JoeyFinngars 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 What do you figure the final table dealers of the main event make from the players? Is it a standard percentage or do the players just wing it.... Link to post Share on other sites
Marc-O 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 What do you figure the final table dealers of the main event make from the players? Is it a standard percentage or do the players just wing it....apparently raymer didn't tip..heard thru the grapevine Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I'm not sure the dealers keep those tips. I would think they are split among all dealers who dealt the ME. Link to post Share on other sites
PokerFan 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 When Harrahs took over they went to a percentage of the prize pool...3%????...with this being the case I wouldn't tip a thing if I won. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 there is a amount(i think between 2-3%) that is taken right from the prize pool so tipping isnt necessary at the wsop. last year the only member of the final table who left a tip was dannemans 20k. on a prize pool of 56,000,000 that is over 1 million taken out for tournament staff closer to 1.5. if you figure about 500 tournament staff each one gets close to 3k which is plenty. in a tournament where money is already taken out for tournament staff i would not tip, i am not cheap but how much do these people expect Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 apparently raymer didn't tip..Hachem didn't tip, I don't know about Raymer.I don't even know what I'd do in that spot though. Call me a nit, but I don't see why I should tip the dealers if I win a WSOP-event. Harrah's makes enough money off of the players to just pay the dealers decent wages. Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 If I were fortunate enough to make the FT, they would be getting a tip from me. Link to post Share on other sites
crocd99 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 if i won 12 mill at the main event i would tip at least 60k Link to post Share on other sites
Push Monkey 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I think I'd ask how many dealers worked the Main Event and tip them each $1000-2000. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Not really on topic to the final table, but there's a good blog of a guy who moved to vegas to be a dealer and now he's dealing the WSOP and some of the big money side games. Here's the link.His most recent entry talks about how he dealt at tables with Hachem, Black, Tran, Van Patton, and some of the other pros.. It's a good read.To keep this on-topic, you could probably leave a message to him and he might know what kind of tips they made. Link to post Share on other sites
canadarules 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Not really on topic to the final table, but there's a good blog of a guy who moved to vegas to be a dealer and now he's dealing the WSOP and some of the big money side games. Here's the link.His most recent entry talks about how he dealt at tables with Hachem, Black, Tran, Van Patton, and some of the other pros.. It's a good read.To keep this on-topic, you could probably leave a message to him and he might know what kind of tips they made.thats fasinating Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I think I'd ask how many dealers worked the Main Event and tip them each $1000-2000.Bye bye $1 million. Link to post Share on other sites
Push Monkey 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Bye bye $1 million.Then if that's the case it would be a lot less. Link to post Share on other sites
Skizario 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 As far as tipping after a WSOP event goes, I wouldn't. The main reason being that Harrahs already takes a huge piece out of the prize pool. By doing that they are basically saying: "We can't rely on the players to tip so we are going to make them." Fair enough, just don't expect anything extra from the players. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth Beagle 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I was reading a dealer's message board and they said that this year the Rio dealers are also pooling tips from cash games during the WSOP and splitting them with tourney dealers. Link to post Share on other sites
_Great_Dane_ 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 What do you figure the final table dealers of the main event make from the players? Is it a standard percentage or do the players just wing it....Most of you have no idea about the details regarding this. 6% of the total entry pool will be withheld for the main event, but none of this goes to the dealers (except to pay their hourly pay). Poker dealers get paid a few bucks an hour and their living depends on the tips that they make. At tournaments, there is a tip box to which anyone could/should contribute (assuming that they finished in the money) and these funds are distributed equally among all of the dealers for the tournaments based on the number of hours that they dealt.I've never dealt professionally, but it's a tough job; especially when someone like me, who might know the rules better than they do, tells them that a mistake has been made and I won't back down until it's corrected. They also have to deal with people like Matusow, Tony G, Hellmuth, etc.Would you want to do that for a few bucks an hour? Link to post Share on other sites
