Sng Placement Rate.

[NickTheKid 0]

I've heard 45% is considered good, could someone break it down to what is generally an average - very good win % of SnG placements?

[rogerwilco 0]

I've heard 45% is considered good, could someone break it down to what is generally an average - very good win % of SnG placements?

You are talking about ITM - the percentage of times you finish in the money, right? That number is not as relevant as the ROI - the amount of money you can expect to win from every sng you play in the long run.edit: average obviously is [number of places paid] divided by [number of entrants] The point is, 45% ITM sounds very good, but if you always finish just-in-the-money you are still not making a lot of money...here is an article about that: http://www.bet-the-pot.com/sng-and-br-stats-page18.html

[TheCorporation3 0]

You are talking about ITM - the percentage of times you finish in the money, right? That number is not as relevant as the ROI - the amount of money you can expect to win from every sng you play in the long run.edit: average obviously is [number of places paid] divided by [number of entrants] The point is, 45% ITM sounds very good, but if you always finish just-in-the-money you are still not making a lot of money...here is an article about that: http://www.bet-the-pot.com/sng-and-br-stats-page18.html

Good point because I have played 100 sng's and while my win % is relatively low, I am nearly 50% on cashing in the 200+15 (7 for 18), while in the 20+2 or 10+1 I am cashing only 2 in 10.

[NickTheKid 0]

You are talking about ITM - the percentage of times you finish in the money, right? That number is not as relevant as the ROI - the amount of money you can expect to win from every sng you play in the long run.edit: average obviously is [number of places paid] divided by [number of entrants] The point is, 45% ITM sounds very good, but if you always finish just-in-the-money you are still not making a lot of money...here is an article about that: http://www.bet-the-pot.com/sng-and-br-stats-page18.html

Oh I only wonder because I whipped up a pretty sweet spreadsheet of my placement %ages, and how many times I get in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, on a SnG, have the buyins for EACH one, NET profit, total spent, total earned. Thanks again!

[TheCorporation3 0]

I know I am no good at SNG's, as I have pointed this out many times, but here are my stats. Can anyone tell me how bad my ROI is? LOL, Like I said, I know they aren't spectacular results, probalby terrible, but I was just curious. Thanks in advance...Wins=25Losses=82$200 Table: 7 wins / 8 losses / 46.67% wins $109 Table: 1 wins / 5 losses / 16.67% wins $100 Table: 5 wins / 19 losses / 20.83% wins $77 Table: 0 wins / 1 losses / 0% wins $55 Table: 0 wins / 3 losses / 0% wins $50 Table: 5 wins / 20 losses / 20% wins $33 Table: 2 wins / 5 losses / 28.57% wins $30 Table: 2 wins / 9 losses / 18.18% wins $22 Table: 0 wins / 2 losses / 0% wins $20 Table: 0 wins / 3 losses / 0% wins $11 Table: 1 wins / 2 losses / 33.33% wins $10 Table: 1 wins / 3 losses / 25% wins $5 Table: 1 wins / 2 losses / 33.3% wins I don't even think these are accurate either, because I thought I had done better, but if you look at my stats, they are crappier in the lower sngs (sometimes I would let my friends play on my screen name) and they are actually DECENT at the higher ones. Would you need more info?

[M101A1-105 0]

I know I am no good at SNG's, as I have pointed this out many times, but here are my stats. Can anyone tell me how bad my ROI is? LOL, Like I said, I know they aren't spectacular results, probalby terrible, but I was just curious. Thanks in advance...Wins=25Losses=82$200 Table: 7 wins / 8 losses / 46.67% wins $109 Table: 1 wins / 5 losses / 16.67% wins $100 Table: 5 wins / 19 losses / 20.83% wins $77 Table: 0 wins / 1 losses / 0% wins $55 Table: 0 wins / 3 losses / 0% wins $50 Table: 5 wins / 20 losses / 20% wins $33 Table: 2 wins / 5 losses / 28.57% wins $30 Table: 2 wins / 9 losses / 18.18% wins $22 Table: 0 wins / 2 losses / 0% wins $20 Table: 0 wins / 3 losses / 0% wins $11 Table: 1 wins / 2 losses / 33.33% wins $10 Table: 1 wins / 3 losses / 25% wins $5 Table: 1 wins / 2 losses / 33.3% wins I don't even think these are accurate either, because I thought I had done better, but if you look at my stats, they are crappier in the lower sngs (sometimes I would let my friends play on my screen name) and they are actually DECENT at the higher ones. Would you need more info?

