MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Pet peeve: anyone who says you can't afford to have Crosby and Malkin on the same team. Even in a cap world, youd be crazy to break them up for cap reasons. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Pet peeve: anyone who says you can't afford to have Crosby and Malkin on the same team. Even in a cap world, youd be crazy to break them up for cap reasons. Superstars are a bargain It's paying 2nd and 3rd tier players big money that is the killer Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Superstars are a bargain It's paying 2nd and 3rd tier players big money that is the killer I think paying top of the league salary for avg goaltending is a killer. Also, as Zach pointed out, after this year there will be lots of room to add players, as cap starts going up, and superstars are still signed. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It's still going to be tight next year because Letang's new deal kicks in. He has not progressed how I hoped... Though partially due to bad injury/stroke luck, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Superstars are a bargain It's paying 2nd and 3rd tier players big money that is the killer Cough*clarkson*cough Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It's still going to be tight next year because Letang's new deal kicks in. He has not progressed how I hoped... Though partially due to bad injury/stroke luck, I think. guess the cap for next year for Pit will depend on how badly they need to resign Nisk+Orpik, and for how much. Looks to me like a Cup contender if they can just find a cheap 3rd line from the UFA pile, exp guys who dont sign with other teams and end up taking 1mill in August. Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I'm 95% sure Orpik will not be with the team next year. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Pet peeve: anyone who says you can't afford to have Crosby and Malkin on the same team. Even in a cap world, youd be crazy to break them up for cap reasons. It's not that you can't afford them. When you are paying $25 mill in cap to Crosby, Malkin, Letang till eternity. It limits your options. Other teams have same issues. Have to manage the bottom end with bargains like Mason Raymond. Limit the Clarkson deals , and find more Raymond's. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 1m PIT will announce this morning GM Ray Shero and head coach Dan Bylsma have been fired. #TSN Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Wow. Waiting for the replacements before I judge. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Wow. Waiting for the replacements before I judge. JFJ and Wilson come on down Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Wow. Waiting for the replacements before I judge. I think a change is needed..You arent trading away any of your players....Not the main guys anyways, so the only change that can happen is with coach and management.. Is Mario calling the shots? There isnt a Brian Burke, Brendan Shanahan, Trevor Linden role in Pittsburgh right? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 JFJ and Wilson come on down PLEASE..One time dealer Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 JFJ and Wilson come on down God that is funny. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It's been 25 minutes...I'm surprised that Shero doesn't have a new job yet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Shero's already rumored for the opening in DC. Who know's where they'll go. Do they hire from within with current assistant GM Jason Botterill (mentioned in a lot of GM openings) and AHL Pens coach John Hynes? I'm not sure if that's the route to go or if a fresh viewpoint might be the beneficial. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Wow...only Shero got the ax so far. Pens just wrapped up a news conference. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm just dumbfounded at how this went down. What possible reason could they have for doing it this way? Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm just dumbfounded at how this went down. What possible reason could they have for doing it this way? They like the coaching, but not the players he's been provided with? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It makes sense. If they think the GM is the problem, let the new one make a decision on the coach. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 This has to be a pretty rare occurrence. Firing the GM and possibly retaining the coach. I have no evidence to back this up but I would have to guess the opposite is more likely to happen. Saw this resurrected from a previous playoff win staving off elimination. Seemed appropriate today. http://youtu.be/xAaMWcCdDW4 Also Dejan is typing up an exclusive interview with Ron Burkle and Mario and he's publishing it piece by piece so hit refresh and there may be more. http://blog.triblive...eux-ron-burkle/ Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 This has to be a pretty rare occurrence. Firing the GM and possibly retaining the coach. I have no evidence to back this up but I would have to guess the opposite is more likely to happen. Ya, usually the GM is allowed to go through a few coaches before he is turfed. Happens now and then but the coach is on a very short leash because he isn't the GM's "guy". Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 From what I heard, Burkle wanted Shero gone but Mario wasn't keen on the idea. I think Bylsma should have just gotten the axe to let him pursue whatever, and to clear up any confusion. If he's going to be gone anyhow, why wait? There was a theory out there that maybe this was so that people don't claim that the stars got the coach fired, but who knows. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Also Dejan is typing up an exclusive interview with Ron Burkle and Mario and he's publishing it piece by piece so hit refresh and there may be more. http://blog.triblive...eux-ron-burkle/ I need to push this again as I just finished reading it. Some interesting stuff for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
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