jfmclean 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Most of the evening all of the major poker sites have been either down, or extremely slow including: Full Tilt, Stars, and Party. Understandably if it was just network problems in one area then just one site would be affected, but since all 3 of the sites I play on are affected (network traces done from across the country); this leads me to believe that there are hackers out there attacking the servers of the major sites on its busiest tournament night.This happened to many sportsbooks several months ago for big events like the superbowl. The russian mafia was supposedly involved, with a process of hiring hackers with mad skill to send so much data at once to a sportsbook's server that it went down and thus could not take any bets. This method of hacking is called Denial of Service or (DDOS) and is impossible to stop, thus making it very dangerous. The difficulty with the hackers is that is it extremely hard to get enough power to even slow down the major poker sites for a couple peak hours.The hackers then contact the company in which they are DDOS'ing and proceed to try to extort them out of money. I believe the figure that came up to the sportsbooks around superbowl season was $50,000. The sad thing is, many of the major sportsbooks chose to just pay the $50k rather than losing millions in bets they would take. This could be what is happening again, there is very little else that could explain all of the major sites being down/extremely slowed for this period of time. If an area was having server/network problems they would be 100% down (not just slow). And the fact that all 3 major sites are indeed still up, but very very slow leads me to believe that hackers are involved this time. Hell maybe its the Washington St. Government hiring these kids? For more info search DDOS on google, or for a kid named "MafiaBoy" that shut down Yahoo/Ebay/etc for hours one afternoon and spent time in jail because of that (he was using the same DDOS attack).Hopefully this will give you some insight as to why the sites are slow and not just thinking its "tech problems".- Jimmy (hoodlum09) Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 this actually wouldn't surprise me at all Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Pokerroom is too cheap to get extorted. Link to post Share on other sites
pong1092 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Can we get to more important issue and find out where Jerry is? Link to post Share on other sites
i love lamp 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Hoodlum09,That is the most crap I have heard all day. That is 100% bluff. There is no hackers. Only your imagination! Link to post Share on other sites
erac22 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 party seems back to normal Link to post Share on other sites
UncleHoot 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I was playing an STT on Party last night during the time that everyone was having trouble. I got disconnected twice. One other player also got disconnected (twice), but the other 2 remaining players continued playing as if nothing was wrong (stealing my blinds!). Anyway, if that's the case, it could have have been an interruption which only affects players in certain geographical regions. I don't know how their routers are set up, but it is feasible.Distributed Denial of Service attacks generally have an objective. I'm not sure why someone would attack several of the major poker sites, but I've seen Party and Full-Tilt both go down at the same time (for more than an hour), so perhaps that's what's going on. But I would also consider that it could just be coincidence. Link to post Share on other sites
telescop 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 What would the reasoning be for attacking all the sites at the same time? Wouldn't it be easier to focus your efforts on one? Also, the sites you attack don't have to be as worried about losing customers if the other sites are down also. To conclude, I think it is BS or poorly planned hacking. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I was on Stars last night from 7PM to 10PM and there were no problems at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Incubus77546 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 One time I was playing in a home game and my friend... Lets call him a "hacker" spiked my drink with something and I passed out. When I woke up the tournament was over and I had lost... I was so disappointed that hackers were getting into my home game that I am never gonna play there ever again.Live games are totally rigged and full of hackers. Link to post Share on other sites
BSmitty23 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I dont think it was anyone hacking poker sites. I had the same issue yesterday which affected a few of the poker programs, but I was also having problems connecting to certain internet sites, which tells me that there were possibly some DNS issues going on with my ISP atleast, and since it seems to be relatively global, Im sure that there were the same DNS issues with other ISPs. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I was playing a turbo, and 4 or 5 guys in a 7 handed tabnle went away for like 20 minutes, allowing us to take their blinds at will. I never ewnt offline ONCE last night, and I played tourneys on UB, FTP, Stars and Party. *waits for the mafia accusation* Link to post Share on other sites
EmFactor 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Most of the evening all of the major poker sites have been either down, or extremely slow including: Full Tilt, Stars, and Party. Understandably if it was just network problems in one area then just one site would be affected, but since all 3 of the sites I play on are affected (network traces done from across the country); this leads me to believe that there are hackers out there attacking the servers of the major sites on its busiest tournament night.This happened to many sportsbooks several months ago for big events like the superbowl. The russian mafia was supposedly involved, with a process of hiring hackers with mad skill to send so much data at once to a sportsbook's server that it went down and thus could not take any bets. This method of hacking is called Denial of Service or (DDOS) and is impossible to stop, thus making it very dangerous. The difficulty with the hackers is that is it extremely hard to get enough power to even slow down the major poker sites for a couple peak hours.The hackers then contact the company in which they are DDOS'ing and proceed to try to extort them out of money. I believe the figure that came up to the sportsbooks around superbowl season was $50,000. The sad thing is, many of the major sportsbooks chose to just pay the $50k rather than losing millions in bets they would take. This could be what is happening again, there is very little else that could explain all of the major sites being down/extremely slowed for this period of time. If an area was having server/network problems they would be 100% down (not just slow). And the fact that all 3 major sites are indeed still up, but very very slow leads me to believe that hackers are involved this time. Hell maybe its the Washington St. Government hiring these kids? For more info search DDOS on google, or for a kid named "MafiaBoy" that shut down Yahoo/Ebay/etc for hours one afternoon and spent time in jail because of that (he was using the same DDOS attack).Hopefully this will give you some insight as to why the sites are slow and not just thinking its "tech problems".- Jimmy (hoodlum09)Denial of Service attacks are not impossible to stop, and they are more annoying than dangerous. Even though a site may be kicked offline, the attacker has no access to any sensitive information just by doing a denial of service alone. Yes online poker sites do lose money every second they are not up and running, but in my opinion the loss of sensitive data (account numbers, SSN's, etc) is far more dangerous.Like I said, DDoS attacks are not impossible to stop. Getting into too much info about the whole networking stuff behind it gets real messy very quickly, but basically the firewall outside the servers must be configured to drop the packets that are sent during an attack. Of course there is no such thing as "totally secure" but it's certainly not like the major online poker sites are helpless to stop this sort of thing.Just doesn't sound like Jimmy really knows much about it. Link to post Share on other sites
natan106 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 One time I was playing in a home game and my friend... Lets call him a "hacker" spiked my drink with something and I passed out. When I woke up the tournament was over and I had lost... I was so disappointed that hackers were getting into my home game that I am never gonna play there ever again.Live games are totally rigged and full of hackers.Not to mention I hear the RNG in most decks live are fugged up anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfly 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Hoodlum09,That is the most crap I have heard all day. That is 100% bluff. There is no hackers. Only your imagination!I think you meant to say "There ain't no hackers". Fantastic choice for a first post. Welcome aboard. Let the flaming begin. Link to post Share on other sites
eYank 0 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Can we get to more important issue and find out where Jerry is?hes hacking the sites, it was him Link to post Share on other sites
cu in 4years Dan 1 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Can we get to more important issue and find out where Jerry is?wtf actually happened to him?? Link to post Share on other sites
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