Why Not To Tap The Glass

[NoSup4U 0]

So I'm a big proponent of not tapping the glass, ie telling the donkeys they are donkeys.Here is a good example: 6 handed NL. Effective stacks of all 3 players, 1.5X buyin.I raise to 4X bb from hijack with 87sButton reraises 2.2X my raisesb flat callsI call. Flop 952, 2 spades. Check, check, button bets 3/4 pot. sb calls. While I don't like this call at all, sb is a bit of a wild card and I think might float here with any pair. I shove. Button calls with KK, sb folds. I turn flush.Now, at this point, I already have autopost turned off because I have to respond to a few posts on FCP and 2+2. When I come back from sitting out the chat is filled up with this guy going off about me, sitting out, hitting and running, being a pus.sy, etc. So I say: Is that all for me? And he goes off about how horrible my calling pf was, and how bad my flop play was, etc. Obviously I disagree, but I'm careful not to say anything like: MAYBE IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MIN RAISED ME I MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT FOLDING.So then he says something like: If you stay here, I'm going to take every last cent from you. So I go: Oh really? Thanks for telling me. When the blind comes back around, I'm going to leave then because I don't want you to take it all back. I need your money for my rent this month.And I leave. So don't tap the glass, or the donkeys might just be smart enough to leave.Mark

[Royal27 0]

Classic!

[erac22 0]

I think I'm missing the point of your post. Why would you leave in that situation. You just took down a big pot, have a 3 buy in stack, and a KK minraising dizzonk on tilt. I don't see any glass tapping here, I think you ran away from a really profitable situation. But in any event, I agree that tapping the glass is foolish.erac

[delphi12 0]

I usually find that those criticizing other peoples plays are the donks themselves. Good players know not to criticize and just take advantage of the situation. Usually after I completely bust one of them, I let them know this fact. It usually gets them more angry, but what the hell, I'm usually walking away with their money.

[NoSup4U 0]

I think I'm missing the point of your post. Why would you leave in that situation. You just took down a big pot, have a 3 buy in stack, and a KK minraising dizzonk on tilt. I don't see any glass tapping here, I think you ran away from a really profitable situation. But in any event, I agree that tapping the glass is foolish.erac

I was done with my session in a bit anyway. I just thought it would be funny. I for sure left a good situation, but thats ok, he's there all the time :)My post is 1/3 brag, 1/3 for the humor, and 1/3 don't tap the glass reminder. :)Mark

[erac22 0]

I was done with my session in a bit anyway. I just thought it would be funny. I for sure left a good situation, but thats ok, he's there all the time :)My post is 1/3 brag, 1/3 for the humor, and 1/3 don't tap the glass reminder. :)Mark

Gotcha, nhnhnhnhnh!

[Dogpatch 2]

I think I'm missing the point of your post. Why would you leave in that situation. You just took down a big pot, have a 3 buy in stack, and a KK minraising dizzonk on tilt. I don't see any glass tapping here, I think you ran away from a really profitable situation. But in any event, I agree that tapping the glass is foolish.erac

The other guy tapped the glass on Mark. Mark was saying he was preceived as a donk and the other guy should have kept his mouth shut and Mark would've stayed at the table. Unless I'm way off.....Edit: Damn you guys are fast.

[donkeypunch 0]

erac22's got a point. Who's tapping who's glass? I thought your play was fine. Pre-flop, you're getting 5:1. Post-flop you're close enough to 50:50 with the button to shove.Was he wrong in tapping your glass, getting you to leave? Or were you right in not tapping his by telling him he was stupid to let you in cheap? You really could've made a lot more money off this guy. :)Cheers,DP

[NoSup4U 0]

Was he wrong in tapping your glass, getting you to leave? Or were you right in not tapping his by telling him he was stupid to let you in cheap? You really could've made a lot more money off this guy. :)Cheers,DP

yeah I was saying he was wrong to tap my glass. But mostly just bragging cause I love stacking people and having them go ballistic on me.Ok updated: 1/2 brag, 1/4 humor, 1/4 don't tap glass reminder.Mark

[MyPlayIsRAB 0]

yeah I was saying he was wrong to tap my glass. But mostly just bragging cause I love stacking people and having them go ballistic on me.Ok updated: 1/2 brag, 1/4 humor, 1/4 don't tap glass reminder.Mark

BBV forum is over there ----->nh by the way, its donkeys like you that cost me my buyin everyday (1/2 sw, 1/2 anger!)

[crocd99 0]

So I'm a big proponent of not tapping the glass, ie telling the donkeys they are donkeys.Here is a good example: 6 handed NL. Effective stacks of all 3 players, 1.5X buyin.I raise to 4X bb from hijack with 87sButton reraises 2.2X my raisesb flat calls

was i the only one that thought the hijack in this game is really utg+1

[IQCrash 1]

was i the only one that thought the hijack in this game is really utg+1

yes

[TB17 0]

If you lost the pot, would that mean you would kill yourself and leave me your wife?

[crocd99 0]

yes

thought so..... i am a donk

[TB17 0]

BBV forum is over there ----->nh by the way, its donkeys like you that cost me my buyin everyday (1/2 sw, 1/2 anger!)

You should be the LAST person to be saying this.

