TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Robert V is my secret lover and all I really want is to play the ME final table with Verkonyi, Huck Seed, Moneymaker, Jamie Gold, Humberto Brenes and me.Well thats fine, but don't be telling EVERYONE else about that $hit, ya hear me? Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Harris 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 IF THESE DONKS WERE FLOODING THE FIELD TRYING TO LIVE THE DREAM WOULD THESE "PROS" HAVE THE MONEY, THE ENDORSEMENTS, THE FAME, THE PRESTIGE THAT THEY DO!? No they wouldn't they would have their small community that no one cared about and no one would know who they were just like it was 10 years ago when no one knew who johnny chan and phil hellmuth were and didn't care.Yes, the pros would, becuase the pros play in cash games. It was a small community and it was better. No need to shout--on a tilt? You guys steaming? Must be easy to take your money off or online. Link to post Share on other sites
cuddlemonkey 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 So sad -- seeing how you've lost your argument. He's a pro. He's had 4 cashes--things aren't as you say. Back to your poker books now, online "poker" player.EVENT PLACE PRIZE DATE No Limit Hold'em TournamentNo Limit Hold'em 6th $4,015 Apr 22, 2006 2nd Annual Linda Johnson Celebrity ChallengeNo Limit Hold'em 1st $19,585 Jun 26, 2002 33rd Annual World Series of PokerWSOP World Championship - No Limit Hold'em 1st $2,000,000 May 24, 2002 U.S. Poker ChampionshipEvent #7 - No Limit Hold'em 10th $1,266 Dec 3, 2000Now that that's clear, I've forwarded this thread to the moderators and owners of FCP, requesting that they do something about the rude children that infest this board--and who are posting the flames above. I've stayed above it--the proof is now with the owners of FCP. Something's got to be done.I've cashed more than that this year. Does that make me a micro limit tourney pro?Yes, the pros would, becuase the pros play in cash games. It was a small community and it was better. No need to shout--on a tilt? You guys steaming? Must be easy to take your money off or online.So basically... you were a "pro" in the old days, but now can;t even beat the donks who are trying to give their money away. Over time, you grew bitter and decided that internet players are the reason you are a miserable person. Gotcha. Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Harris 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 I've cashed more than that this year. Does that make me a micro limit tourney pro?If you make a living--any living--playing poker, then you are a professional poker player. Some here focus on cashing in tourneys. I know poker players who have never won a tourney but who have thrived in cash games for 30 years.My beef is with Harrah's WSOP ME, and the online sats that flood the ME, when the rest of us have to pay $10 large to play. It's not an even field. If next year there are 20,000 players in the ME, then forget it... ESPN's coverage will show it for what it is... a bunch of donks trying to live the poker dream while the real players will be in cash games or starting their own tournament. I've played in the WSOP in the 1980s and those players were far and away better than the thousands of sat players that make it impossible to play good poker.DN said it: "That isn't poker" referring to some donks moving in 5 or 10 large on Day 1. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Yes, the pros would, becuase the pros play in cash games. It was a small community and it was better.Maybe you just don't get what poker is all about. You simply cannot have 5 seats "reserved" for the top pros to play in the ME final table. Poker is about EARNING your right to be at the final table and EARNING your way through the field of HOWEVER MANY PLAYERS enter. And I do believe most pros know this before they enter a tournament...lolHonestly, it isn't like the pro's didn't know that this years ME would be huge. They probably speculated atleast 7,000 players, so it isn't as if it is a mystery to them when they go to Harrah's and said, "Oh $hit, there are tons of players in this one man, let's not play." They know what they are getting themselves into, and like someone else said, a "true" pro does not care too much about looking outplayed on T.V. just beacuse he didn't win the ME. This is just stupid. Everything you write is stupid.And Rober V is no pro. If he is a pro then anyone within the last 4 years that has 2 cashes in the WSOP must be a "pro." LMAO, get real dude. Link to post Share on other sites