DCSports92GSR 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 apparently raymer didn't tip..heard thru the grapevineRaymer tipped $50,000. Hachem tipped $100 ( suposedly )I wrote an article on it a while ago on gutshot, which can be found here:http://www.gutshot.com/e/article.php?full=...ox=a&search=ken Link to post Share on other sites
_Great_Dane_ 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Raymer tipped $50,000. Hachem tipped $100 ( suposedly )I wrote an article on it a while ago on gutshot, which can be found here:http://www.gutshot.com/e/article.php?full=...ox=a&search=ken Good article, Ken. I admit that I don't know all of the details, but what I said in my post is what I believe is true, and it bothers me when someone in a service position - waiter/waitress, dealer, etc. does a great job and is not rewarded for their efforts.Besides, whatever tip is given is tax deductible, anyway! Link to post Share on other sites
DCSports92GSR 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Good article, Ken. I admit that I don't know all of the details, but what I said in my post is what I believe is true, and it bothers me when someone in a service position - waiter/waitress, dealer, etc. does a great job and is not rewarded for their efforts.Besides, whatever tip is given is tax deductible, anyway!You don't have to tell me :)I'm a valet at the local casino... try running 250 yards to get someones bunk *** nasty car and get stiffed I think everyone should work in the service industry at least once in their life. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Danenman was the only one to tip at last years ME. Tipping isnt mandatory but he said he did it anyway, good karma. Link to post Share on other sites
GoStags92 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hachem didn't tip, I don't know about Raymer.I don't even know what I'd do in that spot though. Call me a nit, but I don't see why I should tip the dealers if I win a WSOP-event. Harrah's makes enough money off of the players to just pay the dealers decent wages.Speaking with some of the WSOP dealers, Hachem was planing on a $75,000, tip, but then good ol' Barry Shulman mentioned the amount that is taken out of the pool for the dealers, and encouraged Hachem not to tip anything extra. Link to post Share on other sites
JadeTiger 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Danenman was the only one to tip at last years ME. Tipping isnt mandatory but he said he did it anyway, good karma.if i win a million in a tourney id tip at least a $500. i think the more you win the less the tip increases. If i win 7 million id probably only tip $2000. 60k is still 60k and seems excessive. Link to post Share on other sites
rjf826 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 As I understand it, 3-5% of your profit is the standard tip. I mostly play at Foxwoods and they recently changed the tournament dealer pay structure to 75% of the previous year's average dealer income (hourly plus tips) because so few people were tipping. This is still less than a cash game dealer would make because they can move at a quicker pace and the more hands they deal, the more they make. The rest of their income is derived from tips, which sad to say are often forgotten. They know me to be one of the few people to tip after a cash, which has led to getting into tourneys late, which has led to more cashes and more tips. The moral of the story: The dealers/floor people are your friends. Don't be cheap. Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I've never dealt professionally, but it's a tough job; especially when someone like me, who might know the rules better than they do, tells them that a mistake has been made and I won't back down until it's corrected. They also have to deal with people like Matusow, Tony G, Hellmuth, etc.Would you want to do that for a few bucks an hour?Thats why they have college. So you can get a decent job and not have to bust your *** for low pay. Link to post Share on other sites
CombatGreen 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I would single out the dealer that dealt me the winning hand, and tip him outside the casino so that he didn't have to share it with the rest of the staff that are already being looked after by the 3% holdback.BTW, did you know that with the percentage that Harrah's keeps for themselves they earn 3rd place money in every single tourney?? (well at least that is what last years' rake came out to).And Dannenman.... he's a dude. Played in a tourney with him in April and he was easy going, humourous, and second off my table. A perfect scenario. The dealer mistook him for a casual acquaintance and started asking him about other 'common friends'... Steve took a while to catch on and figure out that this dude had no idea who he was... pretty sad for a tourney dealer... Link to post Share on other sites
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