Did I Make A Donk Play Or Loose The Minimum...

[JVick4 0]

Playing in my weekly home game with a bunch of buddies, whom I know very well. We are playing 6 handed and my buddy, whom we will have the name Brian raised it to $2. We are playing NLHE .25-.50. He is a really good player, who plays a lot of Omaha, and that kind of carries over into the way he plays Holdem. He gets 2 callers behind him, plus the small blind, plus me in the big blind with Q J .Flop - Q 10 5 The small blind checks, I check, and Brian fires $4 into the pot. It folds around to me.This is one of the many times that I feel that this is a continuation bet. I check raise to $10 total to see where he is at. He knows that I am a TAG, player and he would lay something like AK or AJ down right here. He calls my raise.Turn - Q I fire $11 into the pot. He flat calls. At this point I am hoping that he has something like KKs.River - K After some pondering, I decide to check, hoping that he would check behind me with a weaker hand. He quickly fired $15 into the pot. Out of haste, I quickly called without even pondering the possibilitiesHe turns over K Q My questions are did I totally screw this hand up or was it a hand that would basically play it self, with both of us turning trips? We talked about the hand later on, and thought the pot remained pretty small in relation to what could have happened if we took some different courses of action. Or did I just lose the minimum and was unlucky?All opinions are appreciated...Thanks...

[alexruimy 0]

I'm not sure you should've bet on the turn after he called a checkraise on the flop.It sounds like (I'm not sure I'm picturing your table correctly) he opened for 4xBB in early position. QJ is a dominated hand, but certainly you were getting sufficient odds to call. You probably have to be more cautious with so many people in the pot, especially with an early opener. Also, as a technical point:

At this point I am hoping that he has something like KKs.

I don't think you can have suited kings.And if you put him on KK, you shouldn't've called the river bet.Not bad play on either side; just an unlucky situation. I would've had a hard time not losing that much.

[mike76s 0]

After some pondering, I decide to check, hoping that he would check behind me with a weaker hand.

I really have to question your poker playing ability. why would you want him to check behind with a weaker hand? you would want to induce a bluff with your check and just check-call his bluffhoping that he checks behind you with a weaker hand when you have trips is really weak-tightoverall, you played the hand fine. you both hit trips on the turn and you didnt lose your whole stack. I would've called on the river as well (it actually depends on the player and the way he was playing at the time).

[dontlookdown 0]

I think you should have led at the flop. It tells you the same thing a check raise does for cheaper. With a check raise you are building a large pot out of position with a fairly weak holding. QJ is often dominated.

[JVick4 0]

I'm not sure you should've bet on the turn after he called a checkraise on the flop.It sounds like (I'm not sure I'm picturing your table correctly) he opened for 4xBB in early position. QJ is a dominated hand, but certainly you were getting sufficient odds to call. You probably have to be more cautious with so many people in the pot, especially with an early opener. Also, as a technical point:I don't think you can have suited kings.And if you put him on KK, you shouldn't've called the river bet.Not bad play on either side; just an unlucky situation. I would've had a hard time not losing that much.

The KKs was a type-o sorry

I really have to question your poker playing ability. why would you want him to check behind with a weaker hand? you would want to induce a bluff with your check and just check-call his bluffhoping that he checks behind you with a weaker hand when you have trips is really weak-tightoverall, you played the hand fine. you both hit trips on the turn and you didnt lose your whole stack. I would've called on the river as well (it actually depends on the player and the way he was playing at the time).

LOL...you have to question my poker playing ability? The reason I wanted him to check behind me, because that pot was already big enough to be satisfied with, the board was scary with a straight possibility, and I could of had the worst of it. I had pretty much made up my mind I was gonna pay off a river bet, but was just hoping that he would check. I think this play in anything but weak-tight, just my humble opinion...damn newbies!!!

[Ecclesbury 0]

It's a tough position got you there certainly, and it's hard to make any comments without knowing the player better. It had the potential to lose a lot of money, but sounds like you didn't take too bad a hit.However, it does depend on the kind of player he was, and how you felt he perceived you. You said that you are quite a tight agressive player. In this case when he called your check raise on the flop the number of hands he could have somewhat lessen. Now it comes down to the kind of hands you think he likes to raise pre flop with.For him to call a check raise from a tight player on that flop I would say he had to have a queen in his hand (unless he was on an elaborate bluff, but you can't try and second guess this). So possible holdings in my opinion are AQ, KQ, QQ, QJ, QT at a push (depends on the player) or AA, KK, (JJ is a long shot), TTOn the flop and turn you are losing to all of those hands except AA, KK. Then on the river you are only beating AA making your odds of winning pretty slim.This makes a lot of assumptions about the player, so you can modify it for your own case, but thinking about possible hands that he could make those plays before and after the flop put your QJ in a bad position.I know it's hard to throw away trrip queens, but sometimes you just have to.p.s. I like the check raise on the flop though, it gives a lot of information, but if you're going to do it to get him to give information about his hand you have to use that information...i.e. fold on the river.

[mike76s 0]

The KKs was a type-o sorryLOL...you have to question my poker playing ability? The reason I wanted him to check behind me, because that pot was already big enough to be satisfied with, the board was scary with a straight possibility, and I could of had the worst of it. I had pretty much made up my mind I was gonna pay off a river bet, but was just hoping that he would check. I think this play in anything but weak-tight, just my humble opinion...damn newbies!!!

which makes your check-call even better. i was just stating that your way of thinking, 'you hoping he would check behind you', wasn't the best thing to hope for most of the time since you had a solid hand

[Mercury69 3]

KKs is a monster, man. Never fold preflop.