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they only have limit poker at the casinos in puerto rico, but you can find young kids from the US that aren't allowed to gamble at home and have no idea what they are doing. i'd say it is a good place to get your roll started again. if you supported yourself playing poker for 4 years i assume you won't be able to take the 9-5 grind so you'll be back eventually....good luck.

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The OP may or may not come back to poker, but Im surprised that people think it's impossible to get away from the game.... When things go rough like they did for rwood there are many things that are far more enjoyable in life then slaving away in front of a computer screen.

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unfortunately for him, he won't be able to spend 20 days in puerto rico without stumbling across a ton of super soft live games. every decent-sized hotel in PR has a casino!

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aonther lesson in proper bankroll.I'm guessing you did not move down when you got to say 250 BB.
My thoughts exactly. And losing your entire bankroll when you said your downswing stated in April is insane. You tilted, didn't move down when you should of, and this troubles me:
and it was taking longer and longer to grind out profits.
You can't force yourself to try to make a profit when you are in a downswing. This idea of trying to get a profit likely led you to play under your 500BB bankroll, thus losing your poker roll.I feel sorry for you.And for anyone else who is in a downswing, please read this great blog from David Tuchman from Live at the Bike:May 31, 2006 7:00 pmLast time we spoke, I was whining about how bad I was running. How boring, I hope you didn't listen.As far as I'm concerned, I don't believe in "running bad" - More often than not, you have a bad day or two which is to be expected and then you start making "adjustments" - Why do we make adjustments? Well, we get bad beat or we put our money in with a real strong second best hand and this all begins to affect our game. But why does it affect our game? If you normally win and suddenly you have a bad week - you begin to wonder why? And you should. If you know me, you know I believe in accountability. Be responsible for yourself, especially at the poker table. If you have a bad day or two or twenty - try to figure out why? Are you losing with strong hands. Are you bluffing the wrong guys? Are your reads off? More often than not, it's a combination of things. For me, it became fairly obvious. I lost a few "cold-deck" hands - you know, top two pair against bottom set...a flush to a higher flush - you know these. And then I started making adjustments...These adjustments can kill us - Nothing was wrong with your game...well, maybe. But now, you've tinkered with it and you're really screwed. Trust yourself. Trust your game.In the end, I have to hold myself accountable. I made too many bluffs against the wrong players at the wrong times. I didn't play aggressive with a big hand because I was scared he might out draw me. I folded when I should be calling. I called when I should be raising. And I raised when I probably should have folded. You get the point?I hope so...Another thing I noticed about myself was this. As a prop, I was on a strict schedule - essentially forcing me to play thirty hours of poker a week, but now I was on my own. If I didn't feel like playing, I didn't. Instead of playing eight hour sessions, I was playing two hour sessions. Instead of sitting patiently and allowing the game to come to me, I began forcing the issue. I put pressure on myself to make more money too quickly.Poker is a game of patience. A game of discipline. I truly believe you can pick your spots - let the game come to you. Any of you athletes out there will understand that analogy.While in New York, I finally figured it out. I wasn't running bad. I just lost a few nights in a row and then I played badly. I don't run bad...I play bad. How about you? Next time you think you're "running bad" - think again. Stop blaming someone else and look at yourself in the mirror. That's what I did - I tell ya, it was almost liberating....the honesty that is.June should be a good month. On Second thought...lets make June a Great month!Until next time, I'll see ya Under The Gun.You can read more here:http://www.liveatthebike.com/tuchman_under_the_gun/index.php
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you guys are right, i didnt exercise "proper bankroll management". and like i said in my original post, i probably tilted away 10-20%, most of that being the end of my bankroll ( the last 500 ) . for the most part, i believe going broke isnt buying in to your normal game with all your roll intact, it's a longer process... i took a little time off. redeposited 1k to play 2/4 and grind...things went downhill and i tilted the last 400 off the last day. so i technically still have 3k+ intact of my usable bankroll.when my account hit zero that day i decided that THAT was MY busto. and that i feel my time is done. i am more mentally tired than having my finances exhausted, as i have over 30k saved from the last 3 years that i plan on living on while i finish my last 2 years in college. i think for some people going bust is the bankroll, and for others it's the mental side that you go bust. i have a million times more respect for all the lifelong grinders out there...sometimes you feel on top of the world, and other times down in hell. anyways, maybe i will be back, maybe i'll start my part time job after the summer, and say "**** this ****, im a poker player." but who knows. anyways, i more just posted the orginial to say thanks to all you fcp posters. fcp honestly made my poker career A LOT more fun. logging on and reading a bunch of funny *** posts from back in the day like farrell's and AKAconditioners, and the flame wars with iowa's finest. LHE strat with Actuary and Zach. hopefully i'll be back, but for now, you couldnt pay me to play right now. cheers. good luck, espescially everyone at the wsop this year. ryan.

