holdemily 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 after being down three ****ing nights in a row, full tilt comes back up with people playing cap nl games.wtf is no limit cap, and how can it be no limit if there's a cap? i'm lost Link to post Share on other sites
....Ian.... 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 cap= max mount you can lose in one hand Link to post Share on other sites
NOFX_PUNK 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 cap= max mount you can lose in one handMe likeeee... Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Just pulled it up to have a look . I saw 1 hand. 2/4 NL ($120 cap)UTG limps UTG +1 raises to $182 calls UTG re-raises to cap ($120)2 calls UTG shows QQcaller 1 shows AJscaller 2 shows A5h Link to post Share on other sites
NOFX_PUNK 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Just pulled it up to have a look . I saw 1 hand. 2/4 NL ($120 cap)UTG limps UTG +1 raises to $182 calls UTG re-raises to cap ($120)2 calls UTG shows QQcaller 1 shows AJscaller 2 shows A5hThis sounds to me like a good investment, u get your money in with the best of it but when u get internet suckouted u only lose $120....Plus there's a cap in the big game, so by playing 2/4 cap, you are basically a high stakes pro!Just another thought here but couldn't this benefit those people amongst us who like to tilt away their whole roll above their limits? Think about it, Scenario A: You get drunk, you think, I can take down 3/6, u load a table, sit with a grand and lose it in one hand.....Scenario B: You get drunk, you think, I can take down 3/6, u load a table, sit with a grand and lose it in ten hands.....I know I would like to last those 9 more hands and see if I can't TP/MM! Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Cap Games = Weak tight fish heaven. Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 my local casino plays 2-3 blinds with a $200 cap. The problem is that the math gets funky in raised pots. Lets say someone pops it to $15 preflop and it is raised to $50 preflop and the flop is seen bhy 3 players. With $150 in the pot and a max bet of $200 people correctly chase all kinds of hands. I hate it, personally. Link to post Share on other sites
Acesfull1208 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 This is sort of modeled after the Bellagio's big game, the their NL games, they place a $200,000 cap on any one hand. Link to post Share on other sites
dereeekho 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 With the cap set at 30BB, there is no incentive to play speculative hands. Instead, the cap should be set at 50BB at least. With the cap being so low, implied odds has been taken out of play, which renders the essesence of NL games. Link to post Share on other sites
benhoug 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 This is sort of modeled after the Bellagio's big game, the their NL games, they place a $200,000 cap on any one hand.It's $100K cap, $150K if someone puts out a straddle. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 With the cap set at 30BB, there is no incentive to play speculative hands. Instead, the cap should be set at 50BB at least. With the cap being so low, implied odds has been taken out of play, which renders the essesence of NL games.I agree that the cap seems very low. Is it approximately relative to the Big Game? Is 30bb the regular-sized cap? Link to post Share on other sites
koolromeo 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 why would anyone want to play 2-4nl with a cap of $120? if i have pocket sixes and have to call a raise of 4x the big blind, and all i can win is $120 , i would much rather be playing a regular $100 no limit game where i can see the flop for $4 as opposed to $16. your max win is only $20 more, but you saved $12 tring to hit your set. Link to post Share on other sites
Tiltinagain 973 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 my local casino plays 2-3 blinds with a $200 cap. The problem is that the math gets funky in raised pots. Lets say someone pops it to $15 preflop and it is raised to $50 preflop and the flop is seen bhy 3 players. With $150 in the pot and a max bet of $200 people correctly chase all kinds of hands. I hate it, personally. Not to hijack the OP's thread..... But you need to be playing at Deuces Wild in Auburn...very nice game and no cap!! There's a $200 max buy in then a $500 and sometimes a $1000 game going most nights. Very good staff too. my .02 Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Cap Games = Weak tight fish heaven.You rang ? Link to post Share on other sites
Alex916F 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 is this just a way to slow the donks from losing all their money quickly so they can pull more rake??? those are my thoughts ont he subject. i know a lot of local cardrooms put a cap because they dont want ppl going busto so quickly so they dont have a game going for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 see they already took down the cap plo games. 30bb is pretty low for a cap. Link to post Share on other sites
