medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So I owe a friend some money and i've been paying him back monthly but this month he asked if i wanted to go to the local card house with him and I said no I couldnt because my extra cash is going to him. So we worked out an agreement where the money I was going to give him this month ($300) will just be used for me to go play some 3/6 with him at the card house and if i lose it all i just dont owe him money this month but if I win he gets to keep everything. Sounds like a good deal right?!Anyways I normally play tournaments so I'm not very experianced with limit cash games. Anyone have any basic advice for me. My general strategy is to just play tight and only play whole cards and only play the flop if something hits me. Link to post Share on other sites
eYank 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So I owe a friend some money and i've been paying him back monthly but this month he asked if i wanted to go to the local card house with him and I said no I couldnt because my extra cash is going to him. So we worked out an agreement where the money I was going to give him this month ($300) will just be used for me to go play some 3/6 with him at the card house and if i lose it all i just dont owe him money this month but if I win he gets to keep everything. Sounds like a good deal right?!Anyways I normally play tournaments so I'm not very experianced with limit cash games. Anyone have any basic advice for me. My general strategy is to just play tight and only play whole cards and only play the flop if something hits me.u may want to read something like the limit section in super system maybe idk Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So I owe a friend some money and i've been paying him back monthly but this month he asked if i wanted to go to the local card house with him and I said no I couldnt because my extra cash is going to him. So we worked out an agreement where the money I was going to give him this month ($300) will just be used for me to go play some 3/6 with him at the card house and if i lose it all i just dont owe him money this month but if I win he gets to keep everything. Sounds like a good deal right?!Anyways I normally play tournaments so I'm not very experianced with limit cash games. Anyone have any basic advice for me. My general strategy is to just play tight and only play whole cards and only play the flop if something hits me.as opposed to playing half cards ?visit the strategy section, tons of advice therethe first couple of orbits, watch for the agressive players, calling stations and sherrifsif you have a chance, read SSHE Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 as opposed to playing half cards ?visit the strategy section, tons of advice therehehe oops. I might face cards Link to post Share on other sites
AceJackOffS 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Anyways I normally play tournaments so I'm not very experianced with limit cash games. Anyone have any basic advice for me. My general strategy is to just play tight and only play whole cards and only play the flop if something hits me.I think whole cards are healthier like whole wheat bread Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 sorry dumb question but where is the strategy section. I'm not seeing it. Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 hehe oops. I might face cards you are digging a deeper hole here noob, please explain :Djust messing with you budgood luck at the card room, I hope you don't make too much money because as per your agreement your buddy gets everything. If you happen to tear it up on a good run, how would you feel handing over the 300 you owe plus 300 in winnings? Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I always love posters who ask for quick advice.If it was as easy as a few short paragraphs there wouldn't be poker pros.I'd advise reading but you're obviously looking for something simpler.Wishing you luck is all I got for you my friend. Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 you are digging a deeper hole here noob, please explain :Djust messing with you budgood luck at the card room, I hope you don't make too much money because as per your agreement your buddy gets everything. If you happen to tear it up on a good run, how would you feel handing over the 300 you owe plus 300 in winnings?Actually its a great deal cause either way I'm out $300 this month, its either going to my friend or to the poker tables. Also as I said i've been paying him back monthly so I owe a lot more than just $300 so any winnings would just decrease the amount of money I owe him. I have no problem with using my winnings to pay off bills or money I might owe people.And yeah I'm making myself look really dumb Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Actually its a great deal cause either way I'm out $300 this month, its either going to my friend or to the poker tables. Also as I said i've been paying him back monthly so I owe a lot more than just $300 so any winnings would just decrease the amount of money I owe him. I have no problem with using my winnings to pay off bills or money I might owe people.And yeah I'm making myself look really dumb you are actually getting off quite easy with the flames so that's good for nowgood luck at the tablesdon't get mad when you get beat by crappy cards, it WILL happen on a 3/6 table - trust me Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Actually its a great deal cause either way I'm out $300 this month, its either going to my friend