Chaserjim 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Well , this man is just bad for poker, great for TV. A couple times I would have stood up and probably been ejected for beatin the livin shit outa him for runnin his mouth the way he did. I dont mind table talk, but when it gets to the point where he's in someones face , when his opponent has just lost alot of chips, and he's yellin about destroying them , that's just frustrating. WPT officials should have stepped in long before it got to show down, and like marcel luske said, warn him severely. Karma prevailed its head when he ultimatley lost 1.4 mil in chips to the calm, mild mannered Surrinder Sunar. Im so glad Sunar talked smack to him at the very last headsup pot when surrinder knew he had him. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I was gonna make a thread on this but looks like you beat me to it. I watched all of the WPT last night. Tony G really really annoyed me. He wouldn't shut up and if he would have won I would have died. Come on, going all in with 10-8 os and calling an all in w/ J4? He definitely got what he deserved and now maybe he can shut up. On another note..... THis is my 100th post!!!! PARTY TIME!!!!! :-) :shock: 8) :? :x :!: :wink: :roll: :twisted: :-) :-) Link to post Share on other sites
BuzzWorthy 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I agree. It's one thing to put an opponent on tilt with a little talking, but after you've beaten them, maybe then would be the time to show a little class - or at least just shut up.I'm OK with the tactic of trying to get under an opponent's skin, but that display was absolutely classless. Link to post Share on other sites
DwayneWayne 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 In the words of my roommate who doesn’t know much about poker…”who is this fat loser…he def gets his women at cost” Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 He should be banned from the WPT.This is twice now in two years he's acted this way.The guy is a fat loser who probably hasn't had se.x with anyone but his kangaroo in yeeeears.Wouldn't a heads up match between him and Hellmuth be armageddon?lol.Seriously though, he makes Hellmuth look like mother Theresa. Tony G. needs to go back to kindergarten and revisit the lesson "how to play with others". Link to post Share on other sites
DwayneWayne 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Hellmuth V. Tong G, that would be sick.I think Tong G V. anyone heads up would be great...Danny Boy, Ivey...Gus Hansen, what about him V. Doyle.The list is end-less....why was he not part of the NBC match play? Link to post Share on other sites
BigMoney74 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I would have thrown this guy the beatin' of his life. It would have been an all day azz whoopin. Not in poker, but a real azz whoopin. I can't imagine the restraint the other players must have to put up with even 10 mins of that jazz. Link to post Share on other sites
padrefan98 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Tony G, is the poster child for mp3 players at poker tables. Man how do you tune a guy out like that without laying into him with a hard left. It made me sick to hear this guy say Im going to rip your heart out, take all of your chips and make you cry like a baby...... thats just wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 He probably is bad for poker, but his antics certainly worked, which is all he seems to care about anyway. He definitely got the guy who came to the final table as the chip leader to change his game. When he raised with 7-6suited, that guy moved in with 9-8suited (way overbetting the pot). He's lucky Tony didn't have a legit hand that time. When you can put the chip leader on tilt enough to do something that dumb, you're doing something right. Link to post Share on other sites
BigMoney74 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I loved watching him pi*s away his chips in the end. Link to post Share on other sites
drocpdp 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 To be deathly honest with you, i love playing against people like that. I have a remarkable skill of keeping my cool with people like that.Some people get angry/annoyed/peeved... That guy had me on the floor laughing...I think he's true to his word when he says it's not personal. I don't think it is. I think that's his way of charging himself up. Of course, he does have to realize that his way doesn't agree with the etiquette of others. But seriously, one of the greatest skills in poker is learning to deal with different psychological profiles. The angry, the drunk/erratic, the ESPN-kid all-in-with-AA-and-everyone-folds, the too-serious-guy-who-yells-at-you-if-you-make-a-draw-despite-the-excellent-pot-odds, the jovial-fake-nice-guy-who-you-know-who-hates-you....Usually, the bad-karma types self-destruct. Typical examples: Mike Matasuow. Tony G too, got too erratic in the end and self-destructed. Usually, they are riding a facade of self-empowerment, and when they win, they feel they psychologically have to maintain that facade to maintain their table image, even when the cards are butt-ugly. That's when i love to get them.But i don't hate them. To be honest with you, (this sounds gay), people like that are evidence of the great variety and spice of humanity. The beauty of different personality types makes me glad to be alive. (hahahah really gay)Love poker, and love these little things that make the game so interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
Speedy Petey 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Tony "D" folded the jacks against Hellmuth, not Tony "G". Link to post Share on other sites
drocpdp 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 also, surinder is the perfect example of how to deal with losing. He just proves, that the great ones know what to do more when they're in dire straits.Anyone can play good when they're ahead.A great heads up battle.Although, Mr. Negreanu's battle with David what's-his-name at the Borgata was defiinitely one for the ages... Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Do you remember that hand when Tony G folded three Jacks against Hellmuth in the WSOP a couple of years ago. Terrible.for one that was TONY D. second Paul Phillips provided proff that that hand could very well have not happened as espn did make up some hands that year and this one could be one of them Link to post Share on other sites
Chaserjim 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 "Wouldn't a heads up match between him and Hellmuth be armageddon?"Man , if they put that up on HBO pay per view, I would definitly pay to see that heads up shit talking fest. I got money on Hellmuth to beat him, regardless that I despise the both.I gotta give a lot of credit to Sindar(spelling?) because he has the patience of Ghandi. Link to post Share on other sites
