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And now my cynicism has washed away and I've left myself vulnerable because I'm officially excited about the bears again. God damnit o thought I was off that narcotic

Wow! Overtime thriller, baby! Osweiller for President!!!

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You can thank Hester for one, The referee for one, and defensive pass interference for one. So thanks to Cutler for 2x.
Yeah but he still did not play great (though that missed PI call was BAD). His receivers dont get a lot of separation and his o-line is a sieve. At least the defense re-appeared.
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Yeah but he still did not play great (though that missed PI call was BAD). His receivers dont get a lot of separation and his o-line is a sieve. At least the defense re-appeared.
This week...
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You can thank Hester for one, The referee for one, and defensive pass interference for one. So thanks to Cutler for 2x.
I only sort of saw the highlights. Which one was the referee one? Regarding the pass interference, doesn't the defensive player have a right to go after the ball as well? It looked to me like the defensive player just got there first. But, like I said, I only sort of saw the highlights.
At least they got to play against a horrible offense.
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There was a play where Hester was coming across the middle and the ref ended up right in front of him a few feet before he got to the spot where Cutler put the ball, and it went to a SF player instead.I think the PI was because the defensive player knocked the offensive player off his line, which is a big no-no.I agree Cutler didn't have a great game, but he got them downfield on most drives, those 2 redzone INT's were bad and mostly on him, but he's putting drives together.Regardless, he is absolutely the least of the problems on offense. You could put any QB in the league back there and there's no way we're better than .500.

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He's still very young. We have a terrible offensive line, and a terrible wr corps. I've tried to be as open minded as I could about this season, given those things... willing to write off the whole season, should it be necessary, because I think he is such a stud talent. But... I'm begging to get this sinking dread in my stomach that the jay cutler trade is going to be one of the biggest debacles of all time, like epic. I'm trying to ignore it, trying to give him time. But jesus. ****ing. Christ.

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He's still very young. We have a terrible offensive line, and a terrible wr corps. I've tried to be as open minded as I could about this season, given those things... willing to write off the whole season, should it be necessary, because I think he is such a stud talent. But... I'm begging to get this sinking dread in my stomach that the jay cutler trade is going to be one of the biggest debacles of all time, like epic. I'm trying to ignore it, trying to give him time. But jesus. ****ing. Christ.
But he will be 28 before he has a real offensive coordinator. Culter is starting to get the Lovie "deer in the headlights look".Lots of holes to fill. I think the biggest question will be how long Angelo is around. The talent evaluation is pathetic.If Lovie doesn't make the playoffs next year, it's back to a whole new coaching staff and starting from ground 0.
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Where has this Cutler been?
well when you have no running game, bad O-line, and your best receiver was a DB 2 years ago, it's hard to do a lot. not that he hasn't made some really bad decisions on his own. i havent seen many bears games being in the south, but on paper i'd guess that's a big part of it. A whole offseason to work with his young recievers and TEs and beef up the line a bit and the Bears can have a really good offense. the guy was a Pro Bowl QB. since the super bowl a few years ago the defense has been terrible every game i've seen, if I were a Bears fan id be much more worried about fixing that.
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well when you have no running game, bad O-line, and your best receiver was a DB 2 years ago, it's hard to do a lot. not that he hasn't made some really bad decisions on his own. i havent seen many bears games being in the south, but on paper i'd guess that's a big part of it. A whole offseason to work with his young recievers and TEs and beef up the line a bit and the Bears can have a really good offense. the guy was a Pro Bowl QB. since the super bowl a few years ago the defense has been terrible every game i've seen, if I were a Bears fan id be much more worried about fixing that.
"Now, granted..I don't really have any first hand knowledge of what I just spoke of, but..."Sorry man. Just kinda funny.
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Press conference scheduled for today at 2.My thoughts:Lovie will be staying, however will give up D coordinator job.Turner and Pep Hamilton get launched.Bears will again hire coordinators with no prior experience and go cheap.

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From the Chicago Tribune:The Bears have fired offensive coordinator Ron Turner, as well as offensive line coach Harry Hiestand, quarterbacks coach Pep Hamilton and tight ends coach Rob Boras, according to a league source. The Bears will keep receivers coach Darryl Drake and running backs coach Tim Spencer. Drake's receivers were the most criticized group coming into the 2009 season, but performed much better than expected. Spencer had to deal with Matt Forte running on a bad knee and inconsistent play from the offensive line.Also, sources differ on the role that assistant Rod Marinelli will play. While one league source expected Marinelli to become defensive coordinator -- and he is believed to have discussed the post with head coach Lovie Smith on Monday -- it appears the Bears will look elsewhere to fill the position.Turner's dismissal was expected in light of the team's offensive struggles during a 7-9 season. He still will be regarded as one of the most productive offensive coordinators in the team's history after helping the Bears reach Super Bowl XLI. But Turner's fifth consecutive year as the team's offensive coordinator (and ninth total) went south despite the addition of quarterback Jay Cutler.Turner was one of the first assistants the team met with Tuesday morning. Turner's offense finished 23rd in the NFL (310.3 yards per game) and 29th in rushing offense (93.3 yards per game) this season. During the Super Bowl season, the Bears were tied for 15th in yards per game (324.9) and tied for second with 26.7 points per game. The cold relationship between Turner and Cutler did not help Turner's situationHiestand, who declined to comment about his dismissal, figured to be gone if Turner was no longer in the mix. The offensive line didn't make much improvement from last season despite the additions of Orlando Pace, Frank Omiyale, and Kevin Shaffer, although Omiyale, Shaffer, and Chris Williams showed progress at the end of the season.Meanwhile, Joe Cullen, Marinell's defensive line coach when Marinelli was the head coach of the Detroit Lions, was spotted at Halas Hall last week and could take over the Bears' defensive line if Marinelli is promoted to coordinator.In 2006, the Lions suspended Cullen after he was arrested twice, once on a drunk-driving charge and the other on a charge of driving naked through a fast-food drive-through lane.

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Meanwhile, Joe Cullen, Marinell's defensive line coach when Marinelli was the head coach of the Detroit Lions, was spotted at Halas Hall last week and could take over the Bears' defensive line if Marinelli is promoted to coordinator.In 2006, the Lions suspended Cullen after he was arrested twice, once on a drunk-driving charge and the other on a charge of driving naked through a fast-food drive-through lane.
OMG YES!
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http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4799863
It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday.Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears.
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