No Way I Can Fold Right?

[disctiger85 0]

I know this hand isn't that challenging, but I'm trying to get back into posting so consider this a warm-up. So, I had just posted in MP so no reads.Bodog .25/.50 NL (8-handed)UTG+1 $58disctiger $50Button $24Disctiger posted in MP w/ A T Pre-flop:UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, discitger checks, CO folds, Button cals, SB calls, BB checksFlop ($2.50): 2 T 3 SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, disctiger bets $2, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 callsTurn ($8.50): 8 UTG+1 checks, disctiger bets $9, UTG+1 folds, Button goes all-in, disctiger calls

[shrimp4789 0]

with no raise pre-flop, the blinds could have anything. theres so many hands that beat you. sets, 2 pairs, are the most likely. i would prob fold here personally.....thats alot of money to risk with only TPTK

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

What did UTG+1 do prior to our call?If he folded, we have to call approx $20 to win $40 2:1If he called, we have to call $20 to win $60 3:1We have top pair top kicker.I'd say with two players in the hand we are likely beat by a set or over pair or possibly 2 pair. One of them may still be playing a couple of over cards or flush draw.I could probably lay it down.

[disctiger85 0]

What did UTG+1 do prior to our call?If he folded, we have to call approx $20 to win $40 2:1If he called, we have to call $20 to win $60 3:1We have top pair top kicker.I'd say with two players in the hand we are likely beat by a set or over pair or possibly 2 pair. One of them may still be playing a couple of over cards or flush draw.I could probably lay it down.

Sorry, I forget to include that UTG+1 folded on the turn(edit made), and the Button's all in was onliy another $12.50 more since I had already put in $9. Basically I'm calling $12.50 to win $39 better than 3:1.At these limits I've become accustomed to people pushing flush draws in that spot or maybe a Tx....Although, it has seemed people have been turning their 2 pair on me and it's been frustrating. Basically, I was wondering if anybody minds my very slight overbet on the turn?

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

...the Button's all in was onliy another $12.50 more since I had already put in $9. Basically I'm calling $12.50 to win $39 better than 3:1...

Whoops, my math sux!Yeah, I still think we may be beat with only at most 5 outs perhaps worse. Making us a 9:1 dog. But if you put the villan on a flush draw and nothing else and feel confident in that, then the money is good.

[Peak01 0]

I bet $6 on the turn and fold to his shove.

[DonkSlayer 1]

Read dependent. You're getting at least 2:1 so if you think the villain would do this with a draw, call. If there's any doubt, probably better to pick another spot.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Welcome back to poker. TPTK is not invincible.You bet too big on the turn to give yourself the option of folding.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

When playing OOP, check/call the turn and re-evaluate the river; check/fold a bad card, check/call a brick, lead a twopair/trips card. Keep the pot small out of position. You will make more money.

[Peak01 0]

When playing OOP, check/call the turn and re-evaluate the river; check/fold a bad card, check/call a brick, lead a twopair/trips card. Keep the pot small out of position. You will make more money.

You don't want to check on the turn here. You very likely have the best hand and letting him have a free card to draw out on you is criminal. I agree with keeping pots small but in this case you have to bet it.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

You don't want to check on the turn here. You very likely have the best hand and letting him have a free card to draw out on you is criminal. I agree with keeping pots small but in this case you have to bet it.

I don't really agree at all.I'm making a mental note to come back and explain why.

[Zach6668 513]

I don't really agree at all.I'm making a mental note to come back and explain why.

Eagerly awaiting.I've been checking turns like this a lot lately too, but not sure on the correctness.

[CobaltBlue 662]

I don't really agree at all.

At this level with this board, I think we've got to lead again with TPTK. I'd be more inclined to agree with you if we had something like KT/QT/JT. I totally understand where you're coming from in keeping the pot smaller OOP with a mediumish hand, but I think circumstances lead to a bet being better in this spot. That said, we certainly don't need to bet $9 into $8.50. I prefer something along the lines of $5-$6...leaving us a little flexibility. As played, I call.Here's why... equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 68.0016 % 64.82% 04.18% { AsTs }Hand 2: 31.9984 % 28.29% 04.18% { TT, 88, 33-22, AdQd, AdJd, ATs, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KdQd, KdJd, KTs, Kd9d, Kd8d, Kd3d, QdJd, QTs, Qd9d, Qd8d, JTs, Jd9d, Jd8d, T8s+, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o+ }

[disctiger85 0]

Stupid pros....watching High Stakes Poker you see them bet the flop and if they get called by someone they think is drawing then they overbet the pot on a non-threatening turn in order to drive the draw out. It is not something I ordinarily do by any means, but when I see a short stack trying to draw I felt like making him either commit all his chips on the turn or fold. A call in that spot for him is completely out of the question. As it happened, he pushed and I found myself in a spot where I felt a fold was impossible based on the way the hand had played to that point. Again, overbetting the turn is not something I practice regularly, but every now and then I just feel like throwing it into my game. Thanks for all the responses guys. More hands sure to come

[EurekaKid 0]

Why did you bet so much on the turn? If you had raised pre-flop or had some better definition on the hand it was a good bet size, but not knowing where you are at I prefer to keep the pot a little smaller. As played I call though.