thecartel 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 I don't think peyton is that good at madden... I could be wrong though...If it's anything like winning a meaningful NFL game he probably sucks at it. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 You haven't played much heads up have you? Jared is probably the best heads up player on FT at his level. He is also in the top 5 for 6 max $2/$4 if not #1 as well.That's about as cool as being the straightest dude on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I don't think peyton is that good at madden... I could be wrong though...point is I doubt Phil was really playing his 'A' gameor his 'D' game reallyIf it's anything like winning a meaningful NFL game he probably sucks at it.Low Blow, minus one point Link to post Share on other sites
thecartel 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 That's about as cool as being the straightest dude on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.You can make a great living at $2/$4 and $1/$2NL. You don't need to be playing $5/$10+ to be making over $100k a year. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 You can make a great living at $2/$4 and $1/$2NL. You don't need to be playing $5/$10+ to be making over $100k a year.if someone was able to make $100k/yr playing $2/$4.....they wouldnt be playing $2/$4 Link to post Share on other sites
thecartel 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 if someone was able to make $100k/yr playing $2/$4.....they wouldnt be playing $2/$4That's definitely not true. A good player can easily make that much a year. There are also plenty of reasons not to rush into higher limits. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 That's definitely not true. A good player can easily make that much a year. There are also plenty of reasons not to rush into higher limits. because they arent that good and would be eaten alive, maybe?100k at 2/4 would be about 5 buyins a week....if you win 3 a week at 5/10, you would make more money, an extra 50k/yr Link to post Share on other sites
thecartel 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 because they arent that good and would be eaten alive, maybe?100k at 2/4 would be about 5 buyins a week....if you win 3 a week at 5/10, you would make more money, an extra 50k/yrSo you're saying you can win more money at higher stakes games?...hmmm Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I'd bet my half my net worth that no one in the free world made 100k solely from 2/4 NL from January 1, 2006 through December 31, 2006. If they were that skilled, they'd be better served by playing 3/6, 4/8, 5/10, 7.5/15, 10/20 NL.That's not to even get into the fact that 250 buyins over 365 CALENDAR days is pretty well unattainable for the average poker player. That isn't to say that it isn't done, or with any frequency, but it's not likely, and it's the exception.Seriously though, someone post a reliable screen capture of a PT database showing me a 100k profit exclusively from 2/4 NL, that can be thereupon verified, and I'll pay up. Link to post Share on other sites
thecartel 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 I'd bet my half my net worth that no one in the free world made 100k solely from 2/4 NL from January 1, 2006 through December 31, 2006. If they were that skilled, they'd be better served by playing 3/6, 4/8, 5/10, 7.5/15, 10/20 NL.That's not to even get into the fact that 250 buyins over 365 CALENDAR days is pretty well unattainable for the average poker player. That isn't to say that it isn't done, or with any frequency, but it's not likely, and it's the exception.Seriously though, someone post a reliable screen capture of a PT database showing me a 100k profit exclusively from 2/4 NL, that can be thereupon verified, and I'll pay up.I think you'd be surprised how many there were. You can make $30k a year just off rakeback from 2/4. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I think you'd be surprised how many there were. You can make $30k a year just off rakeback from 2/4.I think you'd be surprised how well people understand the value in moving up. 3 BB's at 5/10 > 7.25 BB's 2/4 Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I think you'd be surprised how many there were. You can make $30k a year just off rakeback from 2/4.And just so you realize, my "bet" was intended to mean, "100k in winnings from the 2/4 NLHE tables and not to include rakeback and bonuses." Link to post Share on other sites
