Nelson 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Question: Which tournament pro, that gets the least/no TV/Media coverage, is the best you've seen or is highly underrated?While i love hearing about those that we have come to know from TV, WSOP, and 2+2 for a while now. I'm interested in which "unknowns" you feel are dangerous out there. :twisted: Anyone else have any ideas on some?Thanks and best of luck (as long as i'm not in the pot). :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
darksung 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 What's the point of asking the name of an unknown if you can't even relate to it when/(most likely)if you get an answer? Link to post Share on other sites
richgambler 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 John Juanda is THE most underrated tournament player on the planet. He gets little to no tv coverage, but man, his results over the last few years are just plain sick. I'm sure DN would agree wholeheartedly. Link to post Share on other sites
jayistheman 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 juanda has made quite a few televised tables. he is regarded as one of the best in the worldgranded there is no segment of "the nuts" on him, but i think he's doing fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Chau Giang should probably be at the top of that list.JC Tran too Link to post Share on other sites
richgambler 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I agree. Go back and look at the question, if you will. Link to post Share on other sites
richgambler 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Chau Giang doesnt play a whole lot of tourneys.....hes more of a cash game killer. Although, I would agree that he is highly underrated. Link to post Share on other sites
Erik67 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I heard about this guy from a small town in the Mojave Desert who's been killing the Wed. and Fri. Bellagio tounraments. The former head of a Vegas sports book has called him "the best natural card player since the kid Unger". Doyle Brunson was quoted, "With a little more discipline, he could get 20+ bracelets." Link to post Share on other sites
rollito 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 daniel wrote an article titiled asian poker players that explains they are highly underrated and underpublicised but are some of the best poker players in the world. I think this is very true and think that they will continue to go unnoticed since some can't speak english and most just aren't the type to scream and yell for the cameras......just thought they should get a shout out while they continue to quietly do well in the poker world Link to post Share on other sites
richgambler 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Very interesting....where did you hear about this player?? I'd like to find out more....any links?? Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Chau Giang doesnt play a whole lot of tourneys.....hes more of a cash game killer. Although, I would agree that he is highly underrated.Chau did all this in one year.Go ahead, take it back.I won't mind. :-) 23-Feb-05 World Poker Tour Invitational - No Limit Hold'em2005 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 5th $ 10,000 24-Jan-05 $ 10,000 World Poker Open Championship Event - No Limit Hold'emThe Sixth Annual Jack Binion World Poker Open, Tunica 2nd $ 773,448 29-Jul-04 $ 10,000 No Limit Hold'em Final Day2004 Mirage Poker Showdown, Las Vegas 9th $ 43,211 28-Jul-04 $ 2,000 No Limit Hold'em2004 Mirage Poker Showdown, Las Vegas 7th $ 11,980 01-Jul-04 $ 3,000 No Limit Hold'emFesta al Lago II, Las Vegas 4th $ 22,478 17-May-04 $ 5,000 Limit Hold'em35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 17th $ 8,000 13-May-04 $ 5,000 Seven Card Stud World Championship35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 10th $ 12,180 07-May-04 $ 5,000 No-Limit Deuce to Seven Draw35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 5th $ 51,835 29-Apr-04 $ 2,000 Pot Limit Omaha35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 1st $ 187,920 Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 its one of his cardplayer articlesthere are more top tier asian card players than there are american ones (in my opinion)theres a link to the article on the front page of the website in his cardplayer archive Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 From DN's profile of Paul Phillips: "Paul is probably the single most underrated player in the game today. It would be difficult to come up with 12 to 15 names that have had more success in tournament poker than Paul despite the fact that he plays a limited schedule. "He also says that Juanda is "arugably" the most underrated player. Link to post Share on other sites
richgambler 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I heard about this guy  from a small town in the Mojave Desert who's been killing the Wed. and Fri. Bellagio tounraments.  The former head of a Vegas sports book has called him "the best natural card player since the kid Unger".  Doyle Brunson was quoted, "With a little more discipline, he could get 20+ bracelets."Thanks, but I was referring to this....anyone have any other info???? Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 and with paul he said probablydaniel likes those words.I don't think he feels that his celebrity really allows him to make definite statements about other players.I don't blame him. Link to post Share on other sites
