If You Knew There Was God, A "god", Etc...

[DonkSlayer 1]

ASSUME you have a divine revelation that convinces you of the existence of God, a god or gods, that vindicates one of the world's notable religions and their texts, theology, etc.DO NOT ASSUME that your personal principles or "former" beliefs are in line with this at all. To clarify, assume that if you are an Hindu, you have had a monotheistic revelation. If you are a Fundamentalist Christian, assume some sort of Buddhist/Tao, Fundie Muslim or polytheistic revelation.What do you do? Would you follow what was revealed, KNOWING it is the way to not burn? Would you embrace something that was completely against your pillars of understanding or thinking, or would you continue down the particular path you are on now?Athiests, would you be able to change your lifestyle/thinking to adapt?Not-needed answers are "Oh I know my religion is right" or "Oh I know there is no god or gods."

[screech 0]

I would change my ways in a heartbeat. I can't imagine that any reasonable person wouldn't.

[Canada 0]

I would change my ways in a heartbeat. I can't imagine that any reasonable person wouldn't.

whs

[Filesharer 0]

I'd change, but I'd be hugely pissed off since I'd basically be a slave to this guy telling me what to do on pain of death.

[DonkSlayer 1]

Nobody gonna still fight the power, huh?

[Filesharer 0]

Nobody wants to get smoten.

[crowTrobot 2]

Nobody gonna still fight the power, huh?

you'll have to pick a specific deity if you want a specific reaction.if the christian god as described in the bible actually existed i'd continue to ignore him because i'd have no interest in worshiping such a sadistist, cruel god. just send me to hell already.

[FOOSE1 0]

if the christian god as described in the bible actually existed i'd continue to ignore him because i'd have no interest in worshiping such a sadistist, cruel god. just send me to hell already.

. . . careful what you wish for . . .

[crowTrobot 2]

. . . careful what you wish for . . .

it worked for bon scott apparently

[speedz99 145]

you'll have to pick a specific deity if you want a specific reaction.if the christian god as described in the bible actually existed i'd continue to ignore him because i'd have no interest in worshiping such a sadistist, cruel god. just send me to hell already.

liar. if you found out the christian god existed and would send you to hell if you didn't obey...you would change. is it really worth sticking to your "sinning" ways if it means an ETERNITY in hell?i call shenanigans

[crowTrobot 2]

liar. if you found out the christian god existed and would send you to hell if you didn't obey...you would change. is it really worth sticking to your "sinning" ways if it means an ETERNITY in hell?i call shenanigans

no shenanigans. however the biblical christian god is described as so sadistic, irrational, and self-contradictory that he's obviously just nonsensical fiction. if an interested creator existed he would be very different, so asking how you would react to the christian god is a pretty meaningless exercise. might as well ask how you would react if the easter bunny god appeared and ordered you to stick eggshells up your butt or burn in boiling chocolate for eternity.

[Hobbes 1]

no shenanigans. however the biblical christian god is described as so sadistic, irrational, and self-contradictory that he's obviously just nonsensical fiction. if an interested creator existed he would be very different, so asking how you would react to the christian god is a pretty meaningless exercise. might as well ask how you would react if the easter bunny god appeared and ordered you to stick eggshells up your butt or burn in boiling chocolate for eternity.

I'd go with eggshells up the butt rather than burn in boiling chocolate for eternity.See how easy that was to just answer the question?

[DonkSlayer 1]

I'd go with eggshells up the butt rather than burn in boiling chocolate for eternity.See how easy that was to just answer the question?

Very thoughtful.

[Loismustdie 0]

you'll have to pick a specific deity if you want a specific reaction.if the christian god as described in the bible actually existed i'd continue to ignore him because i'd have no interest in worshiping such a sadistist, cruel god. just send me to hell already.

Which is why you are the absolute worst person to even speak on these things, because you have no clue. If the christian God appeared to you in all his might, and decided to confront you about who you are and the general disrespect towards him, you would beg for your life and crap yourself in an instant. The thing is, why would he? Why should he? In his eyes, your beliefs and general outlook are useless and you are nothing, and will be treated as such. I hate to go to this level but your disrespect for God and complete lack of real knowledge is just atrociuos, and while God would have me to just ignore you I have to react- it's in my blood.

[crowTrobot 2]

Which is why you are the absolute worst person to even speak on these things, because you have no clue.

you're the worst person to speak because you already fear hell. i don't.

If the christian God appeared to you in all his might, and decided to confront you about who you are and the general disrespect towards him, you would beg for your life and crap yourself in an instant.

nah. first thing i'd do is ask him why the his "inspired word" (the bible) is an insult to the intelligence he gave me.

[Loismustdie 0]

you're the worst person to speak because you already fear hell. i don't.nah. first thing i'd do is ask him why the his "inspired word" (the bible) is an insult to the intelligence he gave me.

Actually, I don't fear hell- I fear God who can put me there. Fear of hell is counterproductive, and really if your doing what you should it should not be an issue.

[Canada 0]

Actually, I don't fear hell- I fear God who can put me there. Fear of hell is counterproductive, and really if your doing what you should it should not be an issue.

So I am assuming that you would drop Christianity in a flash under the OP's criteria

[Hobbes 1]

So I am assuming that you would drop Christianity in a flash under the OP's criteria

This is an odd discussion. People believe what they believe because they think it is right. If you are proven to be wrong, why wouldn't you change your beliefs?