cuddlemonkey 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 If you make a living--any living--playing poker, then you are a professional poker player. Some here focus on cashing in tourneys. I know poker players who have never won a tourney but who have thrived in cash games for 30 years.Obviously you aren't on speaking terms with Mr. Sarcasm. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Obviously you aren't on speaking terms with Mr. Sarcasm.I agree. I believe that Jack here is a little "slow." Always got the motor running, but at a yellow light. Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Harris 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Maybe you just don't get what poker is all about. You simply cannot have 5 seats "reserved" for the top pros to play in the ME final table. Poker is about EARNING your right to be at the final table and EARNING your way through the field of HOWEVER MANY PLAYERS enter.Not the world championship ME--that event is different. It has to be about crowning the world champion of poker. Let the pros play in a seperate sat and give them 5 seats at the final table, and then the 5 amateurs can have their shot. ESPN will get a good game, and poker will be better off having a legitimate world champion.My way, Jamie Gold would have been playing against DN, Ferguson, Ngyuen, Hachem and Hellmuth at the final table. That would be a championship worth something. And at the final table, divide the chips by 10 and let everyone start over with the same chips, so donks are not able to hand a huge chip lead to another donk, putting the pros at a disadvantage in chips. Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Yes, the pros would, becuase the pros play in cash games. It was a small community and it was better. No need to shout--on a tilt? You guys steaming? Must be easy to take your money off or online.you know what this guy needs?a small dog. Link to post Share on other sites
cuddlemonkey 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 you know what this guy needs?a small dog. Well played, sir. Link to post Share on other sites
ripptyde 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Not the world championship ME--that event is different. It has to be about crowning the world champion of poker. Let the pros play in a seperate sat and give them 5 seats at the final table, and then the 5 amateurs can have their shot. ESPN will get a good game, and poker will be better off having a legitimate world champion.My way, Jamie Gold would have been playing against DN, Ferguson, Ngyuen, Hachem and Hellmuth at the final table. That would be a championship worth something. And at the final table, divide the chips by 10 and let everyone start over with the same chips, so donks are not able to hand a huge chip lead to another donk, putting the pros at a disadvantage in chips. Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Harris 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 I made my point. There isn't alot of talent at FCP. I'll just let this thread alone since I'm so controversial to the donks. Wouldn't want to upset them anymore--but it's good being right. My last word on the WSOP ME is that it isn't a world championship anymore, and its the online sat players that have turned it into a cattle call of inept poker wannabees. And this illustrious game uses this tourney to crown it's World Champion? Link to post Share on other sites
beans-n-icewater 18 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Well...I'm pleased to announce that my "ignore user" option is about to be used for the first time. I suggest everyone do the same.If the new off-shore owners of this place wont ****-can this guy, at least we can ignore him. Link to post Share on other sites
cuddlemonkey 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I'll just let this thread alone since I'm a donk. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.That's all I heard. Sorry.Well...I'm pleased to announce that my "ignore user" option is about to be used for the first time. I suggest everyone do the same.If the new off-shore owners of this place wont ****-can this guy, at least we can ignore him.I would, but I'm using him for post count. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I made my point. There isn't alot of talent at FCP. I'll just let this thread alone since I'm so controversial to the donks. Wouldn't want to upset them anymore--but it's good being right. My last word on the WSOP ME is that it isn't a world championship anymore, and its the online sat players that have turned it into a cattle call of inept poker wannabees. And this illustrious game uses this tourney to crown it's World Champion?I know exactly "who" you are. You are one of those middle aged washed up guys at the Casino that complains that all of the "young guns" of poker don't know what they are doing and they are just a bunch of internet donkeys! And you've been playing for 15 years and you really know what you are doing and that we should respect you!" Right? Idiot, learn that this is the way poker goes, and just because an Amateur wins the ME does not mean that he is the "best." For all the morons who watch TV poker only, they might think that, but us players who really count, KNOW who is the best.Players like Ivey, Brunson, Hellmuth, DN, Greenstein, they are good, and even if they don't win the ME in my books they are still considered to be at the VERY top of this game we call poker. Oh, well besides Varkonyi, they are second to him, he is the best "pro." Link to post Share on other sites