thecartel 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 And just so you realize, my "bet" was intended to mean, "100k in winnings from the 2/4 NLHE tables and not to include rakeback and bonuses."How much is half of your net worth? Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 So you're saying you can win more money at higher stakes games?...hmmmshow me a player that can win 100k/yr at $2/$4 but cant win anything at $5/$10and actually 3 buyins a week is less than 5 buyins a week Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 How much is half of your net worth?Including credit card and student loan debt? It's really quite irrelevant; come up with some edited, contrived, photoshopped, screenshot, then we'll start talking figures. As, if I'm wrong, and you're right, you stand to lose, nothing.You speak in hypotheticals about what someone COULD make at 2/4, I know what people who play 2/4 DO make. Before ACertainFCPPosterWhoRecentlyCashedInALargeLiveTournament won some tourneys and began playing MUCH higher than 2/4, he wasn't(or was barely) making 100k a year....and he was playing, and beating, 5/10 NL.Edit; To be clear, I wasn't referencing JC. Link to post Share on other sites
thecartel 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 show me a player that can win 100k/yr at $2/$4 but cant win anything at $5/$10and actually 3 buyins a week is less than 5 buyins a weekObviously you can make the most money by saving up your bankroll and beating the higher games. I'm not even saying a 2/4 player should stay there, just pointing out to the poster who compared being good at 2/4 to being on queer eye that it wouldn't be hard for a person to stay at 2/4 and make 100k, if they chose to. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 You haven't played much heads up have you? Jared is probably the best heads up player on FT at his level. He is also in the top 5 for 6 max $2/$4 if not #1 as well.according to who? You? His butt buddy Link to post Share on other sites
KidPokurr 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Phil Gordon sat down and played my roommate heads up last night. We were able to record the match, it's pretty amusing. http://www.pokerdynasty.net/jds-vs-phil-gordon haha thats some funny stuff. I love the heavy breathing when hec gets 2 outed because he didnt even seem upset but the exaggeration was still amusing. Link to post Share on other sites
socalpoker_j 1 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 From FuturePokerPros:FullTilt's Average-Stakes Top Players Game Descriptions 1 Shoobee 2/4 NL, 3,6 NL 2 KaGame 3/6 NL multitables 3 horryclutch 3/6 NL multitables 4 SweetOldBroad 2/4 NL multitables 5 Ravenous20 3/6 NL multitables 6 Pwnasaurus 3/6 NL multitables 7 Jrab1 1/2 NL multitables 8 rcwhite 2/4 NL multitables 9 FristSux 2/4 NL multitables 10 JD_PROFESSIONAL 2-4 NL multitables Link to post Share on other sites
nyrajf 0 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 "I bluffed him, because I'm a ninja." Link to post Share on other sites
thecartel 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 "I bluffed him, because I'm a ninja."Ninjaing > bluffing Link to post Share on other sites
TheJared 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Hey guys I'm glad you liked the video. There are definately parts where I make mistakes or do not adjust correctly and I would love to talk strategy about them. I made a video moreso because I thought it was interesting to watch and would give a good laugh. I doubt Phil cared too much about playing 400 NL and was probably just blowing off steam/playing alloted time FT requires he plays or some other reason. Still parts are funny and I think thats what counts.Jared Link to post Share on other sites
jmkiser 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 You've got my support and props to your site, btw.I've learned a ton :-) even ordered one of the books you recommended off of amazon that I've never heard of. Always been a live player, but I'm quite interested in the rakeback ideals if you ever get a chance to PM if able.I love PG, but nice videoooooo"delicious" Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 going around and posting this video in every forum (especially ones where you guys are really posters) is just about the weakest thing i can think of.i'll take a hotdog w/ a side of weaksauce. Link to post Share on other sites
spikymarv99 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 You haven't played much heads up have you? Jared is probably the best heads up player on FT at his level. He is also in the top 5 for 6 max $2/$4 if not #1 as well.No he is not. For both heads up or for 6 max. Edit: just saw he posted a video... watching it nowEdit 2: granted I haven't played this low in awhile, I can't imagine him being a top 5 player based on the limited analysis. It's only one video, but based on that, I can't imagine his play beating any regulars. Good luck though Link to post Share on other sites
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