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I'm puzzled as to how a man who reads so much would actually employ the most common dealth trap in the pit...otherwise known as the Martingale System.I feel for you OP...hopefully you learn from this experience.
As Ive said , Im not an expert in Blackjack . I think it was more along the lines of ... Ive been winning in poker , and blackjack seems super easy ... just go with it kinda thing ..Yea Ive said I read alot ... alot of poker books. Not blackjack .. I only scimmed on a blackjack book .. seems like a remedial game . Lesson learned , I feel like I am a much better person now for doing that ... I know better in the future and will once again, stick to what I', comfortable with
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I tried this double up method on a $1 online roulette table a few years back. It was working for about an hour, I was up $20 or so, feeling good. Then all of a sudden, bam, lost my $128 bet to be down 255 bucks. This was way before I played any poker, and could not afford to lose 255 dollars in one night. So what do I do? make a $300 dollar bet on the Chargers for the next days game. I did win that bet, and ended the weekend even. I have since never played online games, or placed a football wager...whats my point? double strategy sucks, and hedging your losses with sportsbooking works....ok not always, I got lucky.

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sorry, got my fear of driving guy mixed up. I think he has a similar avatar.anyways, Its very odd that you stay off the strip and enjoy what you're used too. but you will go ahead and throw your money at a game like blackjack without any idea.The whole "gotta win back my losses" is a sign of gambling problem. I'm glad to know you play poker differently and have a roll and limit.stay away from -ev gambling
I dont play poker like that. I get up when im tired , I dont try and win the money back that I might have lost. I look at it as a session over a month , and thats that ... I dont have a gambling problem , I just think I ' tripped offline ' or short circuited for a few minutes and when I came to , I had lost 1500 bucks . LoL ...
Uhh, right like i said, glad you dont play poker that way, But its probably because you approach it in a different way. you have the ability to fold without any ante, you have told yourself there is more skill than luck in poker etc...but put u in front of a table game and you dont do so well, poor mentality. I sit at a black jack table with xxx amount, i win or lose, I dont try to cut my losses by reaching into my wallet.cheers
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I tried this double up method on a $1 online roulette table a few years back. It was working for about an hour, I was up $20 or so, feeling good. Then all of a sudden, bam, lost my $128 bet to be down 255 bucks. This was way before I played any poker, and could not afford to lose 255 dollars in one night. So what do I do? make a $300 dollar bet on the Chargers for the next days game. I did win that bet, and ended the weekend even. I have since never played online games, or placed a football wager...whats my point? double strategy sucks, and hedging your losses with sportsbooking works....ok not always, I got lucky.
You can't make a point when your story validates chasing back your money.According to your journal the remedy for losing in the pit IS betting it in the book.
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The 2 xanax and 4 whiskeys in the middle of the afternoon makes me think you are a loser.
I have an acute fear of flying . Rather then being the guy flipping out at the slightest turbulence , Ill be the guy who is calm as a hindoo cow.Im sorry that you think im a loser.
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I have an acute fear of flying . Rather then being the guy flipping out at the slightest turbulence , Ill be the guy who is calm as a hindoo cow.Im sorry that you think im a loser.
Don't mind Grinder, he's just jealous cos he's not old enough to drink at the airport!
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I have an acute fear of flying . Rather then being the guy flipping out at the slightest turbulence , Ill be the guy who is calm as a hindoo cow.Im sorry that you think im a loser.
When the going gets tough, the tough take prescription drugs that were most likely illegally obtained.
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When the going gets tough, the tough take prescription drugs that were most likely illegally obtained.
LoL, yes I went to the inner city and did a deal for 2 , count em 2 , zanax . Man, I thought I was gonna get shot or get set up by an undercover agent . I look at your join date, and then how many posts you have ... and then I wonder to myself , if these are the quality of posts you deliver , that you might be the loser my friend.
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Heh-heh-heh... there was a spelling error in your story.... ha haSeriously, nice story, sorry about the bad ending.To answer the question in one reply of why anyone plays the table games, it's because not everything is about making money. Sometimes, it really is just about the gambling, even though you know it is -EV. Nothing wrong with it as long as you are not hurting yourself or your family financially. Gambling is a valid form of entertainment, one that has been conditioned into our primal brains since the dawn of time (which is why it is so dangerous, too).

