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Any of you Americans tired of these Canadians complaining about the U.S.? DN's Oct. 4th blog is just one example. Complain about our politics? And you're from a country where the office of prime minister, who is the head of the government, is not even mentioned in their constitution. They just kind of made the office up, and since nobody noticed or cared to stop it, the made up office is the head of the government. The leader of the Canadian government is appointed by the queen of England, through the governor general (appointed by the queen). And U.S. politics is a joke?The Canadian government was dominated by the Liberals (one thing Canada has going for it - they call a liberal a liberal) for about the last ten years. They got control of the government in the early 90s by promising to get rid of the GST (the much hated 7% national sales tax). When they got in power, they forgot about this central campaign issue. While they were trying to make Canada a socialist state over the next 10 years, they also were very corrupt and this finally caught up with them in the last few years. Canadians finally just recently got wise and gave them the boot. And U.S. politics is a joke?The Canadian Senate is an appointed body, not elected. So if the ruling party doesn't get what they want through the senate, they just replace them with new appointments. And U.S. politics is a joke?So here we have a county who's head of the government is not even a constitutional office, is appointed by the queen of England, and who long to be just like France. And U.S. politics is a joke? Can anybody from Canada say that with a straight face?And now you complain when the U.S. Government does something that is constitutional? Regulating interstate commerce is absolutely part of our constitution. We follow our constitution. Internet poker was operating in a grey area, simply because the internet did not exist when the wire communications act became law. Our government has regulated gambling since the beginning of our country, this is not new. And a hint to non-Americans, don't try to get Americans to comply with your ideas by saying Europeans have done it (like in DN's blog). This may work in Canada, but not here. For those that do not live close to Canada and are unfamiliar with them, the whole Canadian national identity is “we are not Americans”. Not liberty, freedom, justice, democracy, or even the pursuit of happiness. Just “we are not Americans”. This is why your average Canadian, like DN, is enamored with Europeans. Of course they have to align themselves with the European way of thinking, because “they are not Americans”. So the next time you hear a Canadian complain about something in the U.S., don't take it personally. They have to. By complaining about something in the U.S., it justifies their national identity of “we are not Americans”, even though so many of them come to the U.S. to make a living, like DN.A little hint DN, Americans don't generally take kindly to foreigners coming here and putting us down. Even Diane Feinstein (extreme liberal) defended Pres. Bush when Hugo Chavez was putting him down. You could learn from that.

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US politics are a joke. :club: << straight face.<<<< Canadian.
It's ok, I realize you have to put down the U.S. to justify your national identity. I'm sure you would also be the first one to move here, if given the opportunity. But really, you have a government leadership position (prime minister) that is not mentioned in your consitution. Isn't that a bigger joke? Isn't your version of a senate a bigger joke? I suspect you didn't have a straight face when you typed that.
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Fuck it, I'll bite :D I think what needs to be said here is that politics as a whole is a joke. Being a Canadian, although very proud of my country, I too share some of the feelings expressed by the OP. To me, ANY politics are a big mess, which ever country you are looking at. Yes we can get into a large typical chest thumping over who's country does what, how big and powerful it is (or is not), fact remains, time and time again, something in politics makes me shake my head, no matter what side of the border it happens. :D Yes, I was ashamed of the Liberal scandals, although I'm not a Liberal voter, it still reflects badly on the system as a whole. Hard to remove a party from power when they are so entrenched for so long. But then it boils down to the lesser of two evils.So anyhow, let me wrap this up before it gets too disjointed (multitabling and posting hurts!). I understand DN's comments have hurt your american ego to the point that has led you to create a dummy account and post cowardly against another country (if you are so proud of your country, why hide?), remember that ALL politics, polititions, the systems, are royally screwed up across the board, any country. We KNOW our system isn't gleaming and perfect, so save the mudslinging, or grow the stones to post from your real account at the very least. :club:**EDIT** Just realized some people beat me to the punch, sorry for the redundancy

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It's ok, I realize you have to put down the U.S. to justify your national identity. I'm sure you would also be the first one to move here, if given the opportunity. But really, you have a government leadership position (prime minister) that is not mentioned in your consitution. Isn't that a bigger joke? Isn't your version of a senate a bigger joke? I suspect you didn't have a straight face when you typed that.
<<< Political Science minorYour assessments of the Canadian political system were faulty in the first place.They are different systems, both of which have faults, and benefits.Saying that one is better than the other when you clearly don't understand the Canadian system is pointless.- Zach
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So, let me get this straight.When foreigners move to America, they should blindly follow whatever leader is in power and never object to any laws that are made.(kind of like when the first group of british moved over to America and completely accepted the culture of the Native Americans. wait...........)ORThis is the anonymous account of President Bush and you believe that every country in the world should adopt the American form of Government and society.

