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Okay, so I watched the bad boys of poker last night. Gus Hansen, crazy player, plays anything. Phil Laak talks all kinds of crazy talk, acts eccentrically. Antonio talks all kinds of crap, does the wave, ect. Devil Fish Ulliot General bad assss s** talker. Paul Darden, black man. Seriously, folks, Paul Darden is not a "Bad boy" of poker. He seems like a calm, thoughtful player, who plays a little tight weak ( in comparison to the guys at the bad boys he was with). In his other WPT poker appearence, where he kicked butt, he was silent almost the whole time, and made very solid reads and plays. What reason on earth is he a "bad boy" of poker, other than he's black, and he dresses like a urban black man? Tony G talks infinite more s**T than paul. Josh Arieh does too. Even Daniel I would think of as a "bad boy" more than paul. Maybe this was just my perception of paul, maybe he really is a wild man, deserving of his "bad boy" spot. This isn't the "world is going to end" racism. But it's the kind of racism that makes people say, not like TO. Just my thought as I was watching it last night ( when I wasn't thinking about what a god Gus is).edit: i can't say ra c ist?

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i almost have to agree with you to be honest. i saw him win the tournament in the first season on the WPT, and if i'm not mistaken, hellmuth and the magician were both at that table (maybe i'm just gettin them all mixed up in my head) and while phil and antonio were yappin away at each other, darden was extremely calm and collected never letting his emotions go unchecked. so from that point of you, i agree with in in the fact that i can not see a reason for him to be called a "bad boy". but all in all the whole idea of a "bad boys of poker" tournament is ridiculous. is gus hanson a "bad boy" cause he raises out of position with 7-3 off? cause i've never really seen him toss one across the table at andy bloch for callin with pocket 4's.

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True.. but at least he as an unconventional, colorful style. Darden, while a solid player, isn't a maniac/genius like hansen. Hansen is a bad boy by the sheer virtue of his Iconoclastic style. Darden was a bad boy 'cause he is black.

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True.. but at least he as an unconventional, colorful style. Darden, while a solid player, isn't a maniac/genius like hansen. Hansen is a bad boy by the sheer virtue of his Iconoclastic style. Darden was a bad boy 'cause he is black.
i am just failing to see how his style makes him a bad boy. i mean, if i start raising my 6-2 under the gun am i now a bad boy? he's a gambler who takes risk. if you know a poker player who doesn't take some risk, i'd be interested to meet him. i understand hanson takes alot more risks, but that doesn't make him a bad boy in poker. makes him a gambler. was the mouth there? i'd say someone who goes to jail earns more of a bad boy rep then gus :-)
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its also probably because of who he and not how he acts...he owns a rap record label...that right there to some, deserves the right to be a bad boy...lol that sounds ridiculous but that may have some merrit

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its also probably because of who he and not how he acts...he owns a rap record label...that right there to some, deserves the right to be a bad boy...lol that sounds ridiculous but that may have some merrit
Whatever don't talk about rap that way.. there are plenty of rap videos that don't have violence, don't degrade women, or show life's excesses.......
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its also probably because of who he and not how he acts...he owns a rap record label...that right there to some, deserves the right to be a bad boy...lol that sounds ridiculous but that may have some merrit
Whatever don't talk about rap that way.. there are plenty of rap videos that don't have violence, don't degrade women, or show life's excesses.......
i think he was leaning towards the idea that people picture suge knight when they think of rap record owner or just have that general stereotype about it, which is why they would see that and say "ah yes, bad boy for sure"don't think he meant it as a knock against rap
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its also probably because of who he and not how he acts...he owns a rap record label...that right there to some, deserves the right to be a bad boy...lol that sounds ridiculous but that may have some merrit
Whatever don't talk about rap that way.. there are plenty of rap videos that don't have violence, don't degrade women, or show life's excesses.......
rolf, nice post!
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Although most of Darden's TV appearances make him look out to be a fairly calm, his encounter with Lederer in the WSOP (2003?) made him seem to be more of the bad-boy persona. He was needling Howard a lot and raising a lot of hands in that segment. Of course there are many other individuals much more rewarding of the bad boy image than Paul, but maybe they were unavailable to play.

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I have to say that I thought the same things as the OP as I was watching this, and I even said it out loud to my girlfriend. I have seen the 2003 WSOP footage, and while Darden is certainly a pro at needling, I don't think he is a bad boy in the vein of the others at the table. As far as table talk goes, I wouldn't really consider Gus a bad boy, but that's another story.I do think that the WPT was perpetuating a stereotype that just b/c Darden is black and does dress in more of an urban style, that he is a bad boy. Here's my table of bad boys:Laak, Hellmuth, Devilfish, Sam Grizzle, Amarillo Slim (just cuz...imagine him needling Hellmuth), Sam Farha.As far as table talk goes, that would be a fun one to watch.

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on the recent ESPN tourney last week you can see darden needle people at the table.  thats bad enuf for me.  (and he is a thug)
How in the world do you know he is a thug. I know a few thugs and NONE of them are as soft spoken or self controlled as Darden. Perhaps you don't know what a real thug is.
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I think this is the most ridiculous post I've ever read on here. If someone wants to be biggoted towards me and invite me to a freeroll for 100 000's of dollars, they can go right ahead and do so.I'm sure Paul really thinks the WPT is biggoted...lol.

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I like the guy that said that Paul Darden is "Tight Weak"......Darden is a chip chucking maniac when he gets going........He just picks his spots to run over the table.......The guy is a great player.

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I think this is the most ridiculous post I've ever read on here. If someone wants to be biggoted towards me and invite me to a freeroll for 100 000's of dollars, they can go right ahead and do so.I'm sure Paul really thinks the WPT is biggoted...lol.
Agree completely. If they hadn't invited a black man, somebody would claim prejudice on those grounds. Ridiculous.
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Whether it's right or wrong I don't know. But I'll tell you what it might boil down to is availability.The powers that be at the WPT may have thought about the people they want there. Lets say they have a list. Maybe Paul just happened to be like the 10th (or so) person they contacted and finally said yes. I mean they only win a seat at the 25k entry right? Maybe they asked several and they had something more pressing going on...(like a cash game or washing their clothes)In this episode so many people wonder about Gus's call of the Magic man's pocket pair. He probably didn't care. It may not be as scientific as some peopel think.

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I don't think the WPT was bigotted in picking Darden. Since it was a free roll, I think that they wanted to use some of their more popular players with different styles that have had success on the WPT. All five of the pros playing on the Bad Boys show have one at least one WPT event.Also, you guys are taking the name more seriously than the WPT does. If you remember, they allowed Sexton and Hellmuth to play on their By the Book show even though Hellmuth's book is nowhere near the caliber of the others and Sexton's book they were plugging hadn't even come out yet. Also, they let Kathy Leibert play on the Ladies Night show.

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