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aonther lesson in proper bankroll.I'm guessing you did not move down when you got to say 250 BB.
That is completely wrong. The 300BB is based upon the idea that if you lose, you will still have a substantial amount to shield you from bad variance. It assumes you playing at the same limit until you go broke or move up.
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Nothing wrong with walking away. You can always come back, that's the beauty of it. In the future, be it friday or two years, you know you can do it. You've been successful. Sometimes, it's just better to walk away BEFORE you lose it all.Have a good vacaton.

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bmwmcoupe Posted Today, 7:29 PM where you play nl or limit? what kind of numbers where you bringing in every month? what site did u play on?
i played Limit Hold Em as my game for daily grinding. Depending on how much i had on the site, and other factors, i would play between 2/4 and 5/10. for the first part of the time supporting myself, i played mostly 2/4, then moved up to 3/6 after i was completely destroying 2/4, and so on. overall, even with my downswing, pokertracker has me at 2.81 bb/100 for all LHE games played over the last 3 years. 2.81bb/100 multitabling was bringing me in a good amount each month, usually in the ballpark of 3k a month, sometimes a little lower and sometiems a little higher, best month i raked in a little over 5k. with pretty low living expenses, and CSU tuition, much lower than private or UC, it was much more than enough to live off of. i played on a lot of different sites, always checking out new ones, i mostly enjoyed party, the pokerroom skins, and fulltilt. i never got to check out bodog. for fun on the side i would play low limit variations of stud, and was lucky enough to have ALF13 tutor me a bit on PLO, and i can say with his help i can crush most low PLO games now. fun fun. but i wouldnt count that in my profits, just my mess around money... you gotta have a little fun.cheers. ryan.
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i played Limit Hold Em as my game for daily grinding. Depending on how much i had on the site, and other factors, i would play between 2/4 and 5/10. for the first part of the time supporting myself, i played mostly 2/4, then moved up to 3/6 after i was completely destroying 2/4, and so on. overall, even with my downswing, pokertracker has me at 2.81 bb/100 for all LHE games played over the last 3 years. 2.81bb/100 multitabling was bringing me in a good amount each month, usually in the ballpark of 3k a month, sometimes a little lower and sometiems a little higher, best month i raked in a little over 5k. with pretty low living expenses, and CSU tuition, much lower than private or UC, it was much more than enough to live off of. i played on a lot of different sites, always checking out new ones, i mostly enjoyed party, the pokerroom skins, and fulltilt. i never got to check out bodog. for fun on the side i would play low limit variations of stud, and was lucky enough to have ALF13 tutor me a bit on PLO, and i can say with his help i can crush most low PLO games now. fun fun. but i wouldnt count that in my profits, just my mess around money... you gotta have a little fun.cheers. ryan.
Technically, if you've save 30 K from poker, you are not broke at all. In my mind you have a huge bankroll. So, you had a downswing, big deal. I wish I could say that I made 30 k playing cards.
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i made more than that...that is my savings. like i said, didnt go broke financially. just done doing the grind. i've seen a lot of posts from people talking about how nice it is to have a medical and dental coverage plan from your employer. i have a very serious girlfriend, and im sure i'll have to take those things into consideration. i've just decided to focus more on other things such as school instead of making playing poker my number one priority. who knows, like the other guys said, i'll probably be back... most likely when i need money again i will be back...lol...cheers.

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That is completely wrong. The 300BB is based upon the idea that if you lose, you will still have a substantial amount to shield you from bad variance. It assumes you playing at the same limit until you go broke or move up.
true.howeverit presumes you plugged in the correct win rate and variance
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true.howeverit presumes you plugged in the correct win rate and variance
And there's still like a 5% chance you'll go broke with only 300BB. That's why dropping down when you reach 200-250BB is a good idea.
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And there's still like a 5% chance you'll go broke with only 300BB. That's why dropping down when you reach 200-250BB is a good idea.
and, i'm pretty sure that once you drop to say 150 BB..you're ROR is no longer the same as it was at 300 BB; but I can't back it up. Except that then it would be the same if you had 1000BB, and that's not logicalCopernicus?
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