What do you consider a "win"? Is this ITM or last one standing?

[TheCorporation3 0]

What do you consider a "win"? Is this ITM or last one standing?

Just a cash, yeah I figured you needed to know if I actually won, or what place I got, oh well, thanks for the help though.

[CrazyJoe 0]

Just a cash, yeah I figured you needed to know if I actually won, or what place I got, oh well, thanks for the help though.

of course you need to say what place you got and how much it pays.. do you know what ROI is?

[The Enforcer 0]

I know I am no good at SNG's, as I have pointed this out many times, but here are my stats. Can anyone tell me how bad my ROI is? LOL, Like I said, I know they aren't spectacular results, probalby terrible, but I was just curious. Thanks in advance...Wins=25Losses=82$200 Table: 7 wins / 8 losses / 46.67% wins $109 Table: 1 wins / 5 losses / 16.67% wins $100 Table: 5 wins / 19 losses / 20.83% wins $77 Table: 0 wins / 1 losses / 0% wins $55 Table: 0 wins / 3 losses / 0% wins $50 Table: 5 wins / 20 losses / 20% wins $33 Table: 2 wins / 5 losses / 28.57% wins $30 Table: 2 wins / 9 losses / 18.18% wins $22 Table: 0 wins / 2 losses / 0% wins $20 Table: 0 wins / 3 losses / 0% wins $11 Table: 1 wins / 2 losses / 33.33% wins $10 Table: 1 wins / 3 losses / 25% wins $5 Table: 1 wins / 2 losses / 33.3% wins I don't even think these are accurate either, because I thought I had done better, but if you look at my stats, they are crappier in the lower sngs (sometimes I would let my friends play on my screen name) and they are actually DECENT at the higher ones. Would you need more info?

TP/MM

[TheCorporation3 0]

of course you need to say what place you got and how much it pays.. do you know what ROI is?

Well for ROI I know you need to know that, but I was just posting them up to see if people thought I really sucked or if I was actually ok at SNG's. Thanks Joe. I didnt do to bad in the 200 and the 100 and the 50.

[chgocubs99 0]

Good point because I have played 100 sng's and while my win % is relatively low, I am nearly 50% on cashing in the 200+15 (7 for 18), while in the 20+2 or 10+1 I am cashing only 2 in 10.

The sample sizes are so small the whole discussion is pretty much pointless.

[TheCorporation3 0]

The sample sizes are so small the whole discussion is pretty much pointless.

I was just pointing out that I did much better in the higher buy in ones because when I play a stupid 10 or 20 sng I just go all in and donk away the chips, but in the 200 I play like its real money. Does anyone else have that problem? And yes, I know the sample size is too small, thanks. And yes I know that even 10 or 20 is still "real" money.

[chgocubs99 0]

I was just pointing out that I did much better in the higher buy in ones because when I play a stupid 10 or 20 sng I just go all in and donk away the chips, but in the 200 I play like its real money. Does anyone else have that problem? And yes, I know the sample size is too small, thanks. And yes I know that even 10 or 20 is still "real" money.

You did not. You're results are inconclusive. It would be like a basketball player saying they did better in the first 2 minutes of the game than the next two, because he scored 4 points in the first two minutes against a teams starters, then didn't score in the next two after they subbed guys in and he "stopped trying". OK, it's still only 4 minutes of basketball.

[chgocubs99 0]

Reply to this immediately Corporation.

[psujohn 0]

You did not. You're results are inconclusive. It would be like a basketball player saying they did better in the first 2 minutes of the game than the next two, because he scored 4 points in the first two minutes against a teams starters, then didn't score in the next two after they subbed guys in and he "stopped trying". OK, it's still only 4 minutes of basketball.

You're missing his whole point. You see it's easier to beat better players than to beat weak players because you can put better players on a hand and weak players are likely to be limping with T5o.

[chgocubs99 0]

You're missing his whole point. You see it's easier to beat better players than to beat weak players because you can put better players on a hand and weak players are likely to be limping with T5o.

Your sarcasm is understood but Corporation is smarter than that. He is trying to imply that he isn't trying at the lower levels, which I understand and may in fact be true. But saying he is "better" at 200's is simply going over the line.

[psujohn 0]

Your sarcasm is understood but Corporation is smarter than that. He is trying to imply that he isn't trying at the lower levels, which I understand and may in fact be true. But saying he is "better" at 200's is simply going over the line.

Unless by "that" you mean a potted fern I'm going to have to disagree with you.