thought i'd say my piece.

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geez...just say you wanna be a mod too Checky. what's with all the writing!? :club:
i can't play the lapc tourney today cuz i have to pick someone up at the airport. i chose to make a long post rather than play 2 hrs of LHE, lol. :Pand i DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT want to be a mod. just fyi. :D
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i can't play the lapc tourney today cuz i have to pick someone up at the airport. i chose to make a long post rather than play 2 hrs of LHE, lol. :Pand i DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT want to be a mod. just fyi. :D
ok ok ok, so you want to be a mod. what's the big deal? :club:
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I'm not begging for a job, but why doesn't the staff look at appointing more mods?Every other forum I've been a part of has Admins, Super Mods and Mods. Admins have free reign, Super Mods usually have large sections of the forum and Mods usually just have a very small section to maintain. The guys who are very active in Strat should be considered for those Strat sections. The guys who are active in General (OT and Gen Poker) should be considered for those areas. And so forth.

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What is a FLAME War? Another US approach to escalating conflicts that will never be resolved? :icon_hand:I love the US! Really I do. Anyone use neteller recently? hehe

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I haven't read any but the first 5 or so posts in this thread but I'm guessing there's no one to post in the Sick thread anymore. Sad really.

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All I know is that if the Canadians were kicked off here this would be a much better forum.And did I read right? Did DNA ask us to PM him when we catch someone flaming?? :club: WOW :D

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All I know is that if the Canadians were kicked off here this would be a much better forum.And did I read right? Did DNA ask us to PM him when we catch someone flaming?? :club: WOW :D
We're taking Daniel with us!!
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I know that when I used to get into it with people here it was usually related to how I was running/playing at the tables/life. Not always, but mostly. Most probably wouldn't admit it, but I'd bet it's the same for others as well.I think poker forums, especially ones like this that are smaller communities, are different than most forums in that sometimes the very thing we come here to talk about is a freakin sore subject.FCP is a great place for many reasons and I thank everyone who makes it great. A little less flaming would be a good thing, I just hope it doesn't get too restrictive.

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I :club: gossip. How the hell did I miss this all last night ?Mods, most of us appreciate all you do. Adding a few couldn't really hurt, could it ? I'd second/third/whatever the nomination for Zach. Actuary seems to be pretty level headed too and obviously spends a lot of time here. RAB and HangukM seem pretty devoted to FCP. There are a lot of people here who seem like they would be great candidates. Are we over the salary cap ?

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