Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 You gotta give credit the Pens for going for the CUP..However they have significantly hurt their immediate future as it seems a lot to give up for a rental...I respect Shero though for going for it...I would of tried to add a goalie as well...lol... they have Conklin who has been lights out, and they have Fleury coming back... that's about as good of a 1-2 punch as any team will have, not to mention that there wasn't much out there, and probably nothing that would have been a significant upgrade to these two. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 lol... they have Conklin who has been lights out, and they have Fleury coming back... that's about as good of a 1-2 punch as any team will have, not to mention that there wasn't much out there, and probably nothing that would have been a significant upgrade to these two.Playoffs are a different story Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I don't think anyone is talking about Crosby needing a new roommate now on the road. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Playoffs are a different storyHow would a Leafs fan know this? Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 if the Pens can't resign Hossa this will have been a bad trade. Do they the cap space to make a serious bid for Hossa?Also, is the cup really feasible this season with their current goaltending situation?I think Zach said they have 12 million in cap space, so I assume they'll be fine. They got rid of Armstrong and Christensen's salaries, too. I agree that they had better try to resign Hossa, and I think their success (or lack thereof) this year will be a big factor. They had better make the Finals.I think they have the goaltending to do so, because if you look at the East - there aren't a whole lot of teams that are rock solid in goal. You got Brodeur in NJ, but who else? Maybe Lundqvist in NY, but he's been streaky. Ottawa have the Gerber/Emery drama, Montreal just threw their hope at a relatively inexperienced goalie in Price, and while Buffalo still has Miller, they are fighting for a bubble spot and are currently in 9th. I think the Pens definitely have the goaltending to compete in the east, at least, with Fleury and Conklin. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I think Zach said they have 12 million in cap space,Yeah, a lot of that was based on speculation, and included signing Malkin, and a couple other guys, two of whom are gone now.It changes a bit, now. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Mark Madden (Pittsburgh ESPN Radio Analyst), "Chemistry doesn't score goals, Marian Hossa scores goals." Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Let's be honest guys. I know we all loved Colby, and I know we all loved EC's hands, but seriously, neither of them are performing as they should be.Initially, I'm sad to lose them, but replacing them with guys like Filewich and James, or a free agent in the summer, isn't going to be a big deal, imho. Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I know but add Esposito and a 1st rounder into the mix, and I can't help but gripe about it. Overpaying that much makes me feel losing both Colby and Christensen wasn't necessary. I hope Shero knows what he's doing. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I know but add Esposito and a 1st rounder into the mix, and I can't help but gripe about it. Overpaying that much makes me feel losing both Colby and Christensen wasn't necessary. I hope Shero knows what he's doing.As a rent a player scenario I'm shaky with it. If we can resign Hossa, I'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Mark Madden (Pittsburgh ESPN Radio Analyst), "Chemistry doesn't score goals, Marian Hossa scores goals, except in the playoffs"FYP Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 As a rent a player scenario I'm shaky with it. If we can resign Hossa, I'm all for it.Do you think that the Penguins can have $25 million tied up into 3 players???I dont think it can happen..Shero is going for the Cup this year Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Yeah, I dunno.Espo is a coinflip, and the 1st rounder sucks.I certainly agree it's an overpayment, but I've just been trying to find some positive linings to what looks like a gross overpayment on paper.I don't have a lot of confidence in locking up Hossa either. Serge is right, you can't have 3 guys making 25 million. Maybe they give him a 1 year deal while Malkin is still making 1 M? Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Do you think that the Penguins can have $25 million tied up into 3 players???I dont think it can happen..Shero is going for the Cup this yeari think they can do it for $21-22 millionbut i agree Shero is going for the Cup this year Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Best line of the day by Cliff Fletcher:The Leafs are skating in a different arena. I am trading for draft picks, my son is trading for Marion Hossa. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Fwiw, Hossa and Dupuis were the top two penalty killing forwards in Atlanta. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 oh, and no one in the NHL has played more PK minutes than Hal Gill. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Fwiw, Hossa and Dupuis were the top two penalty killing forwards in Atlanta.A PK that's 25th in NHL will welcome them. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Best line of the day by Cliff Fletcher:The Leafs are skating in a different arena. I am trading for draft picks, my son is trading for Marion Hossa.What he meant to say was he spent the day shopping for new golf clubs for April 6th. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 A PK that's 25th in NHL will welcome them.I thought the Pens were in the top 10 in PK? I must have been mistaken. 25th, really? Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I thought the Pens were in the top 10 in PK? I must have been mistaken. 25th, really?yep, they started the year pretty good, but have really been struggling overall.http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/statistics?s...=all&row1=1 Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hal Gill is great in the PK...You will like him. Link to post Share on other sites
fryer98 30 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 I thought the Pens were in the top 10 in PK? I must have been mistaken. 25th, really?Yea, I was going to tell you that in the tread thread, until the Hossa trade happened.I think they're top 10 at home (8th, im thinking?) so maybe you heard that?Edit: 8th at home, 28th on the road. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 That must have been what I heard. My bad.Good news, anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
fryer98 30 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hal Gill.... Link to post Share on other sites
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