NicksDad1970 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I've played about 50-75 heads up SNG's and this has happened to me several times. (Mostly it's the other person losing conn)If I'm playing and the person I'm playing loses connection I slow play. I don't raise their blinds and check to the river. Then I bet, which I think is fair enough. Obviously when it's their SB they instafold. So each orbit lasts about 2 minutes.Last night I was on FCP playing a guy named Auction John and I lost connection for about 3 minutes. When I lost conn I had about 1600 vs 1400 chips. I came back literally like 3 minutes later and I had 270 in chips.Am I just Mr. NiceGuy and don't do it to other people? Is it considered the "right thing" to do by stealing blinds as fast as you can like that guy did? Link to post Share on other sites
loxo 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I steal. But this has been mentioned before. Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I'd steal too - not many wouldn't, and its -EV not to. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave23 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I'm clearly far too nice to play poker, i wait. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 In real life, I'm a nice/great guy. Online, if this happens, you have to clean em out.Just the nature of the beast.Don't go to war and try to be a humanitarian. You go to kill, kill, kill.People hit and run all the time. Take the W, and that person will invest in a new computer or internet provider.In life, I always do the right thing, in online poker, I'll take the money. Its not cheating. Link to post Share on other sites
AngloBoy 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Crush them as quickly as possible.And then, wait till they return to the table, and mock them mercilessly Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Well I have Time Warner internet and a new dual core lappy. So it's not the equip IMHO. It rarely goes down. But these things will never be perfect.I guess I just look at it differently than most here. I mean if a guy is tilting I'm not going to take a break to give him a chance to cool down. But your internet going out for a couple minutes is something that, for the most part, is totally out of your control. I don't think there's anything that could get me to change my tune about this. Anyway to each is own I think it's pretty shi**y to do.If it's all out war then I'll hire my buddy Guido the killer pimp to beat the crap out of someone in the bathroom. Or better yet next time we go on break I'll go to security and tell them that I saw the chip leader stealing chips on the BJ table. I'll mention that this person is barred from a couple other casinos.Then they'll take that person to an "interview" room for an hour or so while the rest of us blind him down!!! YESSS great ideas! Link to post Share on other sites
loxo 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I've played about 50-75 heads up SNG's and this has happened to me several times. (Mostly it's the other person losing conn)If I'm playing and the person I'm playing loses connection I slow play. I don't raise their blinds and check to the river. Then I bet, which I think is fair enough. Obviously when it's their SB they instafold. So each orbit lasts about 2 minutes.Last night I was on FCP playing a guy named Auction John and I lost connection for about 3 minutes. When I lost conn I had about 1600 vs 1400 chips. I came back literally like 3 minutes later and I had 270 in chips.Am I just Mr. NiceGuy and don't do it to other people? Is it considered the "right thing" to do by stealing blinds as fast as you can like that guy did? Why ask the question if you are going to say that everyone else is wrong and it's a shitty thing to do? Link to post Share on other sites
elnino 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Crush them as quickly as possible.And then, wait till they return to the table, and mock them mercilessly nice Link to post Share on other sites
....Ian.... 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I steal Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Shakes 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Look at it this way.Those people you didn't do it to.....would do it to you in a heartbeat.So the only way not to be on the losing end of this equation is to remeber the golden rule do unto others as they would do to you. Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Why ask the question if you are going to say that everyone else is wrong and it's a shitty thing to do?Well if enough people answered the other way with soound reasoning I would have to reconsider. But just like I said in my next post about it I didn't think there was anything anyone could say to change my mind. But I guess I did it just for discussion.Look at it this way.Those people you didn't do it to.....would do it to you in a heartbeat.So the only way not to be on the losing end of this equation is to remeber the golden rule do unto others as they would do to you.That's another reason I started this thread. I guess I would have to reconsider if a lager % of others stole. Then it would be exactly like you say. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Well if enough people answered the other way with soound reasoning I would have to reconsider. But just like I said in my next post about it I didn't think there was anything anyone could say to change my mind. But I guess I did it just for discussion.That's another reason I started this thread. I guess I would have to reconsider if a lager % of others stole. Then it would be exactly like you say.that makes absolutely no sense. Tell Nick to learn as much from his teachers, because his dad is a walking contradiction. Good luck to Sarah as well. Link to post Share on other sites
