myenemy 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I played in the $100+20 with add-on at Borgata in AC this Saturday and was doing pretty well, with two tables remaining from 56 starting players, until the following chain of events. Sitting with 52,000 and second in chips at the table and blinds at 1k - 2k, an old man with about 15k to my right makes it 8k. I suspecting some weakness and raise to 16k with 55. A middle position player raises all in to 20k and the button (the table leader) debates for 2 minutes before folding, the old man folds and I of course have to call. The cards are tabled to reveal my 55 v. AA, no surprise there except that the old man says I'm drawing dead, he mucked 55. So that sucked and had me down to about 30k. With blinds increasing, my being completely card dead, and furthermore unable to steal due to not one pot coming to me unraised, I find myself in UTG+1 with 22,000 and blinds at 2k - 4k (500). I do not want to play SS, hope to double up, and still be short then, so with what was my best oppurtunity in an hour I move all-in with QT while I still have some ammo left. The small blind calls with KK, I flop a Q but get no more help. I bust out 14th, four out of the money. Of course I was terribly disappointed and believe that had I held out on the 55 hand I could have coasted through my dead spot and reached the FT. Unfortunately, it didn't go that way and I feel that under the circumstance I took the shots that I had to. QT was obviously questionable but it was such an aggressive table that I couldn't reasonbly expect to have a better spot anytime soon. Incidentally, the highest PP I picked in the whole tourney was 99 and I got AK once but received no action. That whole time I was card dead I kept thinking that I was due for a rush.. Thoughts on this tournament? Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 If there were no luck involved you'd win every one. Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 If there were no luck involved you'd win every one.What position were you when you had 55? Since you said the guy with AA was in MP, that must have meant you were utg +1 or so, which would make me lean towards folding..Yeah you sensed weakness in the original raiser, but with so many people to act behind you, if my assumption is correct that you were in ep, then 55 is probably not going to stand..Add in to the fact that you have an aggressive table, and I'm not a big fan of that hand Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 and blinds at 1k - 2k, an old man with about 15k to my right makes it 8k. I suspecting some weakness Why ? It's half his stack. It's a very strong play, unless he sucks. I don't like putting in 1/3 of your stack with 55 against that bet of his. ****************I find myself in UTG+1 with 22,000 and blinds at 2k - 4k (500). I do not want to play SS too late you are very very short. Link to post Share on other sites
myenemy 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 What position were you when you had 55? Since you said the guy with AA was in MP, that must have meant you were utg +1 or so, which would make me lean towards folding..Yeah you sensed weakness in the original raiser, but with so many people to act behind you, if my assumption is correct that you were in ep, then 55 is probably not going to stand..Add in to the fact that you have an aggressive table, and I'm not a big fan of that handYou're absolutely right. I was UTG+1. I shouldv'e folded or called than folded to the 12000 raise. Had I called or folded, the leader would've called with JJ (what he was debating), lost, and I wouldve been the leader. Ahhh F..K! Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 You're absolutely right. I was UTG+1. I shouldv'e folded or called than folded to the 12000 raise. Had I called or folded, the leader would've called with JJ (what he was debating), lost, and I wouldve been the leader. Ahhh F..K!Calling is even worse than raising there, for the same reason..Not only have we put chips in the pot, but we give ourselves no chance to win the pot right then..If someone wakes up w/ a good hand and comes over the top, we have to fold and we didn't even get to see the board..Folding is the best option by farActuarys right...You are really really short by the time you pick up Q10, w/ an m of 2.2 and the blinds only 2 hands away...I think the issue here is not letting yourself get to this point in the first place..I knwo you said you were card dead, but at some point, your going to have to make a stand before you get here Link to post Share on other sites
myenemy 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Calling is even worse than raising there, for the same reason..Not only have we put chips in the pot, but we give ourselves no chance to win the pot right then..If someone wakes up w/ a good hand and comes over the top, we have to fold and we didn't even get to see the board..Folding is the best option by farActuarys right...You are really really short by the time you pick up Q10, w/ an m of 2.2 and the blinds only 2 hands away...I think the issue here is not letting yourself get to this point in the first place..I knwo you said you were card dead, but at some point, your going to have to make a stand before you get hereYou're right. I suck. I shoulda gambled sooner. Actually calling was never really an option, shouldnt have even mentioned it. I made so many mistakes on that hand, that right now I just want to throw up. Link to post Share on other sites
fckthis 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 You're absolutely right. I was UTG+1. I shouldv'e folded or called than folded to the 12000 raise. Had I called or folded, the leader would've called with JJ (what he was debating), lost, and I wouldve been the leader. Ahhh F..K!Called is right. If you think he's weak, dontcommit preflop, and then if it gets to HU, outplay him post. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Called is right. If you think he's weak, dontcommit preflop, and then if it gets to HU, outplay him post.wrong.calling sux.8k/52k and we flat call 1/2 his stack with 55 ?Out play him post flop? With 55. Link to post Share on other sites
myenemy 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 wrong.calling sux.8k/52k and we flat call 1/2 his stack with 55 ?Out play him post flop? With 55.The thing is, this guy was a complete nit. He claims he would've called the 8k raise if no one had re-rasied but I believe him maybe 20%. Honestly, the rasie was worse because of my position then because of my opponent. I am sure a call would've been wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
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