daniel and depression

[Gstauf5420 0]

If you haven't considered trying an SSRI antidepressent (prozac, zoloft, celexa-which is what I take-, etc.), Daniel, I highly recommend you talk to a doctor about it. The stuff really settles you and prevents falling into a funk. The side effects I've experienced are minimal (consisting of, quite frankly, only more difficulty achieving an orgasm and making it easier to get drunk). Those things aren't neccesarily bad either. lol. Anyway...

[elkang 0]

*groan*

[brisk 0]

breakups are tough ... before medication i'd try my proven method ... staying in pajamas all day playing xbox and drinking and discussing why things will be better in the long run with some good friends

[Kappa1873 0]

I'm not quite sure Daniel is clinically depressed, right now. He's just going through a funk due to some pretty awful stuff that has apparently gone on.This is life, and I'm sure he'll pull through. Now, on the other hand, if he were to still be feeling this way 2 months from now, he might want to see a doctor.We all have terrible times in our lives, but that doesn't mean it's depression. I'd honestly doubt he suffers from depression given his ability to maintain the emotional swings from playing poker (like the million dollar hit he took in one night.) These kind of swings would probably crush someone in the midst of an emotional disorder.

[Guest]

it's bad to be prescribed and take SSRI anti-depressants for those who don't need it.

[DeNuts1 0]

I bet Daniel is getting a kick out of all the "depression" advice he is getting.P.S. I vote there be no discussing of orgasms on the forum.

[Gstauf5420 0]

i would not be at all surprised if a substantial percentage of pro poker players suffer with depression. As a matter of fact, half of all people will suffer from clinical depression at some point in their life. A prominent psychiatrist once famously suggested that SSRI's should be put in the drinking water. When your mind's not distracted by depression and anxiety you perform better in anything--especially poker, it would seem.

[paco31179 0]

Dear Shauna, Daniel N. is in a funk right now. Please pay him a visit in your sexist lingerie and perform a show for him. My spirits among other things would be lifted. :shock: Im in too b iatchJ

[MDXS 0]

A prominent psychiatrist once famously suggested that SSRI's should be put in the drinking water.

That's the worst idea I've heard in a while.

[Lori 0]

That just shows how our world is today. When something goes wrong, everyone is looking for a "quick fix". Medication is not always the answer. Daniel is moping around for a couple days, and this is a normal response. Unless it goes on for weeks, he's just a normal human being with some issues to work out.

[KDawgCometh 2]

hmmm, lets see. He just breaks up with his fiance(not to mention the woman who changed him for the better) and he goes into a funk, yup he needs the meds no way around it. Any normal person shouldn't have that type of response to something like that(sarcasm fully intended)

[wrto4556 0]

*groan*

Im with you.

[mo'cash 0]

I can appreciate that breaking up with a girlfriend is tough, and whatever else is happening in his life may be also making him feel bad, but let's put his life into perpective:He is a multi millionaireHe is one of the best poker players in the worldHe is involved in one of the hottest "sports" at this timeHe has offers for business deals, endorsements, etc etc coming out of his earsThere are TONS of women who would love to be with himHe is becoming a famous personality-- famous enough that we are talking about him!He has many many friends that he grew up with that care about himHe has a mother that loves himDaniel: A little perpective... maybe that will cheer you up.Some advice from one fellow Canuck to another... There are hundreds, if not thousands of people that would trade their lives for yours. Buck up. You will be fine.mo'cash

[KDawgCometh 2]

I can appreciate that breaking up with a girlfriend is tough, and whatever else is happening in his life may be also making him feel bad, but let's put his life into perpective:He is a multi millionaireHe is one of the best poker players in the worldHe is involved in one of the hottest "sports" at this timeHe has offers for business deals, endorsements, etc etc coming out of his earsThere are TONS of women who would love to be with himHe is becoming a famous personality-- famous enough that we are talking about him!He has many many friends that he grew up with that care about himHe has a mother that loves himDaniel: A little perpective... maybe that will cheer you up.Some advice from one fellow Canuck to another... There are hundreds, if not thousands of people that would trade their lives for yours. Buck up. You will be fine.mo'cash

other than the last two things you wrote, none have any bearing on happines. Yes he has a lot of things, but that is not everything in life. The last two thigns are what matters and I'm pretty sure those people are taking care of him right now

[Wilderness 0]

I can appreciate that breaking up with a girlfriend is tough, and whatever else is happening in his life may be also making him feel bad, but let's put his life into perpective:He is a multi millionaireHe is one of the best poker players in the worldHe is involved in one of the hottest "sports" at this timeHe has offers for business deals, endorsements, etc etc coming out of his earsThere are TONS of women who would love to be with himHe is becoming a famous personality-- famous enough that we are talking about him!He has many many friends that he grew up with that care about himHe has a mother that loves himDaniel: A little perpective... maybe that will cheer you up.Some advice from one fellow Canuck to another... There are hundreds, if not thousands of people that would trade their lives for yours. Buck up. You will be fine.mo'cash

No offense, but just because he's rich and famous and people want to be him doesn't mean that he can't be unhappy. When you have your feelings hurt by someone close to you (ie breaking up with a fiance), its not going to go away just because he has money or is well known. He'll deal with it as anyone does, get through it, get over it, and move on with his life but it takes time and I'm sure his friends/family will be there to support him through it.

