Scott Fischman Is Crazy

[Jdr999 0]

From: http://www.cardplayer.com/in_the_tank/?id=23"The transition between cash games and tournaments is in your strategy as well as in your mindset. For example, I am perfectly willing to lay down pocket aces in the first hand of a major tournament, which I would never do in a cash game, because the value of my remaining in the tournament is much greater than the possibility of being eliminated."WTF?

[alster10 0]

From: http://www.cardplayer.com/in_the_tank/?id=23"The transition between cash games and tournaments is in your strategy as well as in your mindset. For example, I am perfectly willing to lay down pocket aces in the first hand of a major tournament, which I would never do in a cash game, because the value of my remaining in the tournament is much greater than the possibility of being eliminated."WTF?

What do you expect from a guy as ugly as him....

[Steamed Rice 0]

What do you expect from a guy as ugly as him....

ive seen uglier

[Demonde 0]

[diamondhead 0]

From: http://www.cardplayer.com/in_the_tank/?id=23"The transition between cash games and tournaments is in your strategy as well as in your mindset. For example, I am perfectly willing to lay down pocket aces in the first hand of a major tournament, which I would never do in a cash game, because the value of my remaining in the tournament is much greater than the possibility of being eliminated."WTF?

Not so crazy.

[Str8ballin4free 0]

I happen to know Scott Fishman and just got off the phone with him...He has confirmed to me that he meant post flop. His exact words were "No way would I fold aces preflop on the first hand of a major tournament. If I'm going to call all ins later with AA I will certainly do it on the first hand." Rest easy my op friend, rest easy.

[KowboyKoop 0]

I'd lay down Aces very very early in a tournament if there were 4 people all in who had me covered or had close to as much as me already ahead of me..I'd consider it...but seeing as how that situation will almost never ever ever happen in a live tourney.......

[punk1o1 0]

I hope hes not talking preflop

[....Ian.... 0]

dude's got a couple bracelets, so i am gonna assume that he means postflop

[punk1o1 0]

dude's got a couple bracelets, so i am gonna assume that he means postflop

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[solo319 0]

I kind of understand what he is saying although I wouldnt do it, your tournament chips have much more value later in tournaments when the blinds increase than in the beginning. Another theory is gambling much more in the beginning with modest hands to huge raises to win a huge pot. for example 10000 starting 25/50 blinds some idiot raises like 1000 and you call with a random hand. If you miss the flop and fold both of you are basically in the same situation- he will have 11000 you will have 9000 with the blinds at 25/50 not very much difference there.

[Jdr999 0]

I happen to know Scott Fishman and just got off the phone with him...He has confirmed to me that he meant post flop. His exact words were "No way would I fold aces preflop on the first hand of a major tournament. If I'm going to call all ins later with AA I will certainly do it on the first hand." Rest easy my op friend, rest easy.

He needs to write better to avoid this confusion.

[jaaaaakke 0]

"I'd lay down Aces very very early in a tournament if there were 4 people all in who had me covered or had close to as much as me already ahead of me..I'd consider it...but seeing as how that situation will almost never ever ever happen in a live tourney......."dude, hell no

[thepelz 0]

Laying down aces sucks, but sometimes you have to do it, even in a cash game. In fact, the last two times I've had them in a cash game, I had to do it. The first time I was playing 3/6 at the local casino, the top pair on board paired and there was a raise and a reraise, and I dumped them. The second time was in 1/2 no limit, I tried to get too fancy with them in a straddle pot, got like 6 callers, and had to fold them to two all ins on the turn. Both times the hands were shown down and it was a correct fold. Even in a cash game, you have to fold them sometimes, and it's never fun, but if you don't do it in the right situation you'll just end up losing all your money with them. Doyle Brunson says you'll either win a small pot or lose a big one with aces, and if you refuse to lay them down under any circumstances, this is especially true.

[jaaaaakke 0]

Laying down aces sucks, but sometimes you have to do it, even in a cash game. In fact, the last two times I've had them in a cash game, I had to do it. The first time I was playing 3/6 at the local casino, the top pair on board paired and there was a raise and a reraise, and I dumped them. The second time was in 1/2 no limit, I tried to get too fancy with them in a straddle pot, got like 6 callers, and had to fold them to two all ins on the turn. Both times the hands were shown down and it was a correct fold. Even in a cash game, you have to fold them sometimes, and it's never fun, but if you don't do it in the right situation you'll just end up losing all your money with them. Doyle Brunson says you'll either win a small pot or lose a big one with aces, and if you refuse to lay them down under any circumstances, this is especially true.

i believe we are talking PRE-FLOP here.

[Kid DynOmite 0]

Ganja smokers fold aces preflop

[loogie 115]

Ganja smokers fold aces preflop

Only happened to me once, and only because I thought the fold button was actually the button for ordering a pizza.

[jaaaaakke 0]

Only happened to me once, and only because I thought the fold button was actually the button for ordering a pizza.

hahaha

[XXEddie 0]

for those without a brain, he means after the flop

[oldirtyharry 0]

why even post? we all know what he means...

[Jdr999 0]

why even post? we all know what he means...

It's because he said he would never fold Aces in a cash game. There are tons of times you would fold Aces post-flop in a cash game. Just bad writing.

[Kid DynOmite 0]

Ganja smokers fold aces preflop

Yes. i did it once from the bb so the hand would end and i could hear the really cool dealing sound... sounds kind like Dark Side of the Moon yeah?