jayvegas420 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Your Chances of Flopping... (Assume you have Ad - Kd in the hole) A - A - K / K - K - A 1,088 - 1 2 diamonds & A or K 58.4 - 1 2 diamonds 8.1 - 1 10 - J - Q 310 - 1 10d - Jd - Qd 19,599 - 1 3 of another suit 21.8 - 1 Anything with an A or K 2.08 - 1 (Assume you have Ks - Kc in the hole) K - K & any other card 407 - 1 K - A - A 1,632 - 1 A - A - A 4,899 - 1 K & smaller pair 147 - 1 3 clubs or 3 spades 43.5 - 1 3 diamonds or 3 hearts 33.3 - 1 Anything with 1 K 7.51 - 1Hope it makes sense.I can't tell if this is a complete joke in it's entirety or if some scenerio odds are accurate.How could it be four times more likely to flop quads with PP than the 2nd nut FH or 10 times more likely to flop the highest possible full house?I will try to provide the link tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
76169 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 (Assume you have Ks - Kc in the hole) K - K & any other card 407 - 1 K - A - A 1,632 - 1 A - A - A 4,899 - 1 How could it be four times more likely to flop quads with PP than the 2nd nut FH or 10 times more likely to flop the highest possible full house?That's the odds of flopping kings full of aces only... not any kings full... Link to post Share on other sites
sholden 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 For quads you need to flop: Kh Kd ?This can be done 6 ways:Kh Kd ?Kh ? KdKd Kh ?Kd ? Kh? Kh Kd? Kd KhSince the ? could be any of the 48 remaining cards thast gives:48*6 = 228 flops which give you quads.For kings for of aces You need to flop one of:Kh As AcKh As AdKh As AhKh Ac AdKh Ac AhKh Ad AhKd As AcKd As AdKd As AhKd Ac AdKd Ac AhKd Ad AhBut each of those can be ordered 6 ways (as shown above with the quads).So 12*6 = 72.Since 228 > 72 you are more likely to flop quads than King full of aces.You could also do the more common, probability calculations, but when there's a small number of possibilities just enumerating them all works... Link to post Share on other sites
quadaces 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What are the chances of flopping the A if you hold the A ? Link to post Share on other sites
lordofelt 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What are the chances of flopping the A if you hold the A ?Zero, unless you're on pokerstars then.... its still zero cause it doesn't come till the river Link to post Share on other sites
DaBruins 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 those odds look right to me Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 If I have KK, the odds of flopping at least one ace is 100 % Link to post Share on other sites
aknapp1112 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 If I have KK, the odds of flopping at least one ace is 100 %Amen to that. Link to post Share on other sites
jayvegas420 0 Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 For quads you need to flop: Kh Kd ?This can be done 6 ways:Kh Kd ?Kh ? KdKd Kh ?Kd ? Kh? Kh Kd? Kd KhSince the ? could be any of the 48 remaining cards thast gives:48*6 = 228 flops which give you quads.For kings for of aces You need to flop one of:Kh As AcKh As AdKh As AhKh Ac AdKh Ac AhKh Ad AhKd As AcKd As AdKd As AhKd Ac AdKd Ac AhKd Ad AhBut each of those can be ordered 6 ways (as shown above with the quads).So 12*6 = 72.Since 228 > 72 you are more likely to flop quads than King full of aces.You could also do the more common, probability calculations, but when there's a small number of possibilities just enumerating them all works...Still completely lost because in the 1st equation you provide you fail to account for all the other possible flops where you'll miss hitting a king all together.I can't see how your odds of flopping kings is 1 in 228 flops.if you are trying to say that there are 228 possible flops that can provide quads for a pocket pair of kings, I understand that but that still convince me that your odds of flopping quads WITH ANY PARTICULAR PAIR is 407 to 1. Link to post Share on other sites
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