Weird Spot With Ak

[jjdylan 0]

Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $23.25Hero: $26.50CO: $117.90Button: $25.50SB: $24.75BB: $24.40Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K A UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises to $5, BB folds, Hero calls, CO calls.Flop: Q T 8 ($15.25, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.Turn: 7 ($15.25, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.River: A ($15.25, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.Results:Final pot: $15.25I was planning on folding to any bet before the river. Is it even worth it to make a play at the pot on the flop or turn?I was thinking about betting the river, but i think QQ,TT, AQ are real possibilities for either player....and AT or KJ could certianly be in there for the CO. I dunno, i still think i should bet this river, and fold to a raise?? What would be a good bet here? 1/2pot? 3/4pot?

[pkr_emprr 0]

I like betting the river for around a 1/2 pot size.I also don't think its a bad idea to bet the turn, the preflop aggressor showed no more strength on the flop and the turn, and the button passed up betting in position on the flop. This is where I continuation bet a fair amount of the time when sandwiched between two players on the turn and they both passed the flop.If you bet the river and they raise, then its a judgement call/fold based on the villian, in most situations I would think its a bet/ fold line; there are plenty of worse hands that can and will call.

[Shimmering Wang 1]

I'm usually betting this turn with two overs and a gutshot. You'd like to fold out underpairs, jacks, and another AK.Wang

[David_Nicoson 1]

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K A UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises to $5, BB folds, Hero calls,

All the stars have to come into alignment for us to make money after flat calling the re-raise.

• If the SB has a big ace, we're going to miss the flop a lot. We'll have to make a tough call if we're going to call with AK unimproved here.
• If the SB has a smaller pair, we probably get just one bet out of him if he c-bets into a board with an ace or king.
• If he has aces or kings and we hit, we're going to lose some more money.

I don't like to flat call with AK for these reasons. I'd rather just make my decision straight away. If I think AK if probably a coin flip hand, I'm going to re-raise. If not, just fold it.Disclaimer: I don't play 6-max.

[No_Neck 0]

I play it the same.

[No_Neck 0]

All the stars have to come into alignment for us to make money after flat calling the re-raise.

• If the SB has a big ace, we're going to miss the flop a lot. We'll have to make a tough call if we're going to call with AK unimproved here.
• If the SB has a smaller pair, we probably get just one bet out of him if he c-bets into a board with an ace or king.
• If he has aces or kings and we hit, we're going to lose some more money.

I don't like to flat call with AK for these reasons. I'd rather just make my decision straight away. If I think AK if probably a coin flip hand, I'm going to re-raise. If not, just fold it.Disclaimer: I don't play 6-max.

why would you push? you are only going to get called by a hand that beats you. Or at least you are going to get called more often by Aces or Kings than AQ-AT.

[David_Nicoson 1]

why would you push? you are only going to get called by a hand that beats you. Or at least you are going to get called more often by Aces or Kings than AQ-AT.

I agree that we're a dog to his range if he calls. It's a semi-bluff. We'd like to make JJ or QQ fold.

[petersun 0]

For me, this is pretty read dependent on the villians. If they tend to be TAGs or rocks with a tendancy to slow play, I prefer to just see a showdown. However, if I sense they are checking around because of weakness, I might stab 1/2 a pot and fold to strength. In 6-max play, the pre-flop reraiser can have anything from a premium hand: JJ+, AK, AQ (TAG) to premium plus pairs: 66+, AJ+, KQ (sLAG) to premium plus playable: suited connectors, 22+, QJ+, KJ+, AT+ (xLAG). Without reads, I would lean toward assuming premium + pairs which gives us a slightly wider range. I think if you had anytime at this table, you should be able to notice all the players who would check down (incorrectly) a strong but not monster hand like TT or AQ or even QQ. If the villian fits that profile, then it's definitely a check on the river. Trips should be betting at least this turn if not the flop, and AQ's gotta bet this flop to see where they are unless they're ultra passive.Because of your bad position, I don't mind a push preflop or a preflop fold. The call is not ideal especially with someone to act behind you (who has a huge stack).

[No_Neck 0]

I agree that we're a dog to his range if he calls. It's a semi-bluff. We'd like to make JJ or QQ fold.

gotcha.

[disctiger85 0]

I agree that we're a dog to his range if he calls. It's a semi-bluff. We'd like to make JJ or QQ fold.

6-handed I don't think any opponent is throwing away JJ or QQ...I'd even venture to say TT might even call. But then again, I play on Bodog so maybe my opinion is a bit skewed.

[caribstv 0]

Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $23.25Hero: $26.50CO: $117.90Button: $25.50SB: $24.75BB: $24.40Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K A UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises to $5, BB folds, Hero calls, CO calls.Flop: Q T 8 ($15.25, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.Turn: 7 ($15.25, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.River: A ($15.25, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.Results:Final pot: $15.25I was planning on folding to any bet before the river. Is it even worth it to make a play at the pot on the flop or turn?I was thinking about betting the river, but i think QQ,TT, AQ are real possibilities for either player....and AT or KJ could certianly be in there for the CO. I dunno, i still think i should bet this river, and fold to a raise?? What would be a good bet here? 1/2pot? 3/4pot?

thats funny.. why call the $5 raise? did he have QQ??Since everyone is checking why not Bet the turn?? say $2.50? kinda blocking but still leaves an escape hatch.....

[No_Neck 0]

thats funny.. why call the $5 raise? did he have QQ??Since everyone is checking why not Bet the turn?? say $2.50? kinda blocking but still leaves an escape hatch.....

Betting $2.50 into a $15.00 pot?

[caribstv 0]

Betting $2.50 into a $15.00 pot?

yeah... seems lame but yeah

[nomadicpro 0]

As played, I value bet the river. I expect them to fold, I just don't want to show my hand. The pre-flop raiser has already checked three times, don't worry about him having you beat. The CO seems a little donkish so you might get called by a weaker hand. I just wouldn't want to check 3 times and show down big slick (Maybe its the LAG in me). Bet and fold to a raise on the river. I might have pushed pre-flop but otherwise well played, until the river.