tallytownFSU 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 gg bmw.....strippers n blow???lol swgreat cash man.....make sure to write a long report tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
gadjet 11 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 It's very close, p5's had a lengthy discussion about it. Players like Actionjeff and the like agreed that the value in knocking players out was overrated, and more traditional players felt knocking out players was worth more.Yeah, and I can see and understand both sides to it... I just fall on the eliminate the player side... Link to post Share on other sites
borinka99 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 He knew 99 was ahead of both BMWcoupes and certainly crown's range in the hand, and he reraised to isolate the pot HU with the shortstack, giving himself the most +EV possible, he accomplished this goal. He felt the equity he gained was worth more than setting up a situation with the greatest possibility of knocking crown out.Yes, he KNEW 100% that 99 was ahead of both of them. Hindsight is always 20/20.It is close, but to say that "he knew" he was ahead of both is a bit much. Plus even if he was ahead of both, you can still knock out the shortstack. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Funnest rail ever. gg bmw Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 He knew 99 was ahead of both BMWcoupes and certainly crown's range in the hand, and he reraised to isolate the pot HU with the shortstack, giving himself the most +EV possible, he accomplished this goal. He felt the equity he gained was worth more than setting up a situation with the greatest possibility of knocking crown out.I understand this point, but we're talking a difference of having a chance to move up in the money 14K. I believe in the basic tourney strat to take out players. It's very close, p5's had a lengthy discussion about it. Players like Actionjeff and the like agreed that the value in knocking players out was overrated, and more traditional players felt knocking out players was worth more.I guess I'm on the more traditional side. Link to post Share on other sites
gadjet 11 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Excellent work BMW, but I don't like the chop, and I don't like the collusion offer of 1k to call the hand... I do like the FCP call and the AQ against KK... Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 He knew 99 was ahead of both BMWcoupes and certainly crown's range in the hand Yes, he KNEW 100% that 99 was ahead of both of them. Hindsight is always 20/20.GG reading comprehension Link to post Share on other sites
bascomeb 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 GG BMWMaybe if Full tilt had a better chopping system you could've gotten more because giving Phat 1st place money for free is absolutely rediculous. Nice cash tho Link to post Share on other sites
TheSkearnel 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Great game BMW. You played awesome, and you represented FCP very well. The Krablar at the end was superb!And remember, that's TheSkearnel on Full Tilt when you are getting ready to send out the rewards for the rail. -Shawn K Link to post Share on other sites
GetSprung 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 great cash bmw, i still don't know where i stand on that chop, but looks like you were right on the fence either way finishing third. It crown ends up taking this down he will be kicking himself HARD in the morning. At least he'll get to wear a gold jersey that says "I screwed myself out of 90k!". Might be worth the humiliation Link to post Share on other sites
gadjet 11 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Yes, he KNEW 100% that 99 was ahead of both of them. Hindsight is always 20/20.It is close, but to say that "he knew" he was ahead of both is a bit much. Plus even if he was ahead of both, you can still knock out the shortstack.The fact that BMW was pleading for a just call wreaks of weakness too... Link to post Share on other sites
bmwmcoupe 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Umm ya i was overly excited, Link to post Share on other sites
cuddlemonkey 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 great cash bmw, i still don't know where i stand on that chop, but looks like you were right on the fence either way finishing third. It crown ends up taking this down he will be kicking himself HARD in the morning. At least he'll get to wear a gold jersey that says "I screwed myself out of 90k!". Might be worth the humiliationHe just did. lol Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 RAB you owe me $5. Link to post Share on other sites
Love4hockey 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 You guys no the tourney would have played out differntly if thee wasn't a chop right? Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Great game BMW. You played awesome, and you represented FCP very well. The Krablar at the end was superb!And remember, that's TheSkearnel on Full Tilt when you are getting ready to send out the rewards for the rail. -Shawn Kand wandigo. Link to post Share on other sites
cuddlemonkey 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 You guys no the tourney would have played out differntly if thee wasn't a chop right?Yeah, but it's still amusing. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 RAB you owe me $5. yeah me too... Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 great cash bmw, i still don't know where i stand on that chop, but looks like you were right on the fence either way finishing third. It crown ends up taking this down he will be kicking himself HARD in the morning. At least he'll get to wear a gold jersey that says "I screwed myself out of 90k!". Might be worth the humiliationKeep in mind that the chop probably changed the way the game played out. Crown probably played more recklessly than he otherwise would have. There's no way of knowing who would have won had there been no chop. Link to post Share on other sites
Vatche 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 congrats on the 70k but you offering the chip leader 1k to call the short stacks all in was a pretty low class move. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 and wandigo. and wsox8 Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 yeah me too... I think he said he was only doing that bet with me. Link to post Share on other sites
tallytownFSU 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 and wandigo. And DunnRowan Link to post Share on other sites
borinka99 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 He knew 99 was ahead of both BMWcoupes and certainly crown's range in the handGG reading comprehensionYou're still biased because you know the results. It's the same thing as watching poker on TV with my friend who thinks every laydown is stupid if someone gets bluffed. It's easy when you know the cards. I don't think 99 is certainly ahead of both a guy who moves in and then calls all in. Link to post Share on other sites
zsta2k6 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 and wsox8and zsta2k6.. damn banned chat... fuck full tilt support Link to post Share on other sites
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