Vyszion 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Also don't know if anyone noticed but Howard Lederer has a chat at 9 on cap games, don't know how much is going to be said about it though. People tend to ask retarded questions =P.Ugh, and I was playing it wrong at first, I thought it was the max that could go into the pot each betting round, confusing the hell out of me when I was playing it =P. Link to post Share on other sites
EmOEmU 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 anyone else noticed they put $500/$1000 blinds capped omaha and holdem games. totally crazy Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Cap Games = Weak tight fish heaven.Quite the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites
aadams_22 3 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 after being down three ****ing nights in a rowFull Tilt wasn't down last night, and hasn't been for the past few nights Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 my local casino plays 2-3 blinds with a $200 cap. The problem is that the math gets funky in raised pots. Lets say someone pops it to $15 preflop and it is raised to $50 preflop and the flop is seen bhy 3 players. With $150 in the pot and a max bet of $200 people correctly chase all kinds of hands. I hate it, personally.Dang, that does suck, never thought about it like that, because I don't normally play cap games, but looka here...Say $150 is in the pot (after preflop raising), then they would have to call $200, on the flop, not even getting 2 to 1. But then on the turn there is $550 in the pot and they have to call $200, then they are getting than 3.75 to 1 on their money!? And thats if the guy "max" bets. But you know what, most guys buy in for $200 in those games, because there is a cap on the buy in too, so i doubt it would get this far with $200 bets on each street, but anyway...Even though on the river you are 25/75 to hit a flush draw, and even though his implied odds suck a little bit more now because he knows he can't take his whole stack, only $200. It is correct to call even the "max" bet. Sucks to be you, playing at that Casino lol Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJoe 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Dang, that does suck, never thought about it like that, because I don't normally play cap games, but looka here...Say $150 is in the pot (after preflop raising), then they would have to call $200, on the flop, not even getting 2 to 1. But then on the turn there is $550 in the pot and they have to call $200, then they are getting than 3.75 to 1 on their money!? And thats if the guy "max" bets. But you know what, most guys buy in for $200 in those games, because there is a cap on the buy in too, so i doubt it would get this far with $200 bets on each street, but anyway...Even though on the river you are 25/75 to hit a flush draw, and even though his implied odds suck a little bit more now because he knows he can't take his whole stack, only $200. It is correct to call even the "max" bet. Sucks to be you, playing at that Casino lolthat's not how a cap works, it's not a max bet on each street. It's like no matter how much money you have in front of you your "stack" for each hand is equal to the cap. So if the cap is $200, you can only go 'all in' for $200 and then betting is over and each player is treated as all-in. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 that's not how a cap works, it's not a max bet on each street. It's like no matter how much money you have in front of you your "stack" for each hand is equal to the cap. So if the cap is $200, you can only go 'all in' for $200 and then betting is over and each player is treated as all-in.Oh sorry, misunderstood. Link to post Share on other sites
blueodum 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 With the cap set at 30BB, there is no incentive to play speculative hands. Instead, the cap should be set at 50BB at least. With the cap being so low, implied odds has been taken out of play, which renders the essesence of NL games.Isn't the cap the max an individual player can lose? This does not preclude you from winning 30 BB from more than one player, thereby making some speculative hands profitable.I agree, though - it should be in the 50 BB range. Link to post Share on other sites
EmOEmU 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Guys its meant to be a different game with more action. If you want to play deep no limit then just go to a non cap game its that easy. why would they put a cap and then make it 50 or 100 big blinds thats hardly different from regular games.Its pretty fun. I played some small games earlier today and theres loads of action with everyone betting and raising and going all in like crazy. Link to post Share on other sites
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