Evidence Of Life After Death

[zzz 0]

yeah, and you're not gullible.

The facts are on my side and you know it. I throw down how the encyclopedia says "Recent scientific studies have validated the NDE as not only a legitimate experience, but a verification of the long-held belief in an afterlife." Your response is "The encyclopedias aren't telling the truth...it's a conspiracy...believe me over encyclopedias!" Don't blame me for your ignorant opinions.

[crowTrobot 2]

The facts are on my side and you know it. I throw down how the encyclopedia says "Recent scientific studies have validated the NDE as not only a legitimate experience, but a verification of the long-held belief in an afterlife."

since very few working scientists believe that the quote is obvious from a biased source.

Your response is "The encyclopedias aren't telling the truth...it's a conspiracy...believe me over encyclopedias!"

dude anyone can make their own entry or edit in wikipedia and much of it is never double-checked against other sources. it's not the encyclopedia that's lying, it's whoever made the entry.

[mrdannyg 274]

zzz is right, wikipedia is 100% factual.check out the entry on NDE's:NDE's according to an encyclopediahint: search for "Bokonist"

Her 'perceived' reality matched the 'perceived' realities of the people in the operating room.No. The facts are on my side.

no, a few other people's opinions are on your side. anything resembling a 'fact' is on our side. it's not our fault you've completed ignore the topic of neuroscience in something that is wholly explainable by neuroscience.

[zzz 0]

zzz is right, wikipedia is 100% factual.check out the entry on NDE's:NDE's according to an encyclopediahint: search for "Bokonist"no, a few other people's opinions are on your side. anything resembling a 'fact' is on our side. it's not our fault you've completed ignore the topic of neuroscience in something that is wholly explainable by neuroscience.

According to neuroscience it would be impossible to hear and see under the conditions she was in.

[mrdannyg 274]

According to neuroscience it would be impossible to hear and see under the conditions she was in.

so lets see this study then where a woman saw/heard things her physical body could not have perceived.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Hey zzz, Bokonist much?

Don't insult the term Bokonist by associating it with him.

[zzz 0]

so lets see this study then where a woman saw/heard things her physical body could not have perceived.

It is in the article. Not enough info for you? G.M. Woerlee is a famous skeptic who wrote part of a book on this case. Even he concedes that she saw and heard things her physical body could not have perceived.

[ShakeZuma 585]

Can't you all see that you are in fact wrong? The facts are on his side. It is a shame that you cannot understand this because you cannot be happy. Millions of people have said that there is life after death. You cannot deny that.It actually is pretty hard arguing without any basis of an argument. I've never tried before. Wow. I guess you've gotta give the guy credit for that.

[zzz 0]

Don't insult the term Bokonist by associating it with him.

Are you really happy with that stick up your butt?

Can't you all see that you are in fact wrong? The facts are on his side. It is a shame that you cannot understand this because you cannot be happy. Millions of people have said that there is life after death. You cannot deny that.It actually is pretty hard arguing without any basis of an argument. I've never tried before. Wow. I guess you've gotta give the guy credit for that.

I am sorry you are so close minded.

[crowTrobot 2]

so lets see this study then where a woman saw/heard things her physical body could not have perceived.

you have to buy the book to learn about it : )

[zzz 0]

you have to buy the book to learn about it : )

Actually, all of the facts of the case are in the article.

[ShakeZuma 585]

you have to buy the book to learn about it : )

but you cannot be happy until you read the book and understand that you are wrong.I'm just gonna keep doing this. its kinda fun. maybe thats why he does it.

[zzz 0]