[NoSup4U 0]

was i the only one that thought the hijack in this game is really utg+1

It is, I was hijack/utg+1.Mark

[NoSup4U 0]

If you lost the pot, would that mean you would kill yourself and leave me your wife?

If I ever kill myself, I'll make sure you're in my will as the person who gets my wife. She has more pairs of Sevens than I do just fyi, so I warn you, she's expensive.... :)Mark

[Hatchet 0]

Hey uhh .. your mom called.. she wants you home by 10:00.

[NoSup4U 0]

Hey uhh .. your mom called.. she wants you home by 10:00.

Who, me? My curfew is 9:15.Mark

[theone 0]

my heart is prettier and the original one iqcrash...

[army_vet8857 0]

So I'm a big proponent of not tapping the glass, ie telling the donkeys they are donkeys.Here is a good example: 6 handed NL. Effective stacks of all 3 players, 1.5X buyin.I raise to 4X bb from hijack with 87sButton reraises 2.2X my raisesb flat callsI call. Flop 952, 2 spades. Check, check, button bets 3/4 pot. sb calls. While I don't like this call at all, sb is a bit of a wild card and I think might float here with any pair. I shove. Button calls with KK, sb folds. I turn flush.Now, at this point, I already have autopost turned off because I have to respond to a few posts on FCP and 2+2. When I come back from sitting out the chat is filled up with this guy going off about me, sitting out, hitting and running, being a pus.sy, etc. So I say: Is that all for me? And he goes off about how horrible my calling pf was, and how bad my flop play was, etc. Obviously I disagree, but I'm careful not to say anything like: MAYBE IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MIN RAISED ME I MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT FOLDING.So then he says something like: If you stay here, I'm going to take every last cent from you. So I go: Oh really? Thanks for telling me. When the blind comes back around, I'm going to leave then because I don't want you to take it all back. I need your money for my rent this month.And I leave. So don't tap the glass, or the donkeys might just be smart enough to leave.Mark

Classic!

[jjburdick 0]

Sort of along the same lines but... have you ever been in a game and "tapped the glass" because you just felt bad for the person? I agree that if you are at a table and someone is making horrible plays left and right, just shut up, suck up the bad beats and out draws and slowly take all of his money but a funny thing happened while i was in the casino a few weeks back. I was playing a 5-10nl game and this guy sat in. He was obviously an inexperienced player (could tell by the way he stacked his chips and peaked at his cards and some other easy tells) and in about an hour the guy lost about $3500. The last time the guy got stacked and went to reach in his pocket for more cash one of the players said, "Dude, don't even bother. You shouldn't be at this table. Go to the cage and sit in the 1-2nl or 2-4 limit game. You are not ready to be playing at this level yet." After the guy left and went to the other table the person who told him to leave apologized to the table and said, "I'm sorry guys but I just felt bad for the kid." We all laughed and went on playing but this post reminded me of it.

[TheCinciKid 0]

Sort of along the same lines but... have you ever been in a game and "tapped the glass" because you just felt bad for the person? I agree that if you are at a table and someone is making horrible plays left and right, just shut up, suck up the bad beats and out draws and slowly take all of his money but a funny thing happened while i was in the casino a few weeks back. I was playing a 5-10nl game and this guy sat in. He was obviously an inexperienced player (could tell by the way he stacked his chips and peaked at his cards and some other easy tells) and in about an hour the guy lost about $3500. The last time the guy got stacked and went to reach in his pocket for more cash one of the players said, "Dude, don't even bother. You shouldn't be at this table. Go to the cage and sit in the 1-2nl or 2-4 limit game. You are not ready to be playing at this level yet." After the guy left and went to the other table the person who told him to leave apologized to the table and said, "I'm sorry guys but I just felt bad for the kid." We all laughed and went on playing but this post reminded me of it.

Wow, that's horrible. Feeling bad for the kid has absolutely no place in poker. How he spends his money is his business, if he wants to spew it off in a game he's got no business in, I'd let him do it all day and try to get as much of it as I can. The rest of the table should have gotten really pissed at the guy who told him to quit.

[David_Nicoson 1]

Sort of along the same lines but... have you ever been in a game and "tapped the glass" because you just felt bad for the person? I agree that if you are at a table and someone is making horrible plays left and right, just shut up, suck up the bad beats and out draws and slowly take all of his money but a funny thing happened while i was in the casino a few weeks back. I was playing a 5-10nl game and this guy sat in. He was obviously an inexperienced player (could tell by the way he stacked his chips and peaked at his cards and some other easy tells) and in about an hour the guy lost about $3500. The last time the guy got stacked and went to reach in his pocket for more cash one of the players said, "Dude, don't even bother. You shouldn't be at this table. Go to the cage and sit in the 1-2nl or 2-4 limit game. You are not ready to be playing at this level yet." After the guy left and went to the other table the person who told him to leave apologized to the table and said, "I'm sorry guys but I just felt bad for the kid." We all laughed and went on playing but this post reminded me of it.

I would consider advising even a casual friend not to play above his finances, but I wouldn't tell a guy he sucked.

[stealfromblind 0]

I think I'm missing the point of your post. Why would you leave in that situation. You just took down a big pot, have a 3 buy in stack, and a KK minraising dizzonk on tilt. I don't see any glass tapping here, I think you ran away from a really profitable situation. But in any event, I agree that tapping the glass is foolish.erac

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