kkcountry 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I went to Windsor for the first time in 3 weeks and much to my surprise, instead of charging six bucks (!!!) per half hour to sit at the 100max table, they were charging 10% max up to $5 on each pot. So, while I was folding the garbage I saw for the first two hours (I think my VPIP for those 50 hands or so was 0%) Instead of donating 24 dollars to the rake, I was only down my blinds. I'm so pumped, I may have to start going over there on a weekly basis. Link to post Share on other sites
Tiltinagain 973 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 That's awesome!!I really feel for those of you paying an hourly/half hour rate.That's brutual.$5 rake is still kinda high compared to the $3 I pay but it beats the hell out of $12 an hour basically. Link to post Share on other sites
grannysmith 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Wow! such great news, going up there this monday hopefully,i'm assuming this is for the 2/5 as well? Link to post Share on other sites
kkcountry 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Wow! such great news, going up there this monday hopefully,i'm assuming this is for the 2/5 as well?no, 2/5 was still $7/half hour, which i thought was interesting Link to post Share on other sites
alanstats 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 "To (My Name),You are hereby informed that you have been permanently trespassed from the Casino Windsor LP, and all associated properties. Failure to comply will result in immediate legal action" Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Wow.That is GREAT news. I was just talking with some guys during a game Wednesday night and we were complaining about the hourly rate payments at Greektown. Link to post Share on other sites
JBradburn6 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 "To (My Name),You are hereby informed that you have been permanently trespassed from the Casino Windsor LP, and all associated properties. Failure to comply will result in immediate legal action"I've been kicked out of there before but that's just mean. Link to post Share on other sites
showstopper24 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 no, 2/5 was still $7/half hour, which i thought was interestingthats weird Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Hopefully Greektown takes the hint and does the same. If not, looks like I'll be crossing the bridge to play instead of Greektown from now on. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 the no session fee thing is sweet. I went there two nights ago and played 1/2 NL, and usually, after not playing a hand for 2 hours, would be down $25-30 from session fees and blinds and a couple limp in's and calls of raises, not hitting flops.... but found myself even!I ended up +$60 or so, not a bad night. Man, some of those players are simply horrible. I played 2 hands, essentially. Link to post Share on other sites
DrNick 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 the no session fee thing is sweet. I went there two nights ago and played 1/2 NL, and usually, after not playing a hand for 2 hours, would be down $25-30 from session fees and blinds and a couple limp in's and calls of raises, not hitting flops.... but found myself even!I ended up +$60 or so, not a bad night. Man, some of those players are simply horrible. I played 2 hands, essentially.still prefer Seneca Niagara on the US side./Canadian//doesn't care which country, just wants a good card room Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Anyone got any plans on Dec 9th? (Saturday) I'm free that day, we should all hit up Windsor and play some 1/2 and maybe some of the daily tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites
showstopper24 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Anyone got any plans on Dec 9th? (Saturday) I'm free that day, we should all hit up Windsor and play some 1/2 and maybe some of the daily tournaments.i can't get up there but have fun Link to post Share on other sites
kkcountry 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Anyone got any plans on Dec 9th? (Saturday) I'm free that day, we should all hit up Windsor and play some 1/2 and maybe some of the daily tournaments.i might be there, but there's no tourneys on saturday that i'm aware of, beside sit'n'go's with a godawful structure (which didn't happen today, they were absolutely understaffed, they must have forgot it was an american holiday weekend)the 500 dollar monthly was today, and while there were 3 regulars with game at the final table, the rest of the guys were horrible. I think they ended up chopping with 4 left for 7k, 7k, 7k, and 5k. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 The sngs they have there are horrible, $50+5 or $100+10 buyins, payouts 60/30/10 (that's right, your money back without rake)blinds 25/50 15 minute levels1500 starting chips.It's a crapshoot. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 no, 2/5 was still $7/half hour, which i thought was interestingCasino windsor makes the stupidest decisions, they should ditch the rake for all the tables. There rakes are ridiculous, why should we be charged more on the 2max and the 5 max? They rob u its ridiculous. It can be looked as a good or a bad thing, if your on the tighter side the rake is better, if you aggressive betting a lot of pots the fee is better off for u Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Umm...30 hands/ hour. 10 players per table, you should win, on average 3 hands/hour, rake $5/pot = $15.1 hour of $6 session fees/30 mins = $12$12 < $15.Although it's probably close when you factor in that you'll probably win less than 1/10 by playing tighter, and that some pots won't be max rake.My point is that it's pretty well the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites
kkcountry 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Umm...30 hands/ hour. 10 players per table, you should win, on average 3 hands/hour, rake $5/pot = $15.1 hour of $6 session fees/30 mins = $12$12 < $15.Although it's probably close when you factor in that you'll probably win less than 1/10 by playing tighter, and that some pots won't be max rake.My point is that it's pretty well the same thing.Show me a table (full of people who have no clue what they're doing at a poker table (including the dealer more often than not )) in a casino that gets in 30 hands in an hour.Also, the standard PF raise in these games is $12-$15 so that really tightens up your starting requirements, especially at the start where you're confined to your $100 max buyin. You can't even play PPs for proper set value until you get a little deeper stacked. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Show me a table (full of people who have no clue what they're doing at a poker table (including the dealer more often than not )) in a casino that gets in 30 hands in an hour.Also, the standard PF raise in these games is $12-$15 so that really tightens up your starting requirements, especially at the start where you're confined to your $100 max buyin. You can't even play PPs for proper set value until you get a little deeper stacked.So yeah... didn't notice it was NL... Never played NL live, so I don't know the hands/hour number. I was talking LHE, and even then, you are right, more like 25-30. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Seriously....seat charge is horrendous for tighter players. I hadn't experienced one until I played at Caesars Indiana when I went down there for the WSOP Circuit. I wasn't getting cards and I wasn't playing many hands, but it still cost my like $30 to play 2.5 hours. I think I may have won 2 pots the entire time I was there (I'm only remembering one right now, but I'll give myself the benefit of one more). Even if you figure a standard rake up to $5 and both pots at max rake, I only pay the casino $10 to sit there and lose as opposed to $30. Now, if you're on a rush and playing a lot of hands and building a big stack, it's closer, but in general if you're gonna tend to play fairly tight rake is wayyyy better than seat charge AINEC. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 ok, I'll trust Cinci. Link to post Share on other sites
stopsayingfrankly 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 errr... is rake any better than that time charge? doesnt look like it to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 errr... is rake any better than that time charge? doesnt look like it to me.Then your retarded. Link to post Share on other sites
stopsayingfrankly 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Then your retarded.why? Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 why?Go play Greektown where you get charged $6 every half-hr and try telling me that it's just the same as raking the pot. It's god-awful and I'm happy to hear that Windsor has gotten rid of it. Link to post Share on other sites
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