NOFX_PUNK 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 move to canadalol, but seriously, you are right.. but party dried up and the games are still ok there, i cant see them losign allt heir business, tehres still a lot of drunk euros.. just move your rolls to sites like willhill/etc Stay the hell away from my cash-cow! Lol!seriously tho, anyone with half a brain can cash >60% of the MTTs on willhill and they have limits up to $200/$400NL and there's a $100/$200 NL game and two $25/$50 NL and three $10/$20 NL games running at the moment plus many more and it's midday in the UK! Also willhill's cash out time is IMHO best on the net, I can deposit from $5 to $100,000 and get it paid back to my debit account at the click of a button, no clearing period or withdrawal limits. But you aren't welcome! HISS! Lol Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 checky i thought you were gay ~ but anyways cool you have a gfmy point is ~ most people have family living in canada or mexico on this site !! so why not just put your mail address's as that of the family members living outside the USA ~ aslong as your I.P. doesnt get blocked in the USA you should be fine ! Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Stay the hell away from my cash-cow! Lol!seriously tho, anyone with half a brain can cash >60% of the MTTs on willhill and they have limits up to $200/$400NL and there's a $100/$200 NL game and two $25/$50 NL and three $10/$20 NL games running at the moment plus many more and it's midday in the UK! Also willhill's cash out time is IMHO best on the net, I can deposit from $5 to $100,000 and get it paid back to my debit account at the click of a button, no clearing period or withdrawal limits. But you aren't welcome! HISS! Loli used to love ladbrokes Link to post Share on other sites
crocd99 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 this thread kind of depresses me. i know i dont play much anymore right now but i really think that online poker in the US is on the down swing especially with the new law and the stuff with neteller. i just wrote a paper on this topic and i discussed the idea of the games drying up and that is how the new law would really affect the everyday grinder. i didnt really think that would happen but with the current happenings in this area i really think it will happen.perfect examble is what happend to me last night. i got tired of studying last night and decieded to see if i had any money in my stars account. I had $22 so i messed around with that for about 5 mins and lost it with top pair and a oesd. anyway i was like well damn that sucked i want to play some more and get my money back. i went to deposit and i couldnt insta deposit. so guess what happened i just said screw it i dont really need to play.so really in my opinion i think thats were the pros make most of there money. when i fish (not saying i am one but who knows) gets busted he usually has a brief moment of saying hey i want to get my money back and doesnt seem to think about the players being better than him. he is just stuck in the moment of i rule and need to win it back and thus reloads immediately. but now if he cant reload immediately by neteller and has to wait 3 days to play the moment passes. he just looks at the screen and says whats this i cant get my money back right now i have to wait 3-4 businness days.... screw this and then he moves on thus thus ruining the chances of the pros like hoosier prtyp, and others of making money off this guy.just thought i would throw that out there on what i think is the mind set of the average recreational player (who i am right now cause of the bar) thinks. so in conclusion. prtyp yes i do think you should worry because i dont see it getting much better in the next couple of years. i definately think you should consider working on you live game just as a safety precaution.ok i had some more to say but i will end now cause i got to go to work Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Any of you guys heard of this site? http://usppinc.com/Kinda interesting idea. Not sure how it will fly though, and I'm sure you pros would rather have your money working for just you.Also, not to be a naysayer... but what does moving to another country accomplish if the fear is the games drying up because of US players being gone? Aren't they gonna be gone no matter where you live? As long as there are sites accepting US players, I don't see a reason to move. Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba83 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 That does look interesting, however, being a web design/programming major, I must say their site doesn't look very trustworthy. Link to post Share on other sites
fflcdndctx 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If your truly a pro go to Canada, rent a PO box and get a bank account. Then open a neteller account verify it and done. Use the debit card attached to account and make withdrawls where you live, plus gov won't be able to see funds coming into your bank! Link to post Share on other sites
