TylerDurden82 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Sorry this is kind of long but I want to get the whole story out there to get a better picture of what I'm asking. So I was at a local casino a few weeks ago for my bday. Decided to play a little 1/2 NL. Well I ended up with a question I would like to ask some of you guys. I had been at the table for a while and made a little profit just trying to play some solid poker. When this hand comes across, I have 7 6 suited and call this guys raise from early pos. Flop comes 2 8 6 two clubs the guy checks and I bet hoping to take it right there the guy takes a long pause and then decide to C/R for about 15 more. I get the feeling he is trying to push me off the pot maybe with a flush draw or something like AK. So I decide to call and turn comes 3h. He immediately goes all in for his last 22. I'm guessing we all get this feeling or maybe it's just me, but I feel that if I call I'm ahead but that if I do the river will be a bad card for me. I think about how his play seem so defensive at the table and go with my gut feeling and call. He flips over AJ unsuited. I am happy and worried at the same time as the river is still to come, which turns out to be a J and me losing the hand. So this is where the problem starts. I was so proud of myself for whatever reason in getting the right feel on this guy but still a little disappointed I didn't get rewarded. So I let my emotion out just a little be and saying like Oh man and smack my hand on the table. I quickly gain my composer and say nice hand. I think that its and get ready for the next hand when he says geez you don't mind splashing around a bit. I say how I felt he was weak and went with it. He mentions how he raise from early pos. and hadn't played many hands. To which I mention his long pause after the flop. He then says whatever guy you know you were just interested in a degrading tone. This just about sets me off, I tell him not to judge my play there basically. At which point I'm about to drop it, when the floor comes by and without even seeing what the disagreement was about pretty much made it clear I should go. I guess it was because at that point I had stood back up. Was I out of line I really don't feel so, I wanted to try to explain what happened so I could stay since I was really just there to have fun. But all they said was go. Plus the other guy got to stay which made it even worse. I just feel that floor man didn't want to listen and just get this disagreement out of his casino. Sorry again for the length. Link to post Share on other sites
FourFlusher 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Never leave a casino after being tossed without first punching the floor man in the throat, then turning the table over.This makes them think about their actions. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 As a general rule, you should know it is highly likely that there will be a direct correlation between your decision to use paragraphs and the number of helpful responses you receive. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Huh? Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Never leave a casino after being tossed without first punching the floor man in the throat, then turning the table over.This makes them think about their actions.Somebody has to be held accountable! Link to post Share on other sites
SSPadawon4 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 wat casino, because that is a joke that floorman and the other player were complete asses, I would of refused to leave or report the floor man to the pit boss. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Sorry this is kind of long but I want to get the whole story out there to get a better picture of what I'm asking. So I was at a local casino a few weeks ago for my bday. Decided to play a little 1/2 NL. Well I ended up with a question I would like to ask some of you guys. I had been at the table for a while and made a little profit just trying to play some solid poker. When this hand comes across, I have 7 6 suited and call this guys raise from early pos. Flop comes 2 8 6 two clubs the guy checks and I bet hoping to take it right there the guy takes a long pause and then decide to C/R for about 15 more. I get the feeling he is trying to push me off the pot maybe with a flush draw or something like AK. So I decide to call and turn comes 3h. He immediately goes all in for his last 22. I'm guessing we all get this feeling or maybe it's just me, but I feel that if I call I'm ahead but that if I do the river will be a bad card for me. I think about how his play seem so defensive at the table and go with my gut feeling and call. He flips over AJ unsuited. I am happy and worried at the same time as the river is still to come, which turns out to be a J and me losing the hand. So this is where the problem starts. I was so proud of myself for whatever reason in getting the right feel on this guy but still a little disappointed I didn't get rewarded. So I let my emotion out just a little be and saying like Oh man and smack my hand on the table. I quickly gain my composer and say nice hand. I think that its and get ready for the next hand when he says geez you don't mind splashing around a bit. I say how I felt he was weak and went with it. He mentions how he raise from early pos. and hadn't played many hands. To which I mention his long pause after the flop. He then says whatever guy you know you were just interested in a degrading tone. This just about sets me off, I tell him not to judge my play there basically. At which point I'm about to drop it, when the floor comes by and without even seeing what the disagreement was about pretty much made it clear I should go. I guess it was because at that point I had stood back up. Was I out of line I really don't feel so, I wanted to try to explain what happened so I could stay since I was really just there to have fun. But all they said was go. Plus the other guy got to stay which made it even worse. I just feel that floor man didn't want to listen and just get this disagreement out of his casino. Sorry again for the length.I'd like to buy a paragraph break, Alex.It's tough to take a lecture from a guy that just sucked out on you. I appreciate your frustration. I'd skip the nice hand comment, because it's easy for sarcasm to sneak into your voice. Unless your opponent is really stupid (and this guy might be), he's going to realize that he doesn't deserve congradulations.I think it's crucial to understand exactly what you said. I'm guessing there was some strong language that you may not even remember. Link to post Share on other sites
GambleToWin 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I don't think you deserved to be kicked out, but you probably should've just let it go w/o saying anything. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 As a general rule, you should know it is highly likely that there will be a direct correlation between your decision to use paragraphs and the number of helpful responses you receive. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 you are right, there is Etiquettewhen you are posting a story on a forum it is always proper etiquette to use paragraphs Link to post Share on other sites
