colonel Feathers 5 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I almost didnt even ask that question, because I knew I was gonna get an anecdotal response.....point is... Millions of people see the sun rise, every day, and have for millions of years.. There is no debate about this.. No one could possibly deny that they see the sun...can the same really be said for jesus?NO it cant, which brings us back to my original point. Faith is what matters, if Jesus did an oprah style show every week, than faith wouldnt be an issue. For some reason which I cant explain faith seems to be the big issue with God.The story of doubting thomas is about faith, as is the centurions servant, and the thief on the cross. As I said before, the thief was the only one who was promised paradise by Jesus,he made no such promise to anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites
Mills 0 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 fine, but if thats your position, then why make the analogy to the sun rising in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 NO it cant, which brings us back to my original point. Faith is what matters, if Jesus did an oprah style show every week, than faith wouldnt be an issue. For some reason which I cant explain faith seems to be the big issue with God.The story of doubting thomas is about faith, as is the centurions servant, and the thief on the cross. As I said before, the thief was the only one who was promised paradise by Jesus,he made no such promise to anyone else.islam values and rewards faith. why aren't you a muslim? Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 islam values and rewards faith. why aren't you a muslim?prolly cause I dont have access to explosives. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 prolly cause I dont have access to explosives.i'm sure you can get assistance with that if you want to convert Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 i'm sure you can get assistance with that if you want to convert Maybe if they treated women better id look into it. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 "prolly cause I dont have access to explosives.""Maybe if they treated women better id look into it.""My own uneducated thoughts,Why do atheists find it necessary to seek out religion forums at all,they must not be totally secure in their points of view.I cant speak for BG, but if there was an atheist forum I wouldnt waste my time in itThe entire point of religion is faith,which is why God doesnt just open up the skies and proclaim his glory.When Jesus walked the earth, he had more respect for those who believed without proof, than even his own disciples.He never promised paradise to his disciples or anyone with direct witness to him, he only promised it to a thief who was crucified for his crimes, but had faith.So if you want me to scientificly prove Gods existence, not only wont I try, Ill just tell you to have a nice afterlife."Your idea of faith is fucking ridiculous. It's been implicated toward you but not stated outright so I'll clear it up for you; Your concept of "faith" is exactly, fucking exactly the same as that of Muslims and Mormons and Jews and Hindus and Krishnas and Scientologists and any other superstition you can find during your limited research... including literally hundreds or thousands that predate your own particular superstition from which your superstition draws its stupid-ass parables. The fact that one or the other *currently* mistreats women or emplaces bombs or rapes children or conducts the crusades is fucking fallacious1 and irrelevant. These things are fucking irrelevant when whatever god your cult believes in dictates these actions or can be interpreted to dictate these actions in whatever ignorant fucking Holy Text is written in His name. It all boils down to faith; the absence or dismissal or ignorance of reason in the name of some knuckle-dragging belief.You people are fucking absurd and if I didn't have the moral compass of reason founding my ethics I would leave you all to your monkey-ass ramblings and shamanism and beliefs and occupy a hut somewhere, procreating with the most genetically fit female I could physically locate.Instead I spend my time protecting a majority of momentarily benign cultists from a momentarily extreme cult while you sit here and blather about your warm fuzzy feelings and the truths betrayed therein. Jesus fucking, Allah sucking, Jehovah ramming Christ. "Ill just tell you to have a nice afterlife."And on this last, thinly veiled threat at an everlasting, tortuous hell... Fuck you, you ignorant child. I'm a better man than you will ever be. I've done more good than you will ever do. I've laid my life on the line for others more times than you've fucked your wife. You can kiss my half-black ass with this self-righteous, self-serving nonsense. Any god that would send the likes of me to hell and you to heaven is an abomination to human understanding and critical thought and deserves to be sphincter2-raped by vipers six or seven times for the offense of His very existence. Seriously though, take a train to the face. 1) fallacious:–adjective 1. containing a fallacy; logically unsound: fallacious arguments.2. deceptive; misleading: fallacious testimony.3. disappointing; delusive: a fallacious peace. 2) sphincter:–noun Anatomy1. A circular band of voluntary or involuntary muscle that encircles an orifice of the body or one of its hollow organs. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dang you easy to tilt. God loves you anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 It is difficult to articulate "Why" I believe wat I do. It just makes more sense to me that there is a purpose for life, If mankind and all the incredible strides we have made are just the result of totally random and haphazard circumstances of cosmological chance, I dont see the point of life at all.Well, maybe there is no point in life. Maybe there being a point to life or not doesn't really care about what you think makes sense. Maybe the idea of "making sense" is meaningless in terms of physics, cosmology, biology, and mathematics.Or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Dang you easy to tilt. God loves you anyway.Tilt?I came in, was awesome, then forgot about this thread till I saw LLY made a post.You don't have the brainpower to tilt me. You're just fodder for my beautiful misanthropy. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Tilt?I came in, was awesome, then forgot about this thread till I saw LLY made a post.You don't have the brainpower to tilt me. You're just fodder for my beautiful misanthropy.This post just sums you up completely. Your credibility is shot, your ideas meaningless, and anyone who resoonds to you further needs to be reminded of your "Beautiful Misanthropy".P.S. Dont need brainpower to tilt you. Your very existence tilts you. Very sad. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 and anyone who resoonds to you further needs to be reminded of your "Beautiful Misanthropy".You just resoonded to me. Don't you see that with your resoonse you've defeated your own post? If you resoond to this post you'll only make it worse. Better to withhold a resoonce and just take this verbal beating silently. Beautiful misanthropy continues. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 You just resoonded to me. Don't you see that with your resoonse you've defeated your own post? If you resoond to this post you'll only make it worse. Better to withhold a resoonce and just take this verbal beating silently. Beautiful misanthropy continues. Must reluctantly concede the point. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Must reluctantly concede the point.I refuse to accept your amiable concession and demand you continue polemic discourse!Meh. That's false vitriol -- someone conceding is my misanthropy's kryptonite. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Although condescension is indeed a tool of misanthropes, it loses something if not unleashed with haste. Link to post Share on other sites
potrzebie 1 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I'm just waiting for godot. Link to post Share on other sites
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