The Official Dn Isn't Playing Anymore Tournaments Thread

[greatwhite 0]

Well, from what we know of DN did not enter the pot limit omaha event today. While I understand he is trying to make a point that this is messed up do you think that this is in a way hurting him? He is giving up opportunities to win these prestigious bracelets and a lot of cash. Since he is having a decent World Series I'm in shock that he is not trying to capture one of these. Maybe they don't mean as much to him as I thought they did.

[TB17 0]

DN is gonna rape you by words alone.

[checkymcfold 0]

Well, from what we know of DN did not enter the pot limit omaha event today. While I understand he is trying to make a point that this is messed up do you think that this is in a way hurting him? He is giving up opportunities to win these prestigious bracelets and a lot of cash. Since he is having a decent World Series I'm in shock that he is not trying to capture one of these. Maybe they don't mean as much to him as I thought they did.

oh dear.:coverseyesface:

[DanielNegreanu 141]

The WSOP schedule is so terrible this year that the value of these bracelets has been watered down so much the "prestige" just isn't quite there. Aside from that, I'm on the phones right now with the people at Harrah's and if that doesn't go well my next call is Nevada Gaming Commision. I'll also be using my syndicated newspaper column to let the world know how Harrah's is destroying the WSOP.

[2bthebest 2]

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[HangukMiguk 8]

Well, from what we know of DN did not enter the pot limit omaha event today. While I understand he is trying to make a point that this is messed up do you think that this is in a way hurting him? He is giving up opportunities to win these prestigious bracelets and a lot of cash. Since he is having a decent World Series I'm in shock that he is not trying to capture one of these. Maybe they don't mean as much to him as I thought they did.

you are dumb. that is all.

[chester97 0]

Maybe they don't mean as much to him as I thought they did.

the way i see it, one of the reasons that he is so upset along with harry d. is the fact that these bracelets do mean so much to him that he can't stomach what is going on.

[AlTrade 0]

The WSOP schedule is so terrible this year that the value of these bracelets has been watered down so much the "prestige" just isn't quite there. Aside from that, I'm on the phones right now with the people at Harrah's and if that doesn't go well my next call is Nevada Gaming Commision. I'll also be using my syndicated newspaper column to let the world know how Harrah's is destroying the WSOP.

Good luck Daniel, go and get um!!!!!!

[FourFlusher 0]

I am not at all surprised by the ridiculous inattention to detail and tradition shown by Harrah's.What else cou,d be expected by Binion's selling to this mega-comglomorate?Couldn't have been worse if they sold to Disney, or, directly to ESPN.

[TheSkins 0]

Well, from what we know of DN did not enter the pot limit omaha event today. While I understand he is trying to make a point that this is messed up do you think that this is in a way hurting him? He is giving up opportunities to win these prestigious bracelets and a lot of cash. Since he is having a decent World Series I'm in shock that he is not trying to capture one of these. Maybe they don't mean as much to him as I thought they did.

Not much of a man of principles then?What makes me laugh is that your last sentence seems to suggest that you're somehow disappointed in Daniel for putting his sense of what's right ahead of adding a bracelet to his collection. Awesome.

[chester97 0]

Not much of a man of principles then?What makes me laugh is that your last sentence seems to suggest that you're somehow disappointed in Daniel for putting his sense of what's right ahead of adding a bracelet to his collection. Awesome.

well said

[PokerKnight55 0]

Mobney is the root of all evil, go get em Daniel.

[jarrodhenry 0]

What's the point of a bracelet if it means nothing?The sad thing is, thank you all for making this happen. Me, you, MTV, Daniel Negreanu, World Poker Tour, ESPN... this is all happening because poker IS successful. It's the number one card game in the world. It's NOT Harrah's fault that they want to make money. Any casino in the world would be doing this crap with all the people coming to play. And .. that's our fault. Because the influx of people is what made poker successful.. and it just might be what kills it for the older players of the game. Face it. It's now ESPNized like it never has been before. The game is flat out different.

[JasonBo 0]

brings me to what i said in the blogwise man saysdont **** where you eatalot of peopel put crediability i agree mmoney probably should come back but i belive the finer points are house rules

[JadeTiger 0]

The WSOP schedule is so terrible this year that the value of these bracelets has been watered down so much the "prestige" just isn't quite there. Aside from that, I'm on the phones right now with the people at Harrah's and if that doesn't go well my next call is Nevada Gaming Commision. I'll also be using my syndicated newspaper column to let the world know how Harrah's is destroying the WSOP.

DN do you think that this year will have the same effect on the WSOP as say the baseball lockout had on baseball years ago? It seems to me that this could really damage poker in general. I know it wont go away, there will always be gamblers, but it seems that Harrahs is killing it for those that make it famous. I dont see many pro's settling for sub-par tournament conditions when it has become, as you put it, less prestigious. It seems that it would be in Harrahs best interest to do EVERYTHING it can to cater to the pros. I mean I know a lot of us amateurs want to hit it big but, honestly, the pros is what makes it what it is. It seems that because the WSOP is the biggest meld of pros and amateurs and the amateurs have FAR out weighed the pros in recent years that the Board would want to keep as many 'money-making television personalities' in these events and keep them happy. I mean who wants to go out to vegas and tell stories of playing in the WSOP at a table full of no-names? I think most of us are there to compete but it makes a hell-of-a better story to say I sat with DN, Ivey, Cunningham, Brunson, and the like and you guys keep us coming back for more. Seems all-in-all a rather POOR business decision to conduct the WSOP the way they have. Anyway, Im no pro but I think that the WPA should try and get something done or form a new Professional 'League' that creates its own standards sorta like the NBA..with a union and exec's and everything. Seems the only way to really keep crap like this from happening. With as much influx as there is in the poker industry you are bound to compound the problems with uneducated 'rookies' now running the show at these events. I mean how many 'long-time' WSOP event schedulers/runners/floor persons/dealers/etc are there? Seems the majority would be 'rookies' just to handle the masses. There really should be some sort of organization setup WAY in advance to deal with these problems. Maybe there is already, but they clearly aren't solving these very important issues. thoughts?

