$80 million freezeout

[slappy110 0]

is there anywhere where this proposition is documented or spoken of?? how did you guys here of this? is this something thats even likely to occur?

[scweeber 0]

i don't know about the history of the beal games and i don't have the patience to read this whole thread, but i seem to remember a phil hellmuth article where he mentioned that lederer won millions playing 100K-200K limit hold 'em during the last WSOP... i assumed that was the beal game...am i wrong?

[Erik67 0]

I am out of the loop.Can someone direct me towards a website that has the results from the last time Beal went to Vegas and where he played the 100K-200K games and lost all that money.Id like to read about it.

That's where this whole thing started. You weren't supposed to be able to read about it. Todd Brunson and Chaiu Ghang started talking about how much they won to reporters. Doyle even published it in Todd's section of SS2. This was a breach of the agreement made between Andy and The Corporation before the game started.Doyle admits that the trust was broken. That's why Beal got upset, not because he lost the equivalent of a lunch tab to these players.

[ArseneLupin3 0]

The agreed terms will be in the next cardplayer.

[KDawgCometh 2]

Yeah, Norman Chad started mentioning this when the WSOP aired. I think that is around the time that Andy Beal started to get upset

[NicksDad1970 0]

I am out of the loop.Can someone direct me towards a website that has the results from the last time Beal went to Vegas and where he played the 100K-200K games and lost all that money.Id like to read about it.

That's where this whole thing started. You weren't supposed to be able to read about it. Todd Brunson and Chaiu Ghang started talking about how much they won to reporters. Doyle even published it in Todd's section of SS2. This was a breach of the agreement made between Andy and The Corporation before the game started.Doyle admits that the trust was broken. That's why Beal got upset, not because he lost the equivalent of a lunch tab to these players.

Where in SS2? Unless I'm missing something it doesn't sayanywhere in the index where Todd's contributions are located.

[MilesZS 0]

I am out of the loop.Can someone direct me towards a website that has the results from the last time Beal went to Vegas and where he played the 100K-200K games and lost all that money.Id like to read about it.

That's where this whole thing started. You weren't supposed to be able to read about it. Todd Brunson and Chaiu Ghang started talking about how much they won to reporters. Doyle even published it in Todd's section of SS2. This was a breach of the agreement made between Andy and The Corporation before the game started.Doyle admits that the trust was broken. That's why Beal got upset, not because he lost the equivalent of a lunch tab to these players.

Where in SS2? Unless I'm missing something it doesn't sayanywhere in the index where Todd's contributions are located.

Page 365. Seriously. Look it up.

[faketree 0]

I didn't know too much about Andy Beal except that he was a billionaire and he owned a very successful bank in Dallas, TX. Well, that changed last night when I read a pretty good biography about him.Turns out he is an absolute math genius. So much so that he tried to simplify Fermat's last Theorum (or conjecture). It is impossible to try and explain what this is, but let me just say that it took hundreds of years for someone to come up with a proof for this theorum. On his way through this, he discovered a different conjecture based on this theorum. He has put up $100,000 to anyone who can prove or disprove his conjecture. Needless to say, this man is very smart.He is known for taking, what would seem, high risk business endeavours. But if you ask him if it is high risk, he will say not in the slightest. He's spent enormous amounts of time calculating this risk/reward situations and basing business decisions off of that. This could be what Sklansky meant by him thinking Andy had his computers working double time to come up with certain algorithms for limit poker.It appears that Andy believes he is close to cracking some sort of hidden mathematics involved in poker with combinations of number theory and game theory and whatever else he has at his disposal. Quite possibly just heads-up limit poker.Being a math nut myself, I find this whole experiment incredibly fascinating and, to me at least, it has become more than just the biggest poker game in history. It could become one of the biggest mathematical breakthoughs of my lifetime.If anyone else is interesting in reading about Andy, I suggest you google search and read everything you can. He is quite an interesting individual.

[yeffy 0]

Also, this is Limit. Phil is a no limit/ pot limit specialist.If nothing else, this is probably the point that drives home the fact that Phil should not be playing with the other people's money against Beal.

As far as I was aware, Phil Built his bankroll playing stud. How someone gleaned the fact that he is a big bet specialist from this and the fact that the majority of high limit games (where phil has played since before he was 21) are limit hold'em or mixed limit games is beyond me.-adam

You are talking about Phil Ivey. We are talking about Phil Hellmouth.Phil Hellmuth is the biggest stud fish around according to some. He actually once told Larry Flint (an excellent stud player who is stupid wealthy) afetr a bad beat "If you keep playing that badly you'll be broke." Give me a break.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

Also, this is Limit. Phil is a no limit/ pot limit specialist.If nothing else, this is probably the point that drives home the fact that Phil should not be playing with the other people's money against Beal.

As far as I was aware, Phil Built his bankroll playing stud. How someone gleaned the fact that he is a big bet specialist from this and the fact that the majority of high limit games (where phil has played since before he was 21) are limit hold'em or mixed limit games is beyond me.-adam

You are talking about Phil Ivey. We are talking about Phil Hellmouth.Phil Hellmuth is the biggest stud fish around according to some. He actually once told Larry Flint (an excellent stud player who is stupid wealthy) afetr a bad beat "If you keep playing that badly you'll be broke." Give me a break.

He already knows. I told him that shortly after he posted and he admitted to a drug addiction or something. Have a look just below where you found that quote. Just letting you know. Have a good day.

[Guest Anonymous]

Smash and his micro limit play would eat Beal alive!!!