Zach6668 513 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB ($105.70)Hero ($222.95)UTG ($157.90)UTG+1 ($80)MP1 ($101.55)MP2 ($45.60)MP3 ($22)CO ($43.15)Button ($113.10)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q . 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 4 folds, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, UTG+1 calls $4, Button calls $4.Flop: ($15.50) 6 , 7 , 4 (3 players)Hero bets $11, UTG+1 folds, Button calls $11.Turn: ($37.50) 3 (2 players)Hero ...What is our plan?Villain is 28/10/2.6 after 50 hands. No other substantial reads. Link to post Share on other sites
PimpRock 0 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Lead for about 20? Your still ahead of a bunch of weaker hands (8s-Js, A7suited, AK? all of which I can see calling this flop), if he plays back at you you can be pretty certain your behind. The other possible line is to keep the pot small, check and try to guage information from his bet however this is a green light to take the pot from you. Link to post Share on other sites
Aerriza 0 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I would check-raise here, easiest way to figure out if he has a big hand or not, although it is the most expensive way. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I don't really see what we are worried about here. We are way ahead of his range. Only 2 hands I'd worry about are 55 and 56 sooted.Lead the turn for $20ish Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I don't really see what we are worried about here. We are way ahead of his range. Only 2 hands I'd worry about are 55 and 56 sooted.Lead the turn for $20ish77,66 and 44 seem reasonable holdings for villain too, no? Link to post Share on other sites
7s7c 0 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 as does A/5 suited Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 I don't really see what we are worried about here. We are way ahead of his range. Only 2 hands I'd worry about are 55 and 56 sooted.Lead the turn for $20ishNot worried about anything.What value does a bet have most of the time here? Link to post Share on other sites
Aerriza 0 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 We'll if your not scared of anything he could have then I still say check raise, unless you check big hands alot checking would seem to say your scared of the straight, and then he will have a very good reason to bet at it... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB ($105.70)Hero ($222.95)UTG ($157.90)UTG+1 ($80)MP1 ($101.55)MP2 ($45.60)MP3 ($22)CO ($43.15)Button ($113.10)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q . 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 4 folds, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, UTG+1 calls $4, Button calls $4.Flop: ($15.50) 6 , 7 , 4 (3 players)Hero bets $11, UTG+1 folds, Button calls $11.Turn: ($37.50) 3 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $20, Hero calls $20.River: ($77.50) Q (2 players)Hero ...------------Ok, here's my thinking on this hand:On the turn, I instinctively checked because I was scared of that board. Then I thought to myself, what am I scared of?I can't imagine much of a range with a 5 in it for this villain. I mean, 55, A5s are possible, but I imagine those are tiny parts of his range.Also, 44, 66, 77 are possible as well, but the combos of those are pretty few, relatively. The villain was 22.22/11.11/3.5 after 126 hands, fwiw.I thought of a while on the turn on what the best play would be, and I figured a raise would pretty much force a worse hand out, while getting pushed by a better hand, aka set or straight.Also, my call gives him effective drawing odds of 3-1 if he is behind, which is still a losing play if he has a 5 outer, or 2 outer, etc. Even an oesd, ie 89, is losing money on this bet, which means that I'm not allowing worse hands to draw out.On the river, that card puts me ahead of all sets, two pairs, etc, but still behind a straight. What is my play here? Button has $77 left, I have him way covered.I'll explain my thinking on that one in a little bit.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
irishguy 14 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB ($105.70)Hero ($222.95)UTG ($157.90)UTG+1 ($80)MP1 ($101.55)MP2 ($45.60)MP3 ($22)CO ($43.15)Button ($113.10)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q . 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 4 folds, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, UTG+1 calls $4, Button calls $4.Flop: ($15.50) 6 , 7 , 4 (3 players)Hero bets $11, UTG+1 folds, Button calls $11.Turn: ($37.50) 3 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $20, Hero calls $20.River: ($77.50) Q (2 players)Hero ...------------Ok, here's my thinking on this hand:On the turn, I instinctively checked because I was scared of that board. Then I thought to myself, what am I scared of?I can't imagine much of a range with a 5 in it for this villain. I mean, 55, A5s are possible, but I imagine those are tiny parts of his range.Also, 44, 66, 77 are possible as well, but the combos of those are pretty few, relatively. The villain was 22.22/11.11/3.5 after 126 hands, fwiw.I thought of a while on the turn on what the best play would be, and I figured a raise would pretty much force a worse hand out, while getting pushed by a better hand, aka set or straight.Also, my call gives him effective drawing odds of 3-1 if he is behind, which is still a losing play if he has a 5 outer, or 2 outer, etc. Even an oesd, ie 89, is losing money on this bet, which means that I'm not allowing worse hands to draw out.On the river, that card puts me ahead of all sets, two pairs, etc, but still behind a straight. What is my play here? Button has $77 left, I have him way covered.I'll explain my thinking on that one in a little bit.- Zach Edit: I need to learn how to read.I bet $50 and hope he pushes the rest in. I agree it seem less likely he has a straight here. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 That river doesn't put you ahead of any sets now....it fills them up.I check call more often than not on this board....I think if you bet he raises and then what do you beat?I bet exactly the villians stack size. I think it is much more likely he has a set than a straight. Link to post Share on other sites
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