Belly Buster Straight Oop Ugliness Turned Pretty Turned Ugly

[MasterLJ 0]

I'm at work so I can't convert the original hand.No PT read on villain but I got a strong read on the flop (will disclose)...Both have full stacks.Hero has: 57os in the SB ($27)Villain is the BB ($25)I consider myself an excellent player out of the blinds, so I guess I'm trying to inoculate =P. In my career I am -0.04 BB/hand out of the SB and -0.17 out of the BB. This includes a time where I didn't know how to play from them, so I feel I'm very strong here.2 people enter the pot before me. In times like these I will just about always call with gappers and connectors (non-suited), so I comlpete ($0.15 into $0.85). BB checks. Read: BB has been around for 20 or so hands so it hasn't been displayed to PokerAceHUD, but he's stayed out of the fray for the most part and has just rolled over every time I've raised his blind. From all accounts thus far, he is weak.Flop: 964 rainbowBeautiful, I have a double belly buster. Arguably the best kind of straight draw there is since it's hardest to see.I check, villain fires out $1.05, folds around to me... Hero??My action here was debatable. I literally let my timer run down here. If someone else had called, it would have been simple. My thoughts were that this is a weak player showing strength and I have one of the most deceptive draws in poker. Before my timer expires, I call.Turn: 8 (completes a rainbow 4-different suited board)Pure sex. I check to him, knowing he will bet here. He bets $2.50. Hero??I chose to raise him to $7 here. He tanks and eventually callsRiver: 6Hero...?Obviously, my biggest mistake in the hand was on the turn. Knowing your opponent has a strong holding (although I can't define how strong it is, simply that our opponent thinks it's strong) and not pushing. It's a small leak, but a leak none the less, I always feel compelled to stay within the confines of the pot-size when making bets and adhere to the 3xraise rull when raising someone. I suppose this forfeits the greatest advantage a player has in NL.My river play was that I lead the river for $9. He min-raises. Can we make an argument for folding here? I have about $11 left facing $9 to call.

[semaj550 0]

I have a hard time believing that be boated up on the river.Would he bet the pot on the flop with a set after being checked into? I kinda doubt it so I don't put him on 99, 66 or 44. I feel that a PP like 88 or better would raise preflop as well.The turn could mean a lot of things...A9, 98. 88 is possible but I would have expected a reraise when you showed some strength on the turn.I figure he could be holding A9, A6, 98, maybe 64. 44 is possible and 66 or 88 aren't out of the question but unlikely.Quite frankly I call the river and hope he flips over A6. His range is a bit too large and the odds are a bit too good to fold imo.

[MasterLJ 0]

I have a hard time believing that be boated up on the river.Would he bet the pot on the flop with a set after being checked into? I kinda doubt it so I don't put him on 99, 66 or 44. I feel that a PP like 88 or better would raise preflop as well.The turn could mean a lot of things...A9, 98. 88 is possible but I would have expected a reraise when you showed some strength on the turn.I figure he could be holding A9, A6, 98, maybe 64. 44 is possible and 66 or 88 aren't out of the question but unlikely.Quite frankly I call the river and hope he flips over A6. His range is a bit too large and the odds are a bit too good to fold imo.

Ok, how do you handle the turn and do you lead the river though?

[semaj550 0]

Ok, how do you handle the turn and do you lead the river though?

IMO, turn is fine as played.I like your lead on the river, about half the pot is likely to get called by a hand like A6 or 98 and probably scares off a bluff from a hand like 87. The reason I think leading the river is important is that it should prevent a bluff from a busted draw or TPTK kind of hand. I would feel more comfortable if there was a potential flush draw that missed but the more I think about it the more I think he could have 87. His river raise, like you said, probably means he at least thinks his hand is very strong but I have a hard enough time putting him on a hand that actually beats ours that, given the odds, I make the call.Now that I'm thinking about this hand again we probably shouldn't discount the possibility of a big PP either. That consideration makes the river lead even more appropriate.

[BrnngLeaves 0]

I'm a bit confused. If you hold 57 on a 469 board, you have an open-ended draw, not a double belly buster.

[MasterLJ 0]

I'm a bit confused. If you hold 57 on a 469 board, you have an open-ended draw, not a double belly buster.

Hmm... good point. In any case it's terminology. I think I remembered the hand correctly, in which case my terminology is wrong. It's still a well-concealed straight draw.

[semaj550 0]

Hmm... good point. In any case it's terminology. I think I remembered the hand correctly, in which case my terminology is wrong. It's still a well-concealed straight draw.

You're open ended to the 7/8 high straights but if you make the 8 high you've got a 9 high. So you've really caught an inside straight to the 9.But I'm just being a technical ass.