LITTLEPOPPA 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If your truly a pro go to Canada, rent a PO box and get a bank account. Then open a neteller account verify it and done. Use the debit card attached to account and make withdrawls where you live, plus gov won't be able to see funds coming into your bank!thats fine but that is only a temporary fix...as pros have to have a contingency if god forbid stars shuts down to US customers sometime in the next year...as an ip address coming from within the US will then be bocked...if they dont plan now when it happens it will waste previous earning time...i am working on a few plans and will let u know after i have done some due diligence Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 That does look interesting, however, being a web design/programming major, I must say their site doesn't look very trustworthy.Yea, I'm not touching it till I see/hear some reports. The site does look rather crappy. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If your truly a pro go to Canada, rent a PO box and get a bank account. Then open a neteller account verify it and done. Use the debit card attached to account and make withdrawls where you live, plus gov won't be able to see funds coming into your bank!This not a big deal for people that just want to play...but for those making some income out of it, the games drying up is the biggest deal. Poker is booming and people make money because of the fish...but the river getting them into the pond is drying up more and more. It's not that you CAN'T play anymore...the question is whether it's worth it if you're doing it to make money.Anybody into daytrading? How is that? Link to post Share on other sites
telescop 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 games drying up is what were worried about.Moving won't change that. Link to post Share on other sites
kkcountry 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 well, i will quantify my answer by saying although poker is my only source of income, i still live at home, so the only "bills" that are being paid are pizza, beer, and video games.that said, in the past month or so i have moved up to 4/8-5/10 SHLHE (2 tabling at most) and have been beating it for 4bb/100 so far, which is a pretty sexy for me. the recent events really have me worried though, as i think the mid limits will be the first to dry up, as i'll no longer see that donk with $200 in his account sit at a 5/10 table if he's got to jump through hoops to redeposit.my short term plan is to move back down to 2/4, and play as much as i can (4+ tables) until my 21st birfday, and have a 10k bankroll (plus enough spending money to keep my bankroll poker only) and grind ~10/20 at the detroit casinos. i enjoy playing live, so it's really only an issue until i turn 21. i am worried about finding limit cash games, as i loathe NLHE ring games.long term, after school, i will be moving somewhere with a healthy limit hold'em environment. Link to post Share on other sites
telescop 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 thats fine but that is only a temporary fix...as pros have to have a contingency if god forbid stars shuts down to US customers sometime in the next year...as an ip address coming from within the US will then be bocked...if they dont plan now when it happens it will waste previous earning time...i am working on a few plans and will let u know after i have done some due diligenceMy new company www.canadianpokerproxyserver.cawhat do you think is a fair charge for this service? Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Moving won't change that. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerkid 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If you wanna play poker in Asia, learn three-card brag. Wikipedia has a decent entry on the game, but in Asia it gets crazy with all the variations on the game. You need to make the best 3 card hand. But it's dealers choice and sometimes you're dealt only two cards and your third card is automatically a joker. Othertimes your dealt four cards and you can discard one. You can also be dealt five cards and if you have two cards in your hand that add up to a third card in you hand, those three cards together count as a joker.People tend to play "blind" alot which is where they don't look at there cards and therefore they only have to put half as much money in as someone who's seen their cards. You can also only increase the amount of betting by doubling the bet. It's a crazy action game that's ridiculously popular in India.I know I probably gave a terrible explination but I think some online (Asian online) sites are gonna start offerring it. It's very, very profitable. 3-card brag has already taken off in Asia, I'm not sure how long it will take for poker to do so. Link to post Share on other sites
NOFX_PUNK 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If you wanna play poker in Asia, learn three-card brag. Wikipedia has a decent entry on the game, but in Asia it gets crazy with all the variations on the game. You need to make the best 3 card hand. But it's dealers choice and sometimes you're dealt only two cards and your third card is automatically a joker. Othertimes your dealt four cards and you can discard one. You can also be dealt five cards and if you have two cards in your hand that add up to a third card in you hand, those three cards together count as a joker.People tend to play "blind" alot which is where they don't look at there cards and therefore they only have to put half as much money in as someone who's seen their cards. You can also only increase the amount of betting by doubling the bet. It's a crazy action game that's ridiculously popular in India.I know I probably gave a terrible explination but I think some online (Asian online) sites are gonna start offerring it. It's very, very profitable. 3-card brag has already taken off in Asia, I'm not sure how long it will take for poker to do so.I love the game! my local pub's landlord plays with us in 5 quid live games every week! I like to play blind as you only have to call half the bet and if you are happy with your reads on people you can bet blind and they have to call DOUBLE YOUR BET! intrigued? I hope so... Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 but yeah, i think it's looking like canada for me. i miss the weed up there anyway.woohoo, checky's back on team canada! Link to post Share on other sites
