Jimifan1 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Sorry if this has already been posted (I looked and couldn't find anything.) Just wanted to see what people thought of this play:http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...=simmons/060818Unfortunately, it doesn't say exactly where he was sitting, but it sounds like he was in the middle. I think it wasn't a good move. Big bet, yeah, but I'm not sure I would've gone all in. ESPECIALLY against a guy who's making a lot of calls. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
TrulyRaNd0m 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 If he thought he was that big of a favorite, why wouldn't he push all in?I'm pretty sure his play was correct there. The guy who called with AK was pretty stupid, though... and lucked out.If this were a $10 tournament, we'd all be thrilled to get our money in in that spot. Why would the WSOP main event be any different? Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 This has been posted before, but here's a few things.This guy is a fool. #1. If he knew this "Jeff George" was as bad as player as he thought, he should know he doesn't care about table image.#2. If he doesn't care about table image, the fact that he had TPTK didn't help.#3. If the guy knew he had the best hand, why did he say he would have to steal the pot?This guy thinks he knows something about poker, which he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites
adammc 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Bill Simmons writing about poker is like me writing about lawn bowling, he has no idea.He fails to understand he overcame a 3-1 disadvantage preflop to flop two pair on AK. I can't believe that was published in ESPN magazine. I want 5 mins of my life back. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Bill Simmons writing about poker is like me writing about lawn bowling, he has no idea.He fails to understand he overcame a 3-1 disadvantage preflop to flop two pair on AK. I can't believe that was published in ESPN magazine. I want 5 mins of my life back.Actually, its not like he got all his money in behind. he got it in great, against a guy he knew would call with something idiotic like one pair. Are you the same kind of person who thinks AA vs KK isnt a bad beat when the flop is KKA? Because KK overcame a 4 to 1 advg? Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 The fact is that you have to know who you're playing against. He knew he wasn't playing a guy who was good enough to fold TP/TK, and then cried when he got lucky(which is what 90% of tournament poker is). Link to post Share on other sites
adammc 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Actually, its not like he got all his money in behind. he got it in great, against a guy he knew would call with something idiotic like one pair. Are you the same kind of person who thinks AA vs KK isnt a bad beat when the flop is KKA? Because KK overcame a 4 to 1 advg?Yes that is exactly what I am! Are you retarded? I was merely pointing out that this is just one pathetic bad beat story masked by the fact that he was writing an article about skill versus luck in poker.I am well aware he got it in ahead, don't worry about it. I am pretty good at rudimentary math. I was only pointing out that when he tells his story he doesn't point out that he started the hand well behind, only that he got sucked out on. Listening to bad beat stories, especially those that somehow get published in espn magazine is like ingesting poison. Link to post Share on other sites
borinka99 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Yes that is exactly what I am! Are you retarded? I was merely pointing out that this is just one pathetic bad beat story masked by the fact that he was writing an article about skill versus luck in poker.I am well aware he got it in ahead, don't worry about it. I am pretty good at rudimentary math. I was only pointing out that when he tells his story he doesn't point out that he started the hand well behind, only that he got sucked out on. Listening to bad beat stories, especially those that somehow get published in espn magazine is like ingesting poison.I e-mailed him about this article (no reply though). He obviously doesn't know anything about poker and the whole point of his article was to tell a bad beat story.Also, he said "there were no well known pros at the final table". Yea, no one knows Allen Cunningham buddy. Also, I told him to keep calling raises with KT sooooooooooooooooooooooooooted Link to post Share on other sites
smrphf 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I want that dude to sit at my table. I especially liked it when he said "was dreaming about lasting the day, building a nest egg, getting lucky a few more times, maybe even making it through the week …"Who hopes to get lucky. I always try to put myself in a position where I just don't wanna get unlucky. Both of these guys played the hand terribly. The only thing he did right was get all his chips in with top 2 pair. I just love dudes who like having K-10 with people to act before and after him.On a similar note, did anybody else notice how bad the feature table at the main event was in the last episode. 6 limpers every pot, 5 of them with unsuited, unconnected rags, pushing all in with draws and "hoping to get lucky." That's it, I'll have a trip report for next year and hope to get lucky Link to post Share on other sites
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