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Hi. I'm an American and I complain about US politics. Canadians living in the US have the right to complain if they want. Canadians not living in the US have the right to complain. Anyone has the right to complain. One does not need to live in a country with a perfect government to see the imperfection in other governments.What was your point again? I think you got lost in all of your huffing and puffing.

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<<< Political Science minorYour assessments of the Canadian political system were faulty in the first place.They are different systems, both of which have faults, and benefits.Saying that one is better than the other when you clearly don't understand the Canadian system is pointless.- Zach
I can't stop looking at your sig.
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So, let me get this straight.When foreigners move to America, they should blindly follow whatever leader is in power and never object to any laws that are made.(kind of like when the first group of british moved over to America and completely accepted the culture of the Native Americans. wait...........)ORThis is the anonymous account of President Bush and you believe that every country in the world should adopt the American form of Government and society.
if you have an overnight houseguest, would you appreciate it if all they did was tell you how you run your household wrong? Espcially if their household was screwed up too?
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<<< Political Science minorYour assessments of the Canadian political system were faulty in the first place.- Zach
please elaborate. and tell me if it's any more faulty than DN saying Bill Frist passed the bill all by himself.
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way to stand up proudly behind your newly created anonymous account
Bringing up a legitimate point? There is no way that the troll will touch this. He will spend his energy spitting sludge at others who mock him, but he wont be able to explain simple things like this.
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if you have an overnight houseguest, would you appreciate it if all they did was tell you how you run your household wrong? Espcially if their household was screwed up too?
What are you talking about? Daniel lives in the United States. What exactly is it about becoming a US citizen that gives one the right to criticize. Is it the fact that he would pass a test or say the Pledge of Allegiance more?
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And now you complain when the U.S. Government does something that is constitutional? Regulating interstate commerce is absolutely part of our constitution. We follow our constitution. Internet poker was operating in a grey area, simply because the internet did not exist when the wire communications act became law. Our government has regulated gambling since the beginning of our country, this is not new.
Yes we do. Except for the part that says only Congress can declare war. And we don't really follow the establishment clause. Political parties aren't mentioned in the government and they're obviously a huge part in today's politics. Also, nothing is mentioned about the number of supreme court justices in our great document. So yes, we follow our constitution except for those minor examples...and about 10 others I could think of.
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Hi. I'm an American and I complain about US politics. Canadians living in the US have the right to complain if they want. Canadians not living in the US have the right to complain. Anyone has the right to complain. One does not need to live in a country with a perfect government to see the imperfection in other governments.
quite true. but as an American, do you think it would be helpful to the Canadians to go up there and tell them how screwed up their government is? Or do you think they would reject any criticism from an American as being an uniformed foreigner and write your opinion off?
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quite true. but as an American, do you think it would be helpful to the Canadians to go up there and tell them how screwed up their government is? Or do you think they would reject any criticism from an American as being an uniformed foreigner and write your opinion off?
Probably both (assuming their government is screwed up to begin with; I know nothing about Canadian poltics [no offense Zach])
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Bringing up a legitimate point? There is no way that the troll will touch this. He will spend his energy spitting sludge at others who mock him, but he wont be able to explain simple things like this.
should I put my real name and address in my user id, like you did? is dead your legal first name?
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The Canadian government was dominated by the Liberals (one thing Canada has going for it - they call a liberal a liberal) for about the last ten years. They got control of the government in the early 90s by promising to get rid of the GST (the much hated 7% national sales tax). When they got in power, they forgot about this central campaign issue. While they were trying to make Canada a socialist state over the next 10 years, they also were very corrupt and this finally caught up with them in the last few years. Canadians finally just recently got wise and gave them the boot. And U.S. politics is a joke?
I am Canadian and agree with pretty much most of what he said. He is right about all the key points, in particular, the one quoted above.
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quite true. but as an American, do you think it would be helpful to the Canadians to go up there and tell them how screwed up their government is? Or do you think they would reject any criticism from an American as being an uniformed foreigner and write your opinion off?
Hi.Do you understand that criticism and opposition is an absolute must to any political system?- ZachPS - I'll be back to answer your reply to my other post about the Canadian system when I have a minute to sit down and write in detail.
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