or to the poker tables. Also as I said i've been paying him back monthly so I owe a lot more than just $300 so any winnings would just decrease the amount of money I owe him. I have no problem with using my winnings to pay off bills or money I might owe people.And yeah I'm making myself look really dumb Here's my advice. Since you're actually just freerolling, why not try to maximize your EV/fun by playing a high variance, high return style? Ie, always come in for a raise/reraise. Play any pair, any suited connector higher than 6-7, any 2 face cards, A-10+ for a raise/reraise, regardless of how many players are ahead of you. Also, if someone limps and you're on the button or CO, raise to isolate with any 2 cards and then follow up with bets on the flop and turn to steal it. And, if your game has a kill, sweet. If you're posting the kill, ALWAYS raise it if it's folded/limped to you. Else, always call.I know this strategy is a losing one in the long run if you're not skilled in post flop play, but if you're hitting some cards, man, you'll make a crapload. Once, I saw some dude win 20+ straight kill pots at 3/6 by being super aggressive and at the end of the 2+ orbits, he had won over $400. Of course, a lot of the time, you'll just bleed money, but who cares, it's a freeroll to you right?EDIT : Also, you'll get the pleasure of annoying the crap out of everyone at the table. 95% of the players are 3/6 are really weak and they really hate it when someone really loose/aggressive comes in and adds a crap ton of variance to their game. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So I owe a friend some money and i've been paying him back monthly but this month he asked if i wanted to go to the local card house with him and I said no I couldnt because my extra cash is going to him. So we worked out an agreement where the money I was going to give him this month ($300) will just be used for me to go play some 3/6 with him at the card house and if i lose it all i just dont owe him money this month but if I win he gets to keep everything. Sounds like a good deal right?!Anyways I normally play tournaments so I'm not very experianced with limit cash games. Anyone have any basic advice for me. My general strategy is to just play tight and only play whole cards and only play the flop if something hits me.Play LAG, screw it, if you go broke, so what, but if the cards fall right, you're in business.Also, I'd work into the deal than any profit comes off of what you owe. Use your head Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 With no experience you are probablly going to go broke with 50 bbs. Your friend must not like money. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 don't borrow money from friends. Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 don't borrow money from friends.??? The money i owe my friend has NOTHING to do with poker. Thats what friends are for, if a highly unexpected bill comes up and your in a tuff situation your true friends will help you out. I dont see anything wrong with borrowing money from someone you trust if a unexpected bill pops up outta the blue. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 ??? The money i owe my friend has NOTHING to do with poker. Thats what friends are for, if a highly unexpected bill comes up and your in a tuff situation your true friends will help you out. I dont see anything wrong with borrowing money from someone you trust if a unexpected bill pops up outta the blue.I stake my friends too. Heck, I even staked a bunch of forum regulars a few days ago. Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 thanks for the advice aces up, i might just try that since as you said it's technically a freeroll. I'll proally play pretty tight at first though just to get a feel for the table, I dont want to be really loose of others at the table are loose and doing the exact same thing. Should be a good learning experiance though, I typically play sng's but it'll be fun to switch it up for a day and then go back to my regular sng's afterwards.Oh btw it's bay 101 ill be playing at. Anyone else ever play there, the wpt stops through there every year. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 With no experience you are probablly going to go broke with 50 bbs. Your friend must not like money.no Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 ??? The money i owe my friend has NOTHING to do with poker. Thats what friends are for, if a highly unexpected bill comes up and your in a tuff situation your true friends will help you out. I dont see anything wrong with borrowing money from someone you trust if a unexpected bill pops up outta the blue.the fact it has nothing to do with poker is not relavant.you should have the money/insurance to pay unexpected billsborrowing from friends and family often leads to bad blood Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 the fact it has nothing to do with poker is not relavant.you should have the money/insurance to pay unexpected billsborrowing from friends and family often leads to bad bloodSo in your entire life you've never had to borrow money for something unexpected that came up ? Not even once? If thats the cause your one lucky man and you might want to consider hosting a seminar on money management or something cause thats pretty amazing right there Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So in your entire life you've never had to borrow money for something unexpected that came up ? Not even once? If thats the cause your one lucky man and you might want to consider hosting a seminar on money management or something cause thats pretty amazing right there actually, that is corrrect.I've been employed every day of my life since I was 17.I've always had Health and Auto and Home insuranceWhy would I need to borrow from others?I've had Credit Cards for stuff like major car repairs if between checks when I was younger.it's not that rare to never need to borrow money from friends or family. Link to post Share on other sites