braminc 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 " im the captain at this table" - tony g"im gonna be the best player in the world" - tony g"im going to destroy you now, i will take ALL your chips their MINE!!" - tony g"the only difference between me and you is you were shaking with fear. im not afraid...." tony g - (just after losing a big hand)hahah, this guy is the most annoying guy on the planet and we all hate him for it. however since that was surely his goal, to be the most annoying possible, congrats to him for "succeeding". but thank god he didnt win the tournament, and i dont even believe in god Link to post Share on other sites
Uppie_ 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 It was fun to watch but got old, i think his when it got heads up he played it the way daniel described the match between Ivey and Sklansky in the national heads up, he just took the poker out because he knew he was over matched and hoped to get lucky. Link to post Share on other sites
heisthejuan 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 He made for great tv, but I would have hit the guy.My favorite part of the show was the interview with Marcel Luske. His accent reminded me so much of Goldmember I was practically pissing myself with laughter Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 when he was on the french final table, maybe season 1 or 2. the one you guys are talking about hasn't been on yet in the UK. i think he was entertaining, and to be fair he made some brave plays and some decent folds.phil laak i tihnk could be just as annoying with all his running around behind the dealer etc. i like watching them both to be honest, make it entertaining for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
ninthgate16 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Do you remember that hand when Tony G folded three Jacks against Hellmuth in the WSOP a couple of years ago. Terrible. for one that was TONY D. second Paul Phillips provided proff that that hand could very well have not happened as espn did make up some hands that year and this one could be one of themUmm is this true? Someone explain. Why would ESPN do that and more importantly how did they get away with it? Link to post Share on other sites
BuzzWorthy 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I think he's true to his word when he says it's not personal. I don't think it is. I think that's his way of charging himself up. Of course, he does have to realize that his way doesn't agree with the etiquette of others. But seriously, one of the greatest skills in poker is learning to deal with different psychological profiles. The angry, the drunk/erratic, the ESPN-kid all-in-with-AA-and-everyone-folds, the too-serious-guy-who-yells-at-you-if-you-make-a-draw-despite-the-excellent-pot-odds, the jovial-fake-nice-guy-who-you-know-who-hates-you....Usually, the bad-karma types self-destruct. Typical examples: Mike Matasuow. Tony G too, got too erratic in the end and self-destructed. Usually, they are riding a facade of self-empowerment, and when they win, they feel they psychologically have to maintain that facade to maintain their table image, even when the cards are butt-ugly. That's when i love to get them.This is a great point - it definitely is not personal, and he is probably charging himself up as much as tilting the table.I also love it when someone self-destructive comes to the table - if you can keep yor cool, it's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time... someone is going to take their money! Link to post Share on other sites
Emptyeye 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I'm not sure about the hand in particular, but someone offered pictoral evidence of the fact that the hand was at the very least spliced together if not faked outright.And apparently what they did was ask the players what they had afterward, and took their word for it. Link to post Share on other sites
lokibeat 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Yes he's annoying.Yes he crossed the line a couple of times (once specifically waving a big flat tile at Surinder)But,Just like Josh Arieh's performance at WSOP, without being there, you don't know what's really happening.When he busted the online qualifier, he seemed genuinely apologetic (easy to be when you bust someone)It works only if you let it affect you.He's a decent player. He survived a top class two hundred person field to make the final table twice in three years. He must be doing something right.That bluff 84 vs q9 when Surinder had top pair was classic and a great play.I thought calling Surinder's All in with J8 was okay if he put him on small PP which is what he had and ultimately he had him covered at the time. He did seem to lose steam after a while which I suspect is his downfall in other tournaments. He can't keep up the act long enough.I'd love to hear if Daniel's thoughts about him. Don't want a profile, we don't see him enough to warrant that, but I'd love a Pro's perspective (other than Luske). Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Do you remember that hand when Tony G folded three Jacks against Hellmuth in the WSOP a couple of years ago. Terrible. for one that was TONY D. second Paul Phillips provided proff that that hand could very well have not happened as espn did make up some hands that year and this one could be one of themUmm is this true? Someone explain. Why would ESPN do that and more importantly how did they get away with it?Paul Phillips wrote about it in a blog Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I thought calling Surinder's All in with J8 was okay if he put him on small PPDon't give him that much credit. Calling that all in with J-8 was a stupid play all the way around and not even close to being okay. You can't put someone on a small pocket pair like that. If the guy has a mid-high pocket pair, he could easily play it the same way; especially because Tony G likes to call big bets with marginal hands, like J-8 for instance, in hopes of getting lucky. Besides, he was still behind against a small pocket pair. His best situation was that he was behind in the hand, but not by too much. There is no way anyone can give him credit for being dumb enough to call that all in with J-8 just because he was lucky enough to only be a slight dog when the money went in.On the flipside though, I did kind of like his play where he pressured Surinder into folding top pair with the triple-barreled bluff. It was really gutsy, or stupid, I dunno which. Link to post Share on other sites
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