Critiquing Dn's Play

[Muck, You Suckers! 0]

After the posts here after Foxwoods, I couldn't believe the amount of BS that was posted. Some are so full of of sh## that they pretend to know better than DN how to play pocket aces. If your so good that you can advise DN then why weren't you there winning that tournament? I don't like DN all that well as a fan, but I have great respect for the man. He's the real deal. I would like to be as good a poker player as him someday, but most likely never will come close.I can't crtique any hand DN plays, all I can do is learn from it. I wasn't sitting in his seat and seeing what he was seeing, nor was the pressure on me. That's the beauty of poker, every situation is different and your constantly striving for that perfect game. Sometimes it falls apart and goes astray. He done his best and that's good enough for him and that's all that matters. Those who can't do are the first ones to citicize.

[showstopper24 0]

After the posts here after Foxwoods, I couldn't believe the amount of BS that was posted. Some are so full of of sh## that they pretend to know better than DN how to play pocket aces. If your so good that you can advise DN then why weren't you there winning that tournament? I don't like DN all that well as a fan, but I have great respect for the man. He's the real deal. I would like to be as good a poker player as him someday, but most likely never will come close.I can't crtique any hand DN plays, all I can do is learn from it. I wasn't sitting in his seat and seeing what he was seeing, nor was the pressure on me. That's the beauty of poker, every situation is different and your constantly striving for that perfect game. Sometimes it falls apart and goes astray. He done his best and that's good enough for him and that's all that matters. Those who can't do are the first ones to citisize.

because i don't have a big bankrolljk-i agree with most of the stuff you said but it is in a forum where people should be able to criticize

[Muck, You Suckers! 0]

They are able to. But, sometimes when you criticize beyond your capacity you just look like a fool. Once that happens you lose credibilty. To say Hemingway should have wrote in another style, or that Led Zeppelin should have worked more on their image is foolish. If you are stupid enough to criticize success you are totally blind.

[Balloon guy 158]

I agree, people that want to say they woudl have played it different, no problem. People tat say DN was flat out wrong 100% are speaking way above their pay scale.Kinda like when people criticize Rush Limbaugh, like him or not he's the most successful radio person ever.

[Brunswick14 0]

I like how people criticize Daniel's play after they know that his aces got busted, if he would've doubled up that hand people would have said that play was sheer geneous. IMHO

[Loismustdie 0]

I agree, people that want to say they woudl have played it different, no problem. People tat say DN was flat out wrong 100% are speaking way above their pay scale.Kinda like when people criticize Rush Limbaugh, like him or not he's the most successful radio person ever.

I limp aces all the time. I also call off all of my chips with A-3,so wtf do I know?

[offset 0]

I agree, people that want to say they woudl have played it different, no problem. People tat say DN was flat out wrong 100% are speaking way above their pay scale.Kinda like when people criticize Rush Limbaugh, like him or not he's the most successful radio person ever.

That analogy kind of threw me off.

[Tigerlite 0]

I like how people criticize Daniel's play after they know that his aces got busted, if he would've doubled up that hand people would have said that play was sheer geneous. IMHO

I posted saying that I would have played the hand differently. I was not critical of the way DN played it; there's logic to that play. My main reason for playing aces aggressively, especially after there has been an aggressive raise as in the actual hand, is that I want to test the strength of my opponent's hand so that I get some information. Most of the time, if I make an aggressive raise with AA, my opponent will fold, which would have been the case on this hand. If my opponent calls my raise, I would be concerned that he has a very strong hand, and can make a lay down on the flop if need be. DN played it differently and got unlucky. It was unfortunate, but he could have avoided that had he reraised aggressively.

[nutzbuster 7]

Obv. we all know by now that there are "golden rules" of how to play certain hands ... and then there is reality. The game is so situational that not all "correct play" is always correct in every situation. All better players knows this, so the criticism of a proven world class player like Daniel is completely laughable at best.That said I do think there is a positive aspect to the criticizm as it prompts in depth discussion, and I think it helps more than it hurts, especially to the newer players.

[aaronj 0]

i dont post a whole lot about poker related articles just because of this reason..every1 has their own way of playing cards i do however throw in my $.02 on most of the golfing threads..just like golf there is more than 1 way to play aces...unfort. DN lost and thats it..done for..history...who is to say DN re- raises and the guy moves all in DN calls and exits by going all in pre flop with aces OMG!!! all in pre flop w/ aces DN your an idiot (kidding) last time i check this guy makes more money in 1 year then ummm...all of us? and he is a PRO at what he doesso lets him play cards untill one of you can start a protege tourney that headlines ur name

[Brunswick14 0]

I posted saying that I would have played the hand differently. I was not critical of the way DN played it; there's logic to that play. My main reason for playing aces aggressively, especially after there has been an aggressive raise as in the actual hand, is that I want to test the strength of my opponent's hand so that I get some information. Most of the time, if I make an aggressive raise with AA, my opponent will fold, which would have been the case on this hand. If my opponent calls my raise, I would be concerned that he has a very strong hand, and can make a lay down on the flop if need be. DN played it differently and got unlucky. It was unfortunate, but he could have avoided that had he reraised aggressively.