Erik67 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Very interesting....where did you hear about this player?? Â I'd like to find out more....any links??He plays under many aliases to keep under the radar. He's also known to watch King of the Hill reruns on his laptop when he plays. Link to post Share on other sites
rollito 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I heard about this guy  from a small town in the Mojave Desert who's been killing the Wed. and Fri. Bellagio tounraments.  The former head of a Vegas sports book has called him "the best natural card player since the kid Unger".  Doyle Brunson was quoted, "With a little more discipline, he could get 20+ bracelets."Thanks, but I was referring to this....anyone have any other info????if you haven't noticed yet the guy who posted this is from mojave desert and has a king of the hill avatar Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I played some 5/10 no-limit on fulltilt with John Juanda last night. Real nice guy and i think he won every big pot he was involved with. His tourney results speak for themselves if you look it up. Plus I loved when he moved allin in the dark again DN, maybe not wise but I loved. Link to post Share on other sites
richgambler 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 LMAO......u had me goin for a minute there.....good one Link to post Share on other sites
Comatose_Soul 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Didn't Daniel cover this somehwere once?I remember him talking about John Juanda and most Asian players not getting much TV love, just can't remember if it was a post or journal entry, or maybe even a profile. :? Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I find Chau really funny when he's on tv. He was very affable(I love using words from curb your enthusiasm) and has a quick wit, not to mention a big ego(but what good player doesn't have one) and he was funny on GSN WPPA. David Pham was the first name that came to my mind when I read the first post. I think Allen Cunningham is very underrated Link to post Share on other sites
rollito 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I find Chau really funny when he's on tv. He was very affable(I love using words from curb your enthusiasm) and has a quick wit, not to mention a big ego(but what good player doesn't have one) and he was funny on GSN WPPA. David Pham was the first name that came to my mind when I read the first post. I think Allen Cunningham is very underratedI first thought david pham as well, but anyone who reads dn's articles knows about how he almost crept up and stole the player of the year award from him, while dn was worried about juanda......but yeah mainstream i think david pham is the one Link to post Share on other sites
Diabolical 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Scotty Nguyen ia very underrated!! I've been keeping track of some poker pros before it was popular to even keep track. If you go back to when Card Player first started to have the "Player of the Year" rankings, which was about 6-7 years ago, you would find that Scotty is always in the top 20 for every year. And i believe that 5 out of the 7 years he was in the top 10. Back in 2001 at Commerce, i ran into Scotty in my favarite bar and i talked to him for about 30 miniutes. I told him that i started keeping track of alot of the pros, and i knew his record in tourneys for the past few years. I went on to say that i felt he was ranked 5th in the world at the time behind Tony Ma, T J Cloutier, Men The Master and Phil Hellmuth. ( This was before the Poker Boom and the young guns.)He was impressed with all the stats i knew and he bought me a beer and we talked about poker. He was very nice and before he left, he put down another 20 spot for more beers and i told him thanks but i don't want to talk to you for free beer! And he said that when he was starting out, things were very tough and now that he has made it, he wants to give back. I smiled and thanked him and said before he left," Hey Scotty, I respect and admire you, ................ but if i see you at my table, I'll have to take you out." and he laughed and said "Lets do it Baby!" Link to post Share on other sites
troutsmart 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Based on tournament results over the past couple years, I'd have to say JC Tran would qualify as one who is relatively unknown and has shown great results. Daniel speaks highly of him as well. He'd likely be one of the favorites to win a big tournament when talking of those who "fly under the radar". Link to post Share on other sites
BSUrugby240 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 ^^^^That is awesome, Scotty is one of my favorites to watch play. Seems like he'd be a fun guy to have at the table. Link to post Share on other sites
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