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Is it not a bit stupid that when someone mucks their cards after losing a hand, you can simply check what they had by going to look at the previous hand, and it says what they mucked?
Tough to argue with the RULES OF POKER.
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no, because you can do the same thing in live play, its just considered bad etiquette
You can? So if I'm playing in my home game and I have to show first and I end up winning the hand and my opponent mucks, I'm allowed to just reach in the muck and flip his hand? I'm not questioning etiquette here I'm simply wondering is it allowed?
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Any called hand can be viewed by anyone at the table. If you call a bet and turn over your hand and your opponent throws his hand away anyone at the table can request the hand be revealed. The cards would be considered dead and even if he accidently mucked the winner, you still win the pot. However if you call a bet, turn your cards and your opponent mucks his hand, but you ask to see what he had, the hand remains live and if he accidently threw away the winner, he would take the pot. But as far as poker etiquette goes, you should never ask to see what the cards were, especially if you were the only live hand left in the hand.

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Any called hand can be viewed by anyone at the table. If you call a bet and turn over your hand and your opponent throws his hand away anyone at the table can request the hand be revealed. The cards would be considered dead and even if he accidently mucked the winner, you still win the pot. However if you call a bet, turn your cards and your opponent mucks his hand, but you ask to see what he had, the hand remains live and if he accidently threw away the winner, he would take the pot. But as far as poker etiquette goes, you should never ask to see what the cards were, especially if you were the only live hand left in the hand.
Thats just wrong. You muck cards are dead, it does not matter when.
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Thats just wrong. You muck cards are dead, it does not matter when.
Its not wrong unless you do it properly. Go to some casinos and they will do it properly. What you do is award the pot and take all the cards. Take the mucked hand and physically touch the muck with them. It is now a dead hand and it doesnt matter. I actually like the casinos that keep the cards live. I hate people doing this. Its in such bad taste. Ive had a couple of pretty bad arguments at the table because of this. People dont understand what they are doing is poor etiquette. The rule is there to stop collusion, not so you can pick up info on your opponent. A good floorperson will warn people not to abuse this rule.
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You can? So if I'm playing in my home game and I have to show first and I end up winning the hand and my opponent mucks, I'm allowed to just reach in the muck and flip his hand? I'm not questioning etiquette here I'm simply wondering is it allowed?
Home games are kind of a different situation. Unless you let your friends know ahead of time that you might be doing this, they will probably be pretty upset when you try to look at their mucked cards. Home games, at least the ones that most people like to play in, are much more relaxed than casino games and don't necessarily follow the rules to the letter.
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Any called hand can be viewed by anyone at the table. If you call a bet and turn over your hand and your opponent throws his hand away anyone at the table can request the hand be revealed.
I really did not know that! oh well. i guess thats why you can do it online :club:
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Home games are kind of a different situation. Unless you let your friends know ahead of time that you might be doing this, they will probably be pretty upset when you try to look at their mucked cards. Home games, at least the ones that most people like to play in, are much more relaxed than casino games and don't necessarily follow the rules to the letter.
If people play for money, they should play by the rules.
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Like someone said earlier... Yes, everyone at the table can call for a mucked hand to be exposed. Extremely bad table manners but the rule is put in place to stop collusion.So, lets say you are in a hand with two other players in which you think they are working together. When it is time to show the cards, one of the players working together might muck the best had so his friend could win the pot. If you suspect this, you can call out the player and see all of the cards. That is why the rule is in place I believe. Also, this is only one of the situations that would cause you to use this rule.

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Yes, it is not a bit stupid.Some people don't check.
Awhile ago on FullTilt, the losing player fibbed about his hand in the chat after mucking at showdown. His opponnent said, "that's not what you had. You had X" The loser went on a rant about how his opponnent must be cheating, etc. He had no idea that you could check it in the last hand feature.....and half the table also said they had no idea. I put them all on my buddy list
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I call a bet, he shows first and has me beat, I muck. Can anyone ask to see my cards, or only cards of a called bet?
Big argument at a casino once about this ... the caller shows first. If the person he calls mucks, the caller can request to see what he called. The rest of the table can see, but only the caller can request. Those are the rules according to the casino this happened in.
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