Tiltinagain 973 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Because it's what's available at the casino my wife likes to go to, I play 3-6 fairly often......and I hate it! That said, the times I win is when I really feel like gambling. I see 75% of the flops, raise in position with any hand and chase straights and flushes much more than I normally would, especially if I also hit anything other than bottom pair. This is not my best style of play and there is huge variance if you just aren't hitting flops but if you do hit, you will leave with a good profit. So many players at these limits will call all the way to the river with bottom pair/no draw, chase three outers etc... that I have found the only way to win is with a bit of a maniac style. Playing tight just leads to heartache when some ****** calls your raise/re-raise all the way down on a 9 high flush draw and hits the river to take out your trips. You just can't bet enough to get people off their draws so the bad beats are endless but when you are catching cards it's a lot of fun. Good luck Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 actually, that is corrrect.I've been employed every day of my life since I was 17.I've always had Health and Auto and Home insuranceWhy would I need to borrow from others?I've had Credit Cards for stuff like major car repairs if between checks when I was younger.it's not that rare to never need to borrow money from friends or family.thats pretty good. I say just wait cause there are times in life where unexpected things come up.Here is a sceniro, lates say you get laid off from your job at the very same time you have a new kid and you have problems finding another job simply because the job market is in a slump. Are you saying you wouldn't borrow money to help feed your kid??? Would you say you are at fault for being laid off ?? This isnt what happened to me but i think its a good example of how unexpected things can and sometimes do happen in life, and bottom line there is nothing wrong with borrowing money from people you TRUST. The only time it is a problem is when the person borrrowing the money doesnt pay people back, and for me thats not an issue. Thats proally why a friend offered to loan me money without me even asking, cause he knew i was good for it. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 thanks for the advice aces up, i might just try that since as you said it's technically a freeroll. I'll proally play pretty tight at first though just to get a feel for the table, I dont want to be really loose of others at the table are loose and doing the exact same thing. Should be a good learning experiance though, I typically play sng's but it'll be fun to switch it up for a day and then go back to my regular sng's afterwards.Oh btw it's bay 101 ill be playing at. Anyone else ever play there, the wpt stops through there every year.Yes, most bad players are loose but they are not aggressive. Even though it's just 3/6, you can get them out of their comfort zone by playing really aggressive and basically telling them "If you want to get involved in a hand with me, it's gonna cost you at least 5-6 big bets". You'd be surprised that most of the players do not have any table sense and get upset when you start raising/reraising them. DN had a blog entry a while ago about an exercise he called the "nutbar". Basically, you play really loose and aggressive and after a while, you will realize that the table is REACTING to you. Helps you develop your table sense pretty quickly. It's loads of fun as well if the table is really tight passive. Soemtimes, the 10/20 game in my cardroom is tight passive and I then go into nutbar mode. kinda funny to see old ppl give your dirty glances for raising so often. Link to post Share on other sites
medicalmj 0 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Because it's what's available at the casino my wife likes to go to, I play 3-6 fairly often......and I hate it! That said, the times I win is when I really feel like gambling. I see 75% of the flops, raise in position with any hand and chase straights and flushes much more than I normally would, especially if I also hit anything other than bottom pair. This is not my best style of play and there is huge variance if you just aren't hitting flops but if you do hit, you will leave with a good profit. So many players at these limits will call all the way to the river with bottom pair/no draw, chase three outers etc... that I have found the only way to win is with a bit of a maniac style. Playing tight just leads to heartache when some ****** calls your raise/re-raise all the way down on a 9 high flush draw and hits the river to take out your trips. You just can't bet enough to get people off their draws so the bad beats are endless but when you are catching cards it's a lot of fun. Good luckThanks for the advice, you are now the 2nd person to mention trying this. Sounds like i might give it a try even though this isnt how i typically play. I guess overall as long as i have fun thats what counts, right? Link to post Share on other sites
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