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We should all know better than to fall for the 'transfer me money here for money here' scam..but, if you're completely unaware, there's a new method folks like SteveDaPimp are using to jack your money.Neverwin gets rolled for 27k.There, they also talk about Reztes getting rolled for something like 120k on PokerRoom--of which only 40k was able to be returned.How To Not Get Rolled

  • Don't accept AIM file-transfers from people you don't know. They'll tell you their your high school friend, "Here's my picture..can't believe you don't remember me" or maybe ask you to look at a hand history. These are trojan horse type programs that log your keystrokes and basically give them access to any passwords/account information you type in. Everything from AIM to Party Poker to Neteller.
  • Really consider using two computers if you play for a living. One for AIM/MSN/Porn and one for poker. It's really just a lot safer than having huge amounts of your money get chunked off.
  • Keep an updated virus-protection program. The newest programs should almost all be able to handle spyware/keylogging programs without much issue. Spysweeper is an excellent program.
  • Don't display your AIM or MSN name on your user profile or post it in the open forums. Use PMs if you want to get someone's AIM or MSN.
  • Todd Witteles (DanDruff) says he never keeps more then the bare minimum on any of his sites and re-distributes everything through Neteller--and it's a really good idea. There's no sense in having 3k on Party to play 3/6 LHE. If you need more, transfer later. Obv, this way, if someone does screw with your account, you lose the bare minimum.
  • Think. A lot of these scams work because people are too trusting. If they say they know you from the forum--ask them their forum handle. If they say you know them from high school, ask them what high school.

All of that is really pretty elementary, but, it helps to be reminded. Also on NWP, there's a thread of SteveDaPimp's AIM names that he's using to scam people. Worth taking a look if you get a lot of AIM traffic.Edit; here's the link AIM names of SteveDaPimp and other scammers.

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Neverwin got owned hard, that sucks
They were smart about it too. He *only* had 27k on there. They transferred 10k, transferred another 5k and then donked off ~12k in a cash game to make it look more legit. UB is likely going to return the money from the two transfers--15k--assuming it's someone he's never transferred to before.
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i had my fulltilt account temporarily shutdown because i swapped money unknowingly with someone on the list that is posted over at Neverwin. They cleared me when i explained the situation to them and they realized i was legit but it's pretty f'd up. i guess i'm gonna have to clean out all my accoutns

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i had my fulltilt account temporarily shutdown because i swapped money unknowingly with someone on the list that is posted over at Neverwin. They cleared me when i explained the situation to them and they realized i was legit but it's pretty f'd up. i guess i'm gonna have to clean out all my accoutns
This is also another aspect of it. Be careful trading money with people who are 'too willing' or offer you too good a deal. If they're offering to trade you 5k on Party for 4k on UB, they're either going to scam you out of your 4k, or they're trying to clear the trail on their 5k--essentially money laundering. You make 1k off the deal, but, it's dirty money and can get your account jammed up. Good luck.
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About always keeping the bare minimum, you should avoid transfers every few days, just once a month take out down to the bare minimum, then let it build up again for a month.
Good point. I wouldn't transfer my winnings off every other day, but, every week to two weeks isn't a bad idea. Also, if you're a 'baller' and feel the need to sit at a 1/2 LHE table with your 135k, you gotta understand that you're begging to get hacked/scammed. I would also be hesitant to put up any brag posts about the size of my bankroll(Vatche). It doesn't take much to get the scammers' juices flowing.
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Here's my question? if i have a huge sum of money sitting in my neteller what is gonna keep someone with a keylog/screenshot trojan from getting in there?i really thought someone was gonna answer this question STAT.

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Here's my question? if i have a huge sum of money sitting in my neteller what is gonna keep someone with a keylog/screenshot trojan from getting in there?
Consistently change all your passwords, use different computers for AIM and Neteller/Poker, use the 'remember password' when it's possible, routinely run virus-scans/spyware scans. It's really vulnerable, but, if you're vigilant, you should be okay.
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Consistently change all your passwords, use different computers for AIM and Neteller/Poker, use the 'remember password' when it's possible, routinely run virus-scans/spyware scans. It's really vulnerable, but, if you're vigilant, you should be okay.
i think we all know vigilance is not one of my stronger points.
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if you're afraid of getting keylogged or hacked 1 way to prevent a lot of it is to set your aim preferences so that the only people that see you online are the ones you have on your buddy list. While this doesnt eliminate the possibility of getting keylogged (they could hack your friends aim name or send via email) but it makes it much harder.

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Here's my question? if i have a huge sum of money sitting in my neteller what is gonna keep someone with a keylog/screenshot trojan from getting in there?i really thought someone was gonna answer this question STAT.
i too had a large sum on neteller but had bbe out and about for a month or so a while back and i coulda sworn i was missing like 320 bucks i tryed to find out but i wasnt helped by neteller to good so i am now very timmid about all this crap and is there any way they can do same thing from yahoo mssner or msn ????
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Chucksty, DONT keep alot of $ on Neteller. Ive heard way too many horror stories to trust it. Basically we are forced to suck it up and have the money deposited to our banks and pay full tax....SIGH.

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It's tough to find a spot to keep our money now. If our own bank accounts are safest, it will be harder to transfer money back into a poker site if neteller instacash has been set to 0. These "simple" transactions are become a pain in the butt.

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Chucksty, DONT keep alot of $ on Neteller. Ive heard way too many horror stories to trust it. Basically we are forced to suck it up and have the money deposited to our banks and pay full tax....SIGH.
Just curious, Hoosier and anyone else who might know..I've never heard of these problems with FirePay; anyone heard any 'bad things' about them?
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[*]Todd Witteles (DanDruff) says he never keeps more then the bare minimum on any of his sites and re-distributes everything through Neteller--and it's a really good idea. There's no sense in having 3k on Party to play 3/6 LHE. If you need more, transfer later. Obv, this way, if someone does screw with your account, you lose the bare minimum.
This is what i do, works great, most i'm affraid to lose is 1k from account/neteller/chequing, and even put a 1 week 1 time deposit only.
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