[eYank 0]

any update daniel?

[wsox8 10]

What would be the point in playing in more tournaments if you are trying to take a stand against them wrecking events? That's like saying I don't approve of the six handed shootout and taking a stand but you end up playing in it anyway. Nope.

[chester97 0]

What's the point of a bracelet if it means nothing?The sad thing is, thank you all for making this happen. Me, you, MTV, Daniel Negreanu, World Poker Tour, ESPN... this is all happening because poker IS successful. It's the number one card game in the world. It's NOT Harrah's fault that they want to make money. Any casino in the world would be doing this crap with all the people coming to play. And .. that's our fault. Because the influx of people is what made poker successful.. and it just might be what kills it for the older players of the game. Face it. It's now ESPNized like it never has been before. The game is flat out different.

most "sports" (no, i'm not calling poker a sport), have become better when there is an influx of people and attention. i can't think of any that have declined due to the addition of extra people or attention from an ESPN or any other tv station. and this isn't about the "older" players of the game. dn and harry aren't wishing back to the days of 650 person main events. they are looking for the increased benefits that come with being in a massively popular industry.and isn't solitaire the number one card game in the world?

[Oziumrules 0]

This was bound to happen. With the popularity of poker at its highest it was inevitable that the WSOP would become a corporate money maker (no pun intended). Until the players unite and have a voice in how WSOP is run it will only get worse. Until more Top Pros like DN, Harry and others protest I doubt there will be change anytime soon.

[FourFlusher 0]

I like the every body standing up in protest and refusing to play for five minutes suggestion. Even if some boneheads refuse to honor the protest, how much can you get hurt in five minutes?Maybe add some chants:HARRAH'S SUCKS.HARRAH'S SUCKS.HARRAH'S SUCKS.

[socalpoker_j 1]

With the decisions Harrah is making why would they want to shut out the best and most respected players? They are turning the WSOP into a watered down series of as many hold em' events as possible without seeming to care about the players, etc.

[S_Bite 0]

The WSOP schedule is so terrible this year that the value of these bracelets has been watered down so much the "prestige" just isn't quite there. Aside from that, I'm on the phones right now with the people at Harrah's and if that doesn't go well my next call is Nevada Gaming Commision. I'll also be using my syndicated newspaper column to let the world know how Harrah's is destroying the WSOP.

Thats the spirit go get them DN!I certainly do believe it's enormously important that the prestige of the World Series of Poker, the world championchips if you will, isn't compromised like we've witnesed the last few years. The talk in Sweden, for all it's worth, is that all the preliminary events leading up to the ME are just part of some publicity stunt.

[JadeTiger 0]

Sweet mother...just think, soon the WPT may be the prestige of the poker world! ...GOD HELP US ALL!

[jarrodhenry 0]

most "sports" (no, i'm not calling poker a sport), have become better when there is an influx of people and attention. i can't think of any that have declined due to the addition of extra people or attention from an ESPN or any other tv station. and this isn't about the "older" players of the game. dn and harry aren't wishing back to the days of 650 person main events. they are looking for the increased benefits that come with being in a massively popular industry.and isn't solitaire the number one card game in the world?

Not really. Has nascar become better (it's a sport, and it's got a massive influx..) No. It's become scarier and more like a soap opera. Has baseball become better? I guess if you call the roid'ed up players and all the asteriks in the record books "better." Football? Sure.. that's popular.. but now a player doesn't even stay with a team for more than a few years. A five year QB is an incredible thing. Basketball? Fights at courtside, high incidence of gang related incidents happening in the stands.. that's helpful. Hockey? Well, there was a strike a few years back, and despite the owners making some pretty solid money, the players were just hit with a salary cap.. which will give the owners even more money. Even cycling, which is gaining in massive popularity can't go without creating a "Lance Armstrong Doping Scandal"... and then using that to sell products.No sport gets better with an influx of money. It only gets worse and worse, more and more corrupt as the people running the sports try to milk more profitability out of it. I remember a sign held up when Barry Bonds took the field one day: "Babe Ruth did it for Beer and Pretzels."Poker as it was is gone. Poker as it is.. ESPN Poker. World Poker Tour Poker. That's what's here now. This sport has evolved into this.. and will evolve into something else in the future.I think the MAIN problem that is occuring here are too many tournaments and too many people. If they made the WSOP harder to get into, it'd be a difference, but now every venture capitalist who's set up a poker site is giving people the $10k entry. Maybe jump the buyins by 2x - 10x for each event.. or require players to enter the WSOP through a sattelite win + $10000 only.

[Kain8 0]

Not really a matter of if something is going to happen now, but what happens. Harrah's cleans up their act and gets things right? Maybe they want to avoid the "inconvenient headaches" of running a tournament properly and sell the rights to another casino? Speculating aside, DN is about to come down on Harrah's like the hammer of Thor, the results will be favourable for the players and the WSOP as a whole, I'm sure.