PotDragon 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 If you are going to play online with inferior equiptment or on a dial up...then you are GIVING AWAY AN EDGE. Poker players EXPLOIT THE SMALL EDGES.Do you see now why your whole thread is stupid ?This is more likely your attempt at moral superiority than an effort "just for discussion."If taking the blinds is wrong...then why don't you FOLD BACK HIS BIG BLIND ? oh...you are not that "moral" huh ? So it all boils down to how quickly one plays ? Taking his BB is ok...taking it quickly is not ? Try thinking more. Link to post Share on other sites
chester97 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 if they were good they would have felted you when they still had the connection. take their money. Link to post Share on other sites
Jdr999 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I steal. And when I get disconnected, I expect the other player to steal my blinds. Link to post Share on other sites
diamondhead 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I wait but if they don't seem to be coming back...go ahead and take the chips. Link to post Share on other sites
sdnuol 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 i do it because im cheap, but if you truly have class/extreme kindness then youd do what you do. I know BodogAri doesnt steal when people lose connection which i think is cool. Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 that makes absolutely no sense. Tell Nick to learn as much from his teachers, because his dad is a walking contradiction. Good luck to Sarah as well.Well I guess I'll have to read and reread what I said to figure it all out. Or get someone to read it to me and explain it to me.In the times people lost conn on me I'd slow play it. Then I lost conn last night for the first time and really pissed me off when I came back and saw I was almost broke. (BTW I did come back and beat this guy :)I was just plain furious. So as soon as it happened I kne wI was going to post about it because I was really curious what people on FCP would think. I was surprised to see people say they steal. For the most part I'm the kind of person who can be swayed after listening to other people. But after the first couple posts my thoughts had not changed and I couldn't really think of a way I could be changed. Then reading someone say to look at it as if about everyone would do it against me so do it to them. I was kind of like hmmmm well I guess that makes sense. But I still don't like it. There are many things I have to accept in life and go on. I guess this is just one of em. I guess I'll have to see what I do next time it comes up but I don't think I'll change my view. I guess I think of some kind of karma type deal and hope good things happen to me.Sorry for contradicting myself I really didn't mean to. Maybe I'm a politician in the making :)P.S. - Thanks for not forgetting my daughter Link to post Share on other sites
JadeTiger 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Well I have Time Warner internet and a new dual core lappy. So it's not the equip IMHO. It rarely goes down. But these things will never be perfect.I guess I just look at it differently than most here. I mean if a guy is tilting I'm not going to take a break to give him a chance to cool down. But your internet going out for a couple minutes is something that, for the most part, is totally out of your control. I don't think there's anything that could get me to change my tune about this. Anyway to each is own I think it's pretty shi**y to do.If it's all out war then I'll hire my buddy Guido the killer pimp to beat the crap out of someone in the bathroom. Or better yet next time we go on break I'll go to security and tell them that I saw the chip leader stealing chips on the BJ table. I'll mention that this person is barred from a couple other casinos.Then they'll take that person to an "interview" room for an hour or so while the rest of us blind him down!!! YESSS great ideas! Since when do poker rooms use Black Jack chips in a poker tournament? Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 It all depends. If I respect the person, I MIGHT try to wait as long as I can. If it's some fool I've never met, or don't respect his play or attitude, i'll clean them out. But I'm so good I could clean them out anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 If you are going to play online with inferior equiptment or on a dial up...then you are GIVING AWAY AN EDGE. Poker players EXPLOIT THE SMALL EDGES.Do you see now why your whole thread is stupid ?This is more likely your attempt at moral superiority than an effort "just for discussion."If taking the blinds is wrong...then why don't you FOLD BACK HIS BIG BLIND ? oh...you are not that "moral" huh ? So it all boils down to how quickly one plays ? Taking his BB is ok...taking it quickly is not ? Try thinking more.Dude take it easy........ No I don't see why my whole thread is stupid. I do see how you're trying to act like Smash from a year or so ago.Honestly though good point about folding back to him on his BB's. But maybe my mindset was I'd do whatever I could to make him/her lose as little as possible while they were having problems.Second of all if you were as thourough as Smash was then you'd see I stated I had roadrunner which has been very reliable. You would have also see that I had a new dual core laptop. Now do you see why you come across as a POS? Since when do poker rooms use Black Jack chips in a poker tournament?They don't but when I play in a poker tourney a BJ table is about 12 seconds walking distance. If I say something like "stealing from a poker table" then I'd run the risk of them stopping the poker tournament. Gotta keep the heat away from poker tables good eye though Link to post Share on other sites
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