table selection

[PrtyPSux 0]

Im reading Small Stakes H by Sklansky and I saw how much the play differs in a loose game than in a tight (3-5 players per flop) game ( I also think its wierd you play looser in a loose game didnt he recommend playing loose in tight games and tight in loose?? if anyone cares to explain please do so.). So how important is table selection when it comes to making money? is it more profitable to sit in a table that has3-5 players per flop or one w/ 6-8? how do you choose these tables online in websites where they dont tell you how many players are in the average flop? I usually see the avg pot size, but should I be observing the games for a while before joining or what? thanks

[JaysonWeber 0]

It depends on what you're looking for and what your strongest game is... online if you play it correctly, the 6 person tables are probobly more profitable just because people play them wrong all the time.It all comes down to what you are more confident with, short handed or full-table. It's good to start full-table to learn pot odds, implied odds, counting outs etc... You can them slowly adapt and alter your game for the short handed tables.

[Suited_Up 2]

It depends on what you're looking for and what your strongest game is... online if you play it correctly, the 6 person tables are probobly more profitable just because people play them wrong all the time.It all comes down to what you are more confident with, short handed or full-table.  It's good to start full-table to learn pot odds, implied odds, counting outs etc...  You can them slowly adapt and alter your game for the short handed tables.

When he said 3-5 or 6-8.. he meant players seeing the flop, and I assume that's in a full table. He just meant what to look for when choosing between all the tables.To try and answer though.... yes I would take a look for a minute before you sit down. And usually the more limpers you get preflop the better. That usually indicates a lot of calling stations, and that's what you're looking for.

[JaysonWeber 0]

Doh... So I can't read yet and I'm still working on it... I prefer tight-passive players the (book smart) players.. because its ridiculous how easy it is to read them. Sorry I completely mis-read the post...If a table is seeing the flop <60%, SIT DOWN and play Tight-Aggresive youre going to be up in no time...

[Dirtydutch 8]

I find (and that book, I think concurs.) that in those limit games where 7 players see every flop, you should play fairly loose pre-flop (obviously not as loose as they play.)… Just a thought.Dutch.

[PrtyPSux 0]

Doh...  So I can't read yet and I'm still working on it...  I prefer tight-passive players the (book smart) players.. because its ridiculous how easy it is to read them.  Sorry I completely mis-read the post...If a table is seeing the flop <60%, SIT DOWN and play Tight-Aggresive youre going to be up in no time...

I find book smart good for no limit, If I can read a player in NL Im gonna make a lot more money calling bluffs and making big folds. but in low limit, Im thinking suited up might be right in wanting to play calling stations, maybe its just me but I would rather get outdrawn in fixed limit than get outdrawn in NL when all your money is at risk, right? But how much is too much? In low limit most players ARE calling stations sooo, If they flop anything at all be it a gutshot or low pair they will see a river, now wouldnt it become a bit of a crapshoot if 4 or 5 people are seeing turns and rivers? wouldnt it be better to have only 2 or 3 chase you? I dont know If im making much sense here but thats what I want to figure out..Alot of loose callers or A few loose callers?

[Emptyeye 0]

In general, in a strictly mathematical sense, I believe you want as many calling stations as possible. The few times everyone misses their ridiculous draws pays for all the other times they hit, and more. In a psychological sense, too many calling stations will throw you off your rocker fairly quickly.

[troutsmart 0]

I'll take as many to a flop as want to tango. I didn't always feel that way, prefering a tighter table of competant players, as bad beats were less frequent. However, I've learned that bad beats imply a player playing from behind, which in the end, is exactly what I want. Granted, the more players that call your raise with KK, the more likely you'll need to fold when it's apparant you're beat as the board plays out. Yet, you can punish those players when you flop sets and strong hands. The swings might be more severe in games that are loose, but overall I'd say they are far more profitable to a good player.

[Guest]

Doh...  So I can't read yet and I'm still working on it...  I prefer tight-passive players the (book smart) players.. because its ridiculous how easy it is to read them.  

I don't really understand this point; "book-smart" players are told to be tight-aggressive, not tight-passive. Are you implying they don't know how to play true TAG or you're referring to book-smart as just logical, but weak-tight?

[sprfcta 0]

Pokerstars shows the % of players seeing the flop.

[jonnyz 0]

Im reading Small Stakes H by Sklansky and I saw how much the play differs in a loose game than in a tight (3-5 players per flop) game ( I also think its wierd you play looser in a loose game didnt he recommend playing loose in tight games and tight in loose?? if anyone cares to explain please do so.).  So how important is table selection when it comes to making money?  is it more profitable to sit in a table that has3-5 players per flop or one w/ 6-8?  how do you choose  these tables online in websites where they dont tell you how many players are in the average flop?  I usually see the avg pot size, but should I be observing the games for a while before joining or what?  thanks

6-8 plrs for sure but good luck finding a game like that above .25-.50 online. I have been scanning the 1-2 and above and it is very rare to find a full ring game at 60%+ in limit holdem.

[NormanHaupt 0]

If a table is seeing the flop <60%, SIT DOWN and play Tight-Aggresive youre going to be up in no time...

did you mean to say less than 60%...?