[strategy 4]

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[Munky 0]

Know what the funny thing is? 100+ years ago, if someone was depressed, they usually just got over it. Now you need a chemical salve to rub on the problems of life and hope that they go away... the only question is... what caused the depression in the first place? It's not a chemical imbalance, it's an emotion that SHOULD be felt when you lose a loved one. If everyone was numb to the point of not crying or not being "depressed" when they lose a loved one, that's almost not being human.Let Daniel get over it (he will, he seems like a pretty strong guy), he needs friends, not drugs. He's feeling the way any person SHOULD feel when something crappy happens... it's normal...A client of mine had her son on prozac, it caused epileptic seizures so bad that it almost killed him. I also got the pleasure of meeting with a few wonderful people who had some not-so wonderful stories about themselves or loved ones on these antidepressants. They included attempted suicide, suicide, murder, attempted murder, feeling emotionless, feeling as if they hate everybody... sure you won't be depressed, but rage with violent tendencies is better huh?I'm very anti-antidepressant.Feel better soon Daniel!

[Mr Monkey 0]

This is crazy. Its none of our business. Some of you should worry about yourselves rather then trying to be daniels shrink.

[TejasPoker 0]

Ditto!...

This is crazy. Its none of our business. Some of you should worry about yourselves rather then trying to be daniels shrink.

Screw the drugs, I can just see Daniel showing up at the final table, acting like Anna Nicole Smith waving his arms around LMAO :DP.S. I always found some fresh trim helps!

[mo'cash 0]

I figured that if Daniel read what was posted about his life, it would help him feel better.Whenever I am upset about something, or get dealt an emotional blow, having friends and family focus on the positive usually helps. The faster you can put the "bad" stuff behind you, the better.mo'cash

[adamkadmon 0]

this was taken from the new york times and is by jon gerter, i will paraphrase to the best of my ability.if daniel gilbert is right then you are wrong. That is to say , if dan is right then you are wrong to believe that a new car will make you as happy as imagine. You are wrong to think that anew kithchen will make you as happy for as long as you imagine. You are wrong to think you will be more unhapppy with a single big setback ( abroken wrist, a broken heart) than with a less chronic one ( a trick knee, a tense marriage). you are wrong to assume that job failure will be crushing. you are wrong to expect that a death in the family will leave you bereft for year upon year, forever and ever. You are even wrong to rekon that a cheeseburger (gardenburger),you order in a resterraunt-this week, next week,a year from now, it doesn't really matter when- will definately hit the spot. That is because when it comes down to predicting how you will feel in the future you are most likely wrong.a professor in Harvard's dept. of psychology, Gilbert likes to tell people that he studies happiness. but it would be more precise to say that gilbert- along with psychologist Tim Wilson of the university of virgina, the economist george Lowenstein of Carnegie Mellon, and the psychologist ( and Nobel laureate in economics) Daniel Kahneman of princeton- has taken the lead in studying a certain type of emotional and behavioral prediction. In the past few years, these four men have begun to question the decision making process that shapes our sense of well being: How do we predict what will us happy or unhappy- and then how do we feel after the actual experience? For example, how do we suppose we'll feel if ou favorite football team wins or loses, and then how do we really feel a few days after the game? How do we predict we'll feel after buying jewlery, having children, buying a big house, or being rich? And then how do we regard the outcomes? According to a small corp of academics, almost all actions- the decision to buy jewlery, have kids, buying a big house, or work exhaustivly for a fatter paycheck- are based on our predictions of the emotional consequences of these events.Untill recently,this was unchartered territory. how we forcast our feelings, and whether those predictions match our future emotional states, had never been the stuff of lab research. But in scores of experiements , Gilbet, Wilson, Kahneman and Loewenstein have made a slew of observations that undermin a number of fundemental assumptions: namely that we humans understand what we wnat and are adept at improving our well being- that we are good at maximizing our utility, in the jargon of tradtional economics. Further, their work their work on prediction raises some unsettling and somewhat more personal questions. To understand affective forecasting, as gilbert has termed these studies, is to wonder if everything you have ever thought about life choices, and about happiness, has been at the least somewhat naive and, at worst greatly mistaken.The problem, as gilbert and company have come to discover, is that we falter when it comes to imagining how we will feel about something in the future. It isn't that we get the big things wrong. We know we will experience visits to Le Cirque and to the periodontist differently; we can accurately predict that we'd rather be stuck in Montauk than in a midtown elevator. What gilbert has found, however , is that we overestimate the intensity and the duration of our emotional reations-our "affect"- to future events. In other words, we might believe that a new BMW will make life perfect. But it will almost certainly be less exciting than we had anticipated; nor will it excite us for as long as we had predicted.Anyhow my dog just ripped one and I'm going to go spread some manure in the garden so I;m off. I found this research interesting and true to life and thought it could offer us some insight into this thing we call us. Best of wishes daniel and remember what my grandma used to tell me when life got hard " mark, life is hard". she also used to say that if it wasn't going to be important in a hundred years then it probably isn;t that important. this undermining my problems always got to me a little at the time but now that she's gone i'm glad her words were heard. best of wishes and you can always remember that you are in a big forums hearts.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

Yikes, this is prety scary? It goes to show you how quick people are to medicate when there is nothing at wrong wrong with somebody? This fascination with ADD and clinical depression... wow. I was feeling blue for like 15 minutes... I'd hardly that being depressed

[Uppie_ 0]

I have to agree with daniel completly it seems we are so quick these days to medicate and lable someone instead of actually treat the problem or just let them figure it out for themselves.