beans-n-icewater 18 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 MUCH better....You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Jack Harris. · View this post · Un-ignore Jack Harris Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I made my point. There isn't alot of talent at FCP. I'll just let this thread alone since I'm so controversial to the donks. Wouldn't want to upset them anymore--but it's good being right. My last word on the WSOP ME is that it isn't a world championship anymore, and its the online sat players that have turned it into a cattle call of inept poker wannabees. And this illustrious game uses this tourney to crown it's World Champion?I think you look like Cap'n Crunch. Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Harris 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 MUCH better....You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Jack Harris. · View this post · Un-ignore Jack HarrisYour posts in this thread remind me of the story about the blind leading the blind, beans&icewater.Back to on-topic: The WSOP ME is not the best way to select a champion. Give the pros 5 seats at the final table and 5 more to the other 20,000 wannabees. And make this event a winner take all from now on.1 winner. 1 pot. 1 champion. Link to post Share on other sites
Golden 2 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Your posts in this thread remind me of the story about the blind leading the blind, beans&icewater.Back to on-topic: The WSOP ME is not the best way to select a champion. Give the pros 5 seats at the final table and 5 more to the other 20,000 wannabees. And make this event a winner take all from now on.1 winner. 1 pot. 1 champion.That is the most idiotic idea in the history of this board.And don't insult beans. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Your posts in this thread remind me of the story about the blind leading the blind, beans&icewater.Back to on-topic: The WSOP ME is not the best way to select a champion. Give the pros 5 seats at the final table and 5 more to the other 20,000 wannabees. And make this event a winner take all from now on.1 winner. 1 pot. 1 champion.Ok, if your point was to say that the ME wasn't the "best" way to choose a Champion then you are right. HOWEVER, all of your a$$ hat remarks and Crack/Cocaine laced poker ideas are just wrong. No idiot would have a tourney that huge and allow 5 final table seats reserved. That is just stupid. No one is saying that the ME is the best way to chose a champion. We just all think that you're ideas are dumb and that you must be mad because you can't beat the interweb poker players, sorry. The Main Event is the best way to chose the champion, FOR THE MAIN EVENT. Just because you win the ME doesn't mean you are the greatest poker player. Showing consitency through winning bracelets or winning the WSOP POY or winning the H.O.R.S.E event would much better signify who is the "best."You a Dummy Fish Face Link to post Share on other sites
holdemsnowboarder 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Your posts in this thread remind me of the story about the blind leading the blind, beans&icewater.Back to on-topic: The WSOP ME is not the best way to select a champion. Give the pros 5 seats at the final table and 5 more to the other 20,000 wannabees. And make this event a winner take all from now on.1 winner. 1 pot. 1 champion.If you knew half as much as you thought you did you would know that the pros dont consider the main event the championship they consider the 50k H.O.R.S.E event the championship. But you should know that already right? Now please stfu Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 And don't insult beans. Link to post Share on other sites
ripptyde 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Ok, if your point was to say that the ME wasn't the "best" way to choose a Champion then you are right. HOWEVER, all of your a$$ hat remarks and Crack/Cocaine laced poker ideas are just wrong. No idiot would have a tourney that huge and allow 5 final table seats reserved. That is just stupid. No one is saying that the ME is the best way to chose a champion. We just all think that you're ideas are dumb and that you must be mad because you can't beat the interweb poker players, sorry. The Main Event is the best way to chose the champion, FOR THE MAIN EVENT. Just because you win the ME doesn't mean you are the greatest poker player. Showing consitency through winning bracelets or winning the WSOP POY or winning the H.O.R.S.E event would much better signify who is the "best."You a Dummy Fish Face Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Hmm...That's funny because it seems like all you do is argue over the interweb. Dummy fish. Link to post Share on other sites
ripptyde 0 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 BAN TheCorporation Link to post Share on other sites
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