_Great_Dane_ 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I probably would have put him on the bluff as well, based on the way I imagined the villain quickly going all in on the turn. If he had told me I made a bad call, I would have said that I made a great call and that he got lucky. If he had kept it going, I would have held up my hand and said, "you know; you're right. I made a bad call. Nice hand."It's tough to do, sometimes, but it's important to not tap on the aquarium. Supposedly, you want to keep him happy, keep him in the game, and win your money back before long.http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/15747 Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 They have this awesome addition to modern keyboards called the "enter key". Link to post Share on other sites
zedd2005 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 indeed Link to post Share on other sites
Shakey90 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Never leave a casino after being tossed without first punching the floor man in the throat, then turning the table over.This makes them think about their actions.best... post....ever Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 best... post....evermost...uneducated...opinion...ever Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 A. Were you drinking? Because somethimes the perception of the floorman is to side with the nondrinking personB. Were you drunk?I don't see where you crossed any line. A punch in the throat probably wasn't warranted in this situation either. Just know that you got it in good. Link to post Share on other sites
rocksquid 50 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 You might not be ready for the live game yet if you're standing up at the table and berating other players decisions. Link to post Share on other sites
M101A1-105 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I got an idea. Now that you've received your first suckout on the river, and been thrown out because of the subsequent hubub which you could have prevented, how about remembering next time to say, "Nice hand, Sir" and show the donkey you can really handle it like a man. Say nothing more, just "Nice hand, Sir". Smile, get your cards for the next hand, and bust the donk in the chops. That's why donkey's have floppy ears and big teeth....so you can hold their heads and bust'em in the chops. Remember, and repeat after me,..... "Nice hand, Sir" Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I think you probably overreacted to a certain extent and perhaps your actions were much more aggressive in real life than they sound in your post. Just take it as a lesson about handling bad beats. The people that I respect at the poker table are those that can take bad beats and still smile about it and move on to the next hand. Emotional control at live games is something that I continually work on. Personally, my proudest moment in live cash games is the night when I lost over $1K (quite a fair bit of money for a student like me) at 10/20 and still kept my cool. I didn't show any anger towards the players who sucked out on me or even say things like "nice hand" (which can often come off as sarcastic) and continued joking with my neighboring players. At the end of the session, I wished everyone goodluck and smiled at everyone. I definitely matured a little that night.I think Greenstein said something along the lines of you don't actually see a person's true character at the poker table, but rather, the worst aspects of his character. Developing the emotional and psychogical fortitude to handle beats like this will deifnitely make you a better person and probably help you in other aspects of your life too. Link to post Share on other sites
TylerDurden82 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 I probably would have put him on the bluff as well, based on the way I imagined the villain quickly going all in on the turn. If he had told me I made a bad call, I would have said that I made a great call and that he got lucky. If he had kept it going, I would have held up my hand and said, "you know; you're right. I made a bad call. Nice hand."It's tough to do, sometimes, but it's important to not tap on the aquarium. Supposedly, you want to keep him happy, keep him in the game, and win your money back before long.http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/15747 Thanks I'll keep that in mind for next time. I wasn't flipping out about it like someone of you might picture. Yes I was angry but I knew coming into the place that I was there to have fun no matter what and I was remembering that when the situation occured. I basically just wanted to sit him straight and no I wasn't not drinking. However I'll remember just to keep my oppent happy in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 You called his bluff and he got lucky. I agree that maybe you shouldn't be at the table at all if you let something like this get under your skin. Really don't say anything - he knows he sucked out, it's over and done with, just play the next hand. Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Yeah, I highly doubt you were as calm as you're making yourself out to be. No casino I've ever been in will ask you to leave or take a break just for doing what you did. So I imagine the situation was a little more heated than you're telling us. My solution: don't act like a douchebag the next time, and you won't have this problem. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Thanks I'll keep that in mind for next time. I wasn't flipping out about it like someone of you might picture. Yes I was angry but I knew coming into the place that I was there to have fun no matter what and I was remembering that when the situation occured. I basically just wanted to sit him straight and no I wasn't not drinking. However I'll remember just to keep my oppent happy in the future.I've played in between 40 and 50 casinos. No one gets booted this easy. There's more to the story. And take your bad beats like a man. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I don't think you deserved to be kicked out, but you probably should've just let it go w/o saying anything.Aye. Link to post Share on other sites
Socrates 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 So let's see. You make a bad pf call and then get lucky. You then apparently get a good read on the guy and get all the money in with the best of it, then you get upset when you lose. It really seems as though poker isn't your game if you get upset this easily, especially over such a small amount of money.Also, by talking with him about it afterwards all you are doing is giving him and the rest of the table information on how you play. People who complain about bad beats and people who talk about how they or someone else plays at a table are by far my favorite ppl in a casino :-) Link to post Share on other sites
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