[Loismustdie 0]

So I am assuming that you would drop Christianity in a flash under the OP's criteria

I would have too, because one of two things would have had to occur. Since I know that God no longer appears to us, and hasn't since biblical times any sort of happening that I would interpet as a visit from God, I would have to assume that I lost my mind, and heaven is no longer an option anyhow. If some other deity appeared to me, maybe I am crazy at that point or maybe said deity is the one to follow. Either way Christianity would no longer be an option- either because it's wrong or because I am no longer of sound mind.

This is an odd discussion. People believe what they believe because they think it is right. If you are proven to be wrong, why wouldn't you change your beliefs?

For the same reason miserable people stay married- you go with what you know. I have personally seen people say , " I can see your point, I really can, but my dad was(insert religion) and that would mean that he went to hell, so I am going to have to stick with what I am because I just can't believe that. " It is not easy for people to change, we are a stubborn race- it's one of the reasons why it's plain as a creation we were not created to be forever, we are a toy of sorts.

[crowTrobot 2]

This is an odd discussion. People believe what they believe because they think it is right. If you are proven to be wrong, why wouldn't you change your beliefs?

it's not just about belief, it's also about whether you would be able to love/worship a specific deity if he existed. if the christian god is described accurately in the bible i wouldn't be able to love/worship him no matter what (unless he brainwashed me to do so lol).

Either way Christianity would no longer be an option- either because it's wrong or because I am no longer of sound mind.

how do you know you aren't crazy (or at least mentally deluded when it comes to christianity) RIGHT NOW?

we are a toy of sorts.

how can you love god if that's all you think we are to him? pretty much my point - if there really was a creator who needed us for some kind of a fulfilling personal relationship with him he would logically be handling things much differently than the christian god supposedly is.

[DonkSlayer 1]

Yeah, I think a simplified version (didn't ask it b/c i wanted more than "yes" or "no") is "would you worship for the sake of salvation." I picked alternatives that I thought would be the most abhorrent to those who believe/disbelieve in a particular way for that very reason.

[Loismustdie 0]

it's not just about belief, it's also about whether you would be able to love/worship a specific deity if he existed. if the christian god is described accurately in the bible i wouldn't be able to love/worship him no matter what (unless he brainwashed me to do so lol).how do you know you aren't crazy (or at least mentally deluded when it comes to christianity) RIGHT NOW?how can you love god if that's all you think we are to him? pretty much my point - if there really was a creator who needed us for some kind of a fulfilling personal relationship with him he would logically be handling things much differently than the christian god supposedly is.

Thats a silly argument- how do YOU know you aren't crazy or deluded right now? Lets make the argument that the insane asylum is filled with the normal ones and the rest of us just happened to come into power and locked them up, just for the fun of it. Thats kind of my point with you- it's all spaghetti monsters and jesus bunnies and conjecture- if the only way to disprove me is through contentious fantasy then you have got nothing. Newsflash- we are Gods toy. The earth, for all intents and purposes and the things in it were made for his pleasure, much like I might build a train track. He decided to have some fun. I don't know why- boredom maybe? I am glad that he did- because of this I am able to be here on this earth and enjoy this life, I can love, I can hate, I can share experiences, learn from them, I can see and do, all impossible if it were not for God coming up with me, giving my soul a shell as it were. Instead of having a robotic toy, he decided to give his toys choices, which of course he left up to them- the choice is always yours. Sin is your choice- we are never forced to do so. The outcome of this life, whether God knows it or not, is molded by you and you alone. There is no escaping that, no matter how many questions you ask, or how much you think in your prideful state that Gods way is not good enough- what you think doesn't matter. You cannot see that because you cannot see past the temple of you, which is sad because you would not even be here if it were not for his plan.

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Newsflash- we are Gods toy. The earth, for all intents and purposes and the things in it were made for his pleasure, much like I might build a train track. He decided to have some fun. I don't know why- boredom maybe? I am glad that he did- because of this I am able to be here on this earth and enjoy this life, I can love, I

This is the funniest thing I have ever read.But, if you are serious, this implies that humans are not above things like dogs and other animals in gods eyes. It also means you are crazy and deluded and should be locked up.

[Loismustdie 0]

This is the funniest thing I have ever read.But, if you are serious, this implies that humans are not above things like dogs and other animals in gods eyes. It also means you are crazy and deluded and should be locked up.

Actually, he does speak of times when a man is nothing more than a dog. I am not sure how that is implied in what I said- can you read? I think I asked that before, but, seriously, look into it, it would really help you out in your endeavors.

This is the funniest thing I have ever read.But, if you are serious, this implies that humans are not above things like dogs and other animals in gods eyes. It also means you are crazy and deluded and should be locked up.

I love how you never have an argument except crazy or deluded and should be locked up. And, it doesn't imply that!!! However.... guess what? In gods eyes, you are like a drop in the bucket- how important you are to him is entirely up to you. Thats why it says that the fervent prayer of a rightouess man availeth much, and not the other way around.

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Actually, he does speak of times when a man is nothing more than a dog. I am not sure how that is implied in what I said- can you read? I think I asked that before, but, seriously, look into it, it would really help you out in your endeavors. I love how you never have an argument except crazy or deluded and should be locked up. And, it doesn't imply that!!! However.... guess what? In gods eyes, you are like a drop in the bucket- how important you are to him is entirely up to you. Thats why it says that the fervent prayer of a rightouess man availeth much, and not the other way around.

Lois,I too favor water drops that work hard to appease me and all my divinity. I think your quest for god would be a lot more worthwhile if you turned inward than trying to blindly follow evrey last detail written in a very ancient book of whom you know nothing of its authors.The above advice is free. I won't bother you anymore.