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It is interesting how so many people don't understand Blackjack. Excluding Poker, Blackjack is the ONLY game in a casino where if you employ perfect basic strategy and play with favorable rules you can bring the house edge to almost even. Many people incorrectly assume that Craps is the game with the best player odds in a casino. The house edge ends up being negligible around 1/2 of 1%. This is without card counting, simply playing PERFECT basic strategy which is not difficult to do.However you CANNOT deviate and play hunches. Blackjack is all math and if you play perfect basic strategy the game is profitable. I have read dozens of books on Blackjack and only found one that had a good betting system and I have used it for years and it does work.It is definitely not the keep doubling up method. That is a sure fire way to go broke. I played Blackjack for years before taking up Poker a few years ago and I plan to go back to playing Blackjack as well since so few people understand it.Although tournament Blackjack is completely different then regular Blackjack you can do very well there too and I won my very first Blackjack tourney I entered several years ago to the tune of $25k and came back and won it again 2 years later at the Tropicana in Vegas.Blackjack is a great game if you know how to play it. I have considered for years teaching people how to play, maybe even writing a small strategy guide for it.Maybe I will get the initiative one of these days to do it. I could teach anyone that has the willingness to learn, how to be profitable at Blackjack..

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Sounds like you don't deserve your fiance, and she's a better poker player than you. Suicide is an option.- Crash
Ban this troll.
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LoL, yes I went to the inner city and did a deal for 2 , count em 2 , zanax . Man, I thought I was gonna get shot or get set up by an undercover agent . I look at your join date, and then how many posts you have ... and then I wonder to myself , if these are the quality of posts you deliver , that you might be the loser my friend.
At least I didn't lose my whole roll playing bj :club: (i lost it the old fashioned way, sucking at poker)
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I LOVE to gamble, particularly craps. I also seem to do ok at the poker table, but find it can get a little tedious and do not take it as seriously as many others do. When I am in Vegas or AC, I like to start at the poker room, seem to manage usually to win some money at the lower limit tables and then proceed to take my winnings to the craps table. Sometimes I win more, usually I fritter a good piece of it away. Great entertainment for me, and nothing feels better than gambling with the house's money.And the blackjack doubling strategy does not work. I have also proven it the hard way.....

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To answer the question in one reply of why anyone plays the table games, it's because not everything is about making money. Sometimes, it really is just about the gambling, even though you know it is -EV. Nothing wrong with it as long as you are not hurting yourself or your family financially. Gambling is a valid form of entertainment, one that has been conditioned into our primal brains since the dawn of time (which is why it is so dangerous, too).
Agreed.I grew up being a math geek so card and strategy games were appealing and easy for me to pick up.However, growing up with parents who gamble must've given me the bug.As much as I hate losing at anything I do I love the thrill of beating the odds. The smart me plays +EV games such as poker but the fun/drunk me loves craps and random prop bets. I'm always looking for an edge but I'd be a liar if I said it wasn't gambling. In fact, on my flight to Vegas I made a bet with the guys in my row and the row behind that I could guess the last digit of the announced arrival time from the flight captain...sick, I know. :club:
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At least I didn't lose my whole roll playing bj :club: (i lost it the old fashioned way, sucking at poker)
I was waiting for you to say that .. LoL .. in the big picture though , Im so happy I made this huge mistake with such little money. I know better now , and feel amost enlightened for the next time I make my return .. Shrug , no big deal ...For the guys telling me , I should kill myself, and that my fiance should leave me , and that I obtain illegal drugs and that I may have a gambling problem ... F** You B) I posted this as an entertaining story for a community Ive been a part of from the start. Shrug , flame on I guess
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martingale system does not work due to the table max. Blackjack is the devil, i've succumbed to it many times. Bring a friend with you next time, vow never to play again and have your friend make sure you don't.

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very good post. i've had similar experiences. BUT HERE'S A WARNING TO ALL OF YOU IN CASE YOU DECIDE TO PLAY BLACKJACK AGAIN!!!THESE DOUBLE UP STRATEGIES DO NOT WORK. I HAVE READ ABOUT 5 OR 6 BLACKJACK BOOKS AND THE ONLY LEGITAMATE STRATEGIES ARE CARD COUNTING, SHUFFLE TRACKING, HOLE CARDING, ETC. ALL PROGRESSIVE BETTING SYSTEMS ARE A FRAUD!!!!!READ ''BLACKBELT IN BLACKJACK'' BY ARNOLD SNYDER.

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