I concur

[DonkSlayer 1]

After the posts here after Foxwoods, I couldn't believe the amount of BS that was posted. Some are so full of of sh## that they pretend to know better than DN how to play pocket aces. If your so good that you can advise DN then why weren't you there winning that tournament? I don't like DN all that well as a fan, but I have great respect for the man. He's the real deal. I would like to be as good a poker player as him someday, but most likely never will come close.

What's on the other end of that little lump in your cheek? Not that you're not right on all counts...or that there's anything wrong with that..

[Muck, You Suckers! 0]

What's on the other end of that little lump in your cheek? Not that you're not right on all counts...or that there's anything wrong with that..

Just trying to get some BS started with me?

[EurekaKid 0]

This issue has been annoying me for sometime, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, what annoys me is the people saying that Daniel is over the hill and past it. Who the hell are they? Only a handful of players in the world come close to rivaling the play that Daniel is capable of producing... let alone a bunch of poker tryhards (myself included) posting opinions on this forum. I guess the reality is that when someone is down, people love to sink the boot in.

[showstopper24 0]

This issue has been annoying me for sometime, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, what annoys me is the people saying that Daniel is over the hill and past it. Who the hell are they? Only a handful of players in the world come close to rivaling the play that Daniel is capable of producing... let alone a bunch of poker tryhards (myself included) posting opinions on this forum. I guess the reality is that when someone is down, people love to sink the boot in.

i agree with this post-everyone should be able to express their opinion. i think that most people are wrong when saying that Daniel is 'over the hill and past it' but that is just my opinion

[Lynbrook 0]

I haven't read any of the critisims, but I'm sure Negreanu would admit he makes plenty of mistakes. He plays so many pots he's bound to make more mistakes than many pros. But it's like Brunson said in Super System...he wins so many pots he's able to play from behind and still make lots of money. And I think I read somewhere that Negreanu said because he used to speak poker all the time with his friends, he became a much better player. So not critiquing his play is just stupid. It's like a football coach, yes they know more, but sometimes the fan is right and not the coach. As for this particular hand...I don't know the blind structures or his opponent but I think if Negreanu raises he wins only a small pot. With him being a very wealthy man, there's no reason for him to just try and go up the pay scale, he wants to win.I think the time he lost to Dutch Boyd with Aces at the 6-handed event was the time he misplayed them.

[Muck, You Suckers! 0]

I haven't read any of the critisims, but I'm sure Negreanu would admit he makes plenty of mistakes. He plays so many pots he's bound to make more mistakes than many pros. But it's like Brunson said in Super System...he wins so many pots he's able to play from behind and still make lots of money. And I think I read somewhere that Negreanu said because he used to speak poker all the time with his friends, he became a much better player. So not critiquing his play is just stupid. It's like a football coach, yes they know more, but sometimes the fan is right and not the coach. As for this particular hand...I don't know the blind structures or his opponent but I think if Negreanu raises he wins only a small pot. With him being a very wealthy man, there's no reason for him to just try and go up the pay scale, he wants to win.I think the time he lost to Dutch Boyd with Aces at the 6-handed event was the time he misplayed them.

I never said DN doesn't make mistakes. What I am saying is he doesn't need me or you pointing each and everyone out to him, or explaining them to him. He already knows. The minute he sees the chips going to his opponent he knows. Am more than sure that if wasn't for security, when Tiger Woods missed a putt there would be some idiot run out on the green to explain how he would have done it on his Xbox.

[Lynbrook 0]

I never said DN doesn't make mistakes. What I am saying is he doesn't need me or you pointing each and everyone out to him, or explaining them to him. He already knows. The minute he sees the chips going to his opponent he knows. Am more than sure that if wasn't for security, when Tiger Woods missed a putt there would be some idiot run out on the green to explain how he would have done it on his Xbox.

You're right...he doesn't need us pointing out his mistakes. However this forum isn't strictly for him either. It's for me, and you and anyone else who wants to critique his or any other players play. I know going on multiple forums has helped me become a better player. As for Tiger, I told him he was gripping the shaft too tightly, and he loosened up. Since then he's won 4 of the last 7 majors!