99, How Much To Bet The River?

[JMoney2681 0]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($27.90)UTG+1 ($36.25)UTG+2 ($50.77)MP1 ($3.95)MP2 ($4.85)MP3 ($19.46)Hero ($24.10)Button ($81.21)SB ($14.45)BB ($26.40)Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9. SB posts a blind of $0.10. UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50.Flop: ($3.10) 7, K, 6(4 players)BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.5, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.50.Turn: ($6.10) 7(2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.85, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $3.15.I was playing lots of pots and showing hands that were crap and playing super LAG, so the min raise to me meant nothing. That is why I called...If anyone is wondering.River: ($18.10) 9(2 players)UTG+1 checks.HERO?? Of course bet, but how much??

[David_Nicoson 1]

It would be good to know the villain's preflop raising range. With no read, I'd guess him for a hand like KQ. How much can that call on the river? How about 11? I really like to bet in multiples of 11 so I don't have to put in the effort to move my finger to a new number.

[Zach6668 513]

It would be good to know the villain's preflop raising range. With no read, I'd guess him for a hand like KQ. How much can that call on the river? How about 11? I really like to bet in multiples of 11 so I don't have to put in the effort to move my finger to a new number.

LOL, I soooo know what you mean.One question.Why the **** are we calling the turn raise?

[JMoney2681 0]

Why the **** are we calling the turn raise?

I was playing lots of pots and showing hands that were crap and playing super LAG, so the min raise to me meant nothing. That is why I called...If anyone is wonderingI typed it up on top but you probably just didn't see it.

[Zach6668 513]

I'm a retard.I also tend to read very little of the OP.It's still $25 NL though, I fold to a minraise all day long.

[JMoney2681 0]

I'm a retard.I also tend to read very little of the OP.It's still $25 NL though, I fold to a minraise all day long.

Really? See I generally thought that min raise were signs of weakness, but I guess when we aren't really playing deep stack, sometimes the min raise is the only raise we can put in, that doesn't completely tie you to the pot. Is that way they do it sometimes?

[Zach6668 513]

Really? See I generally thought that min raise were signs of weakness, but I guess when we aren't really playing deep stack, sometimes the min raise is the only raise we can put in, that doesn't completely tie you to the pot. Is that way they do it sometimes?

They (the donkeys) min raise because they want you to call.They don't understand that they are giving you odds to draw to flushes, etc.Nor do they get that they are completely minimizing their value.

[JMoney2681 0]

They (the donkeys) min raise because they want you to call.They don't understand that they are giving you odds to draw to flushes, etc.Nor do they get that they are completely minimizing their value.

Ahh...see I am not fully used to playing SUPER DONKS at NL yet. I played bigger NL games, but not with a proper roll and not online where you play so many hands a day. I am still learning. Thanks. So I guess next time beware the min raise. I recall seeing tough-fish make the worst raise of all time, with a min raise. There were 4 spades on the board, and he min raises with the straight flush. IMO you raise a lot more, if your opponent has a big spade, A or K he pays you off, if he is weak, he folds to a raise anyway.

[burbs42 0]

I bet about 10 here.Something that i may get blasted for is suggesting a call from the CO with the two nines. You already have two limpers, so why not try and win a nice big one with a flopped set, playing carefully if you flop an over. The more limpers, the more value this play has obv since youre now playing it like a drawing hand.Note: I generally don't play LAG online bc im only playing .5/1 at most, and people just cant fold hands, but i'm raising with 99 more often if im playing LAG.Playing micro online NL you can pretty much just value bet big hands, overbetting much of the time and still get called. I do it and it works anyway.

[krup24 0]

your probably behind on the turn here about 90% of the time. as played the magic number seems to be $11 and I like that bet as well.

[JMoney2681 0]

your probably behind on the turn here about 90% of the time. as played the magic number seems to be $11 and I like that bet as well.

Yeah I was a river rat. He had KQ, but I knew that he would call any bet because I was playing LAGish earlier, so I just pushed for $16 and he called. SEND IT.

[Canada 0]

Yeah I was a river rat. He had KQ, but I knew that he would call any bet because I was playing LAGish earlier, so I just pushed for $16 and he called. SEND IT.

You had less than the pot, so it was a no brainer push. If he's calling 10 or 11 he's calling 16.What I can't figure is you pushed, he called. Why do you need to ask how much to bet?Also unknowns & weakies don't tend to bluff LAGS they wait to trap them because they think they will get paid off and it strokes their egos. This makes the turn call blow.

[throwemaway 0]

I have a few questions about the way the hand was played up until the river...I think that is the least interesting part of the hand..You hit gin, you had a read, you had a loose image, ok..Preflop: After two limpers, I'm going to be playing 99 for set value the majority of time, or raising about 6x to knock out the blinds and hopefully get the pot HUFlop: I also probably don't continuation bet against 3 opponents and an overcard to my 99sTurn: It seems were just juicing a pot w/ the losing hand here w/ another bet...A 7 really doesn't fit into a hand I could be holding here..I guess if we think he's drawing this is OK...But when he repops us, I would probably fold

[caribstv 0]

Ok Mr. super aggressive: since you're been just plowing down pure aggression.!! you just finally got lucky on the river now sense in SLOWING down now... There's no way he thinks that 9 helped you... Min bet here should be a POT size bet!! but a over bet would be my first choice as it looks like AA, AK or super BluffPS.. you do know you were behind since post flop.. either a 7 or some K in his hand...

[DonkSlayer 1]

Ok Mr. super aggressive: since you're been just plowing down pure aggression.!! you just finally got lucky on the river now sense in SLOWING down now... There's no way he thinks that 9 helped you... Min bet here should be a POT size bet!! but a over bet would be my first choice as it looks like AA, AK or super BluffPS.. you do know you were behind since post flop.. either a 7 or some K in his hand...

This is nonsense if we go with the read of the OP. If Villain has a K or worse, he made a move, missed, and now we're going to give him an easy laydown by showing strength? Bah.

[caribstv 0]

This is nonsense if we go with the read of the OP. If Villain has a K or worse, he made a move, missed, and now we're going to give him an easy laydown by showing strength? Bah.

if he did make a move.. he'd fold to any bet you put here on the river..how ever if he has a K in his hand.. he'll have a decision

[anyone1 0]

PUSH the river. He'll call all day. The call on the turn is really iffy. P.S. As I've said before, table image is overrated at low-stakes internet poker.

[WallstreetMSU 0]

I bet 9 there..half the pot....hopefully he reraises you again.

[kes1981 0]

I think this a spot where if villan will call a pot bet, he will call a push. I vote push. Villan may even make a heroic call due to the overbet.