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I happened to be too late in opening LittlePoppa's rail call but managed to see this bonehead play of the day. Top 8 get seats into the WCOOP Main Event. Utterly dumb play unless he wanted the cash. PokerStars Game #6464160148: Tournament #32458439, $60+$6 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (15000/30000) - 2006/09/29 - 17:08:14 (ET)Table '32458439 7' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: beastiemiked (57200 in chips) Seat 2: two8off (32650 in chips) Seat 3: jedi1066 (12085 in chips) Seat 4: sunangel90 (30515 in chips) Seat 5: pkt pr boy (131350 in chips) Seat 6: rooney11 (80450 in chips) Seat 7: bzola (63790 in chips) Seat 8: gonzal63 (16320 in chips) Seat 9: Lazy Otter (2140 in chips) beastiemiked: posts the ante 1500two8off: posts the ante 1500jedi1066: posts the ante 1500sunangel90: posts the ante 1500pkt pr boy: posts the ante 1500rooney11: posts the ante 1500bzola: posts the ante 1500gonzal63: posts the ante 1500Lazy Otter: posts the ante 1500rooney11: posts small blind 15000bzola: posts big blind 30000*** HOLE CARDS ***gonzal63: folds Lazy Otter: calls 640 and is all-inbeastiemiked: folds two8off: folds jedi1066: folds sunangel90: folds pkt pr boy: folds rooney11: calls 15000bzola: checks *** FLOP *** [Th 4c Qd]rooney11: checks bzola: checks *** TURN *** [Th 4c Qd] [Kd]rooney11: checks bzola: checks *** RIVER *** [Th 4c Qd Kd] [5d]rooney11: checks bzola: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***rooney11: shows [Kc 4s] (two pair, Kings and Fours)bzola: mucks hand rooney11 collected 58720 from side potLazy Otter: mucks hand rooney11 collected 15420 from main pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 74140 Main pot 15420. Side pot 58720. | Rake 0 Board [Th 4c Qd Kd 5d]Seat 1: beastiemiked folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: two8off folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: jedi1066 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: sunangel90 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: pkt pr boy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: rooney11 (small blind) showed [Kc 4s] and won (74140) with two pair, Kings and FoursSeat 7: bzola (big blind) muckedSeat 8: gonzal63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Lazy Otter mucked

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You're saying he should have bet? Guess he didn't want to take the chance the other guy had a set/straight/flush and lose more chips? Or just checking down out of courtesy.
i assume he's referring to the guy calling all-in for 640 chips when even if he won the pot, he'd have less than 1 big blind.
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i must be missing something. why is it a bad play to fold your hand and let someone else bubble out? doesn't lazy otter go broke on this hand? therre are also a few other short stacks who will have to eat a blind soon. also, the guy with 640 was going to die by ante on the next hand.the only way it's stupid is if he gets the seat if they're both eliminated because he started the hand with more chips. but then again, if he goes out and the guy with 640 wins the hand, he's the bubble boy, right?

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I happened to be too late in opening LittlePoppa's rail call but managed to see this bonehead play of the day. Top 8 get seats into the WCOOP Main Event. Utterly dumb play unless he wanted the cash. PokerStars Game #6464160148: Tournament #32458439, $60+$6 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (15000/30000) - 2006/09/29 - 17:08:14 (ET)Table '32458439 7' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: beastiemiked (57200 in chips) Seat 2: two8off (32650 in chips) Seat 3: jedi1066 (12085 in chips) Seat 4: sunangel90 (30515 in chips) Seat 5: pkt pr boy (131350 in chips) Seat 6: rooney11 (80450 in chips) Seat 7: bzola (63790 in chips) Seat 8: gonzal63 (16320 in chips) Seat 9: Lazy Otter (2140 in chips) beastiemiked: posts the ante 1500two8off: posts the ante 1500jedi1066: posts the ante 1500sunangel90: posts the ante 1500pkt pr boy: posts the ante 1500rooney11: posts the ante 1500bzola: posts the ante 1500gonzal63: posts the ante 1500Lazy Otter: posts the ante 1500rooney11: posts small blind 15000bzola: posts big blind 30000*** HOLE CARDS ***gonzal63: folds Lazy Otter: calls 640 and is all-inbeastiemiked: folds two8off: folds jedi1066: folds sunangel90: folds pkt pr boy: folds rooney11: calls 15000bzola: checks *** FLOP *** [Th 4c Qd]rooney11: checks bzola: checks *** TURN *** [Th 4c Qd] [Kd]rooney11: checks bzola: checks *** RIVER *** [Th 4c Qd Kd] [5d]rooney11: checks bzola: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***rooney11: shows [Kc 4s] (two pair, Kings and Fours)bzola: mucks hand rooney11 collected 58720 from side potLazy Otter: mucks hand rooney11 collected 15420 from main pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 74140 Main pot 15420. Side pot 58720. | Rake 0 Board [Th 4c Qd Kd 5d]Seat 1: beastiemiked folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: two8off folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: jedi1066 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: sunangel90 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: pkt pr boy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: rooney11 (small blind) showed [Kc 4s] and won (74140) with two pair, Kings and FoursSeat 7: bzola (big blind) muckedSeat 8: gonzal63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Lazy Otter mucked
wouldn't that be considered a smart play? you're first to act with two people behing you that have 1BB left, 1 person that has 1SB left, and one person who is about to be ante'd off. if he had something like T6, then i would say it's definitely worthwhile to hope you get at least J high in the next hand, on the chance that someone does not bubble this hand. i would definitely fold a less-than-moderate hand here. Like someone said before, even if you double up, somebody else will probably bust in the next two hands anyway. why risk the short stack winning and you bubbling?
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i'm not quite sure what the bonehead play is either. Even if lazy otter folds and waits for gonzal to be all-in in the BB on the next hand, he will still be forced all-in on that same hand due to the antes. Either way he has to win a hand.

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Seat 1: beastiemiked (57200 in chips) Seat 2: two8off (32650 in chips) Seat 3: jedi1066 (12085 in chips) Seat 4: sunangel90 (30515 in chips) Seat 5: pkt pr boy (131350 in chips) Seat 6: rooney11 (80450 in chips) Seat 7: bzola (63790 in chips) Seat 8: gonzal63 (16320 in chips)Seat 9: Lazy Otter (2140 in chips)rooney11: posts small blind 15000bzola: posts big blind 30000*** HOLE CARDS ***gonzal63: foldsLazy Otter: calls 640 and is all-in
If I were sunangel, I'd fold ACES here on the bubble. Think about it. Lazy Otter is beyond dead, even if he wins the hand he will have only 6k left, with the big ante and BB/SB coming up on him, the majority of the time he will bust before we need to post a blind.There is also another tiny stack (jedi1066) with less than 1 SB left, who will also hit the blinds before sunangel does.After Lazy Otter goes all in for that sum, if we raise all in with AA (or whatever hand we have) it's still barely 1 BBtotal to call, so we will get called in at least once place in addition to Lazy Otter. Why even put chips in any pot and have a chance to lose while the situation dictates that we fold into the money/seats?
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