pokerkid 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I love the game! my local pub's landlord plays with us in 5 quid live games every week! I like to play blind as you only have to call half the bet and if you are happy with your reads on people you can bet blind and they have to call DOUBLE YOUR BET! intrigued? I hope so...I actually learned how to play in London. And i don't have to tel you how many indians there are there. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Thread of the Day Link to post Share on other sites
sirch1 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I hate to start one of the countless "omg the sky is falling" threads, but I've tried brushing off this whole online poker ban for a while already, and now I'm actually thinking we're screwed.. at least for a year or two..I've been talking to a lot of successful players on AIM and stuff, everyone seems confused, no one knows what their plans are if infact online poker does go to sh*t...This is mainly directed to guys like me, who ONLY play poker and depend on it for their income. I know this sucks for everyone, but its obviously not nearly as big a hit for the recreational player as it is for the online pros . So my question is, What are your plans for the next couple of years if you can't play online poker anymore (by this I include the posibility, that online poker is still somehow playable because of loop holes but the fish stop depositing out of fear and the games dry up) ? I ask this because I am debating on what to do so that I have an actual plan for the worst case senario. Anyway, my plans aren't 100% but I think I have two reasonable options and a few less realistic options.My first two would be to:A) move to Mexico and keep playing online, whatever games/small tourneys I can find until I can grind out a big enough roll to comfortably travel the live tourney circuit and play small events/sats/cash games. I would hate to see the games go dry online, but I think that the games will still be profitable wiith all the euro's etc..B-) Take my roll, get a place in LA and grind out the live cash games every day, I'd probably have to get efficient at LHE again, and maybe mixed games because I don't like the NL games that much in LA...Im OBV not doing anything drastic for the next few months but I do want to have a "quick fix" if anything serious happens soon.C) move to vegas, play in all the games be in the center of the poker world, **** some strippers do soem coke and grind it out Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I wouldn't be worried abut games drying up, esp if ur a tourney pro.What I would reccomend is switching to a more European time schedule. It's 5.30pm now so I'd imagine in the next few hours is when most guys would start playing. So starting your working day at 2am is a possibility ? Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 It's days like this that I thank my parents for pushing me to go to the University of Michigan. Without that, I might have gone pro when I turned 18, and now I'd be shitting myself when I heard this news. My plan right now is to take much of my money off, but still leave enough on to have a working roll for 2/4NL and some MTTs. I was gonna start playing real high volume once school got out in April, but who knows now because of the games possibly drying up.I think we're all sitting around like the Internet CEOs at the end of the 90s. We all kinda realized at once the times of unlimited prosperity and opportunity are over. There are a few of us who can continue in this business and get rich, but most of us will have to go back to what we were doing before poker. I can still grind out live games at Soaring Eagle (And Windsor in 9 months, 29 days), but if online games dry up so does my income. Link to post Share on other sites
Tosh 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 One time offer ill Marry you for 1000$ transfered into my stars account and you can become and dual citizen have a mail address here Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Thread of the Day oh red bucket where have you been,you look so shiny and clean.the last a saw, you were not spinning,just there, still and grinning.the metaphor is now a ghost,a shadow of it's original post.whatever happened to that thread,is the bucket thread still dead? Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 oh red bucket where have you been,you look so shiny and clean.the last a saw, you were not spinning,just there, still and grinning.the metaphor is now a ghost,a shadow of it's original post.whatever happened to that thread,is the bucket thread still dead?don't hi-jack the thread. this is a good discussion.the red bucket is just to mark TOTD....and the red bucket thread is still alive but DNA renamed it "yellow" bucket Link to post Share on other sites
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