The news media reports mainly the skeptical view of near death experiences. Explaining how drugs cause NDEs, or how NDEs are just a misfiring synapse in the brain, or an illusion due to dissociation. They have a list of standard "physical" causes of the near death experience. This list only works with some of the aspects of near death experiences, but not with others. So they name only the NDE aspects their list can explain. If they named all the elements of a full-blown NDE, their physical causes would look rather lame. Some of the things they don't usually mention are:After being revived, the individual will give information of what happened while he/she was dead. Not only local information from around the body, but sometimes information gathered from miles away, information that is later verified by doctors, friends, or relatives. These are called veridical NDEs.Talking with deceased relatives and receiving information that proved accurate in the physical world. Such as a deceased relative telling the experiencer where their last will was buried or other helpful information later verified by the experiencer and others.Seeing and talking to a Spirit Being who is very loving, and kind. This Spirit Being tells them they must go back into the physical world because they have not finished their lives. The experiencer often protests and wants to stay in the spiritual, but is forced back into their body anyway.Experiencing a Life Review: A Spirit Being shows them to a place where their life is reviewed on a screen. Literally "having your life pass before your eyes". Here the experiencer feels the result of his actions to others. This experience can be very difficult. Danion Brinkly said this part was so difficult for him he could barely talk about it. He said he felt the pain of a man he had killed, at the same time he felt the pain of his wife, children and friends. One experiencer said she never felt so humilated in her life. Another said she was so embarrassed she could do nothing but cry after seeing the way she had treated others.Being taken to a hall or cathedral and shown future events in the form of pictures and icons. Then coming back to life and seeing these things come true one after the other.Feeling intense energy, and upon returning not being able to sleep for days, having strange things happen, like touching a light bulb, not connected to electricity, and watch it light up, touching people and having them remark that their aches and pains had just stopped. Feeling so peaceful and full of joy, indescribable in words. Small electrical items fail around you, watches stop, batteries go dead, etc. Pictures appearing in a camera not taken by the NDE user. This intense energy does lessen with the passing of time.Being shown the Park, the Akashic Hall of Records, Schools, and Libraries, a partial layout of the crystal city so many experiencers talk about.Seeing the Bright Light, knowing it is God's presence and His unconditional love. There is the knowledge within the light of all things available for the asking. When one thinks of a question, the answer immediately pops into conscious thought. No wonder no one wants to leave.Not all of these events will happen in all NDEs. But they have all happened in someone's near death experience posted in the web sites that study this phenonmenon along with other events not mentioned here. Remember that the near death experience is personal for the individual experiencing it. They each will be unique as each person is unique.

[ShakeZuma 585]

so you're saying that John Edward isn't the biggest douche in the world?I'm floored.

[zzz 0]

but you cannot be happy until you read the book and understand that you are wrong.I'm just gonna keep doing this. its kinda fun. maybe thats why he does it.

I never read the book and I am happy. I happen to have happier beliefs than you. It isn't wrong to have different beliefs, but it is not smart."All I know is I know nothing."-Socrates "It isn't what you know that makes you happy, it is what you believe."-zzz

so you're saying that John Edward isn't the biggest douche in the world?I'm floored.

How is making people feel good a bad thing?

[ShakeZuma 585]

you have no idea, and thats what makes if funny

How is making people feel good a bad thing?

couldn't agree more. same reason drugs and prostitution should be legal.

[zzz 0]

you have no idea, and thats what makes if funny

How ironic.

you have no idea, and thats what makes if funnycouldn't agree more. same reason drugs and prostitution should be legal.

John Edwards helps people. Drugs and prostitution hurt people.

[ShakeZuma 585]

what kind of drugs and prostitution are you familiar with?

[zzz 0]

what kind of drugs and prostitution are you familiar with?

How is John Edwards a ****** for helping people with their grief?

[mrdannyg 274]

i wonder what it must be like living in a world where magical, illogical things can happen, with no basis for explanation.it must be weird and stressful knowing that things can occur, at any time, with no reasonable causality. and not being able to tell highly biased sources from scientific ones, with no specific agenda except accuracy.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Are you really happy with that stick up your butt?

Tell the truth. You're a joke account, right? From this point on I'm just assuming that you are. Good one.

[mrdannyg 274]

How is John Edwards a ****** for helping people with their grief?

are we watching South Park?"he's a dbag because he doesn't help people, he gives them false hope. it is not the same thing." - stan marsh

[zzz 0]

i wonder what it must be like living in a world where magical, illogical things can happen, with no basis for explanation.it must be weird and stressful knowing that things can occur, at any time, with no reasonable causality. and not being able to tell highly biased sources from scientific ones, with no specific agenda except accuracy.

I for one don't live in such a world. There are mountains of evidence supporting my belief of life after death. I'm sorry if the evidence isn't good enough for you.

[mrdannyg 274]

I for one don't live in such a world. There are mountains of evidence supporting my belief of life after death. I'm sorry if the evidence isn't good enough for you.

so far i've only heard second-hand accounts of unscientific studies where someone may have experienced something that was probably not possible to be heard by their physical body.i'm sorry if that evidence is good enough for you to change the way you live your life, and purposely falsify your beliefs in an effort to trick yourself into being superficially happier.

[zzz 0]

Tell the truth. You're a joke account, right? From this point on I'm just assuming that you are. Good one.

You are so witty. I have millions of pieces of evidence that NDEs are real. Where is your evidence?

are we watching South Park?"he's a dbag because he doesn't help people, he gives them false hope. it is not the same thing." - stan marsh

False hope is better than no hope. Yes he does help people, although I have no scientific studies proving it.