Chicken Or The Egg?

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Basically, what it comes down to is you fear God even more than I do in that you are terrified at even allowing the idea of him. Fear is a start, it's just focused in the wrong direction.

This statement is unnerving. You imply that you believe in God because of the consequences involved in not believing if you are wrong. In that case, do you really believe at all, or are you just in denial?I do not believe in God, but I do not fear God. I would rather he existed. I would rather there be more good in the world. I would rather be comforted with the idea of a life after death, but I cannot because I have reasoned that logically it is more likely that there is no God, and if I were to falsely retain the notion that God exists I would be denying what I truly believe, and then I would be living in fear.I cannot say whether God does or does not exist, but I'd rather follow my beliefs than follow my fears.

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This statement is unnerving. You imply that you believe in God because of the consequences involved in not believing if you are wrong. In that case, do you really believe at all, or are you just in denial?I do not believe in God, but I do not fear God. I would rather he existed. I would rather there be more good in the world. I would rather be comforted with the idea of a life after death, but I cannot because I have reasoned that logically it is more likely that there is no God, and if I were to falsely retain the notion that God exists I would be denying what I truly believe, and then I would be living in fear.I cannot say whether God does or does not exist, but I'd rather follow my beliefs than follow my fears.

I didn't imply that at all.

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I didn't imply that at all.

You're right.You didn't imply it.You said it.

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This is one of the most simplest questions of all timeAnswer: The EggProve: Reptiles laid eggs, well before the chicken ever existed.

True...Egg....this is like asking what came first, the tadpole or the frog...bacteria or maggot ...easy question

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You're right.You didn't imply it.You said it.

No, I didn't. I fear God because I believe in what he is and is capable of. I said that his fear was the fear of there actually being a God, versus fear of a God. Meaning, he is afraid of the very thought of answering to someone. How you guys came up with the opposite I have no idea.

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No, I didn't. I fear God because I believe in what he is and is capable of. I said that his fear was the fear of there actually being a God, versus fear of a God. Meaning, he is afraid of the very thought of answering to someone. How you guys came up with the opposite I have no idea.

Probably because you are retarded and make no sense

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We have fossil eggs much older than any bird fossils.

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Probably because you are retarded and make no sense

This coming from a guy who's quote says do as many drugs as you can while you can. Enjoy.

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This coming from a guy who's quote says do as many drugs as you can while you can. Enjoy.

I will enjoy all the wonderful experiences life has to offer, while you continue to live in the prison of your own mind. Hey, but at least you'll be a VIP for eternity when you die.

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I will enjoy all the wonderful experiences life has to offer, while you continue to live in the prison of your own mind. Hey, but at least you'll be a VIP for eternity when you die.

Just don't go Stu Ungar on us ok..... Hate to have that brilliant poker mind go to waste...I've read many of your posts in strat.

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Just don't go Stu Ungar on us ok..... Hate to have that brilliant poker mind go to waste...I've read many of your posts in strat.

LOL, don't worry, it's just a sig. I don't do many drugs, and when I do, it's relatively infrequent.

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LONDON, England -- It's a question that has baffled scientists, academics and pub bores through the ages: What came first, the chicken or the egg?Now a team made up of a geneticist, philosopher and chicken farmer claim to have found an answer. It was the egg.Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.Professor John Brookfield, a specialist in evolutionary genetics at the University of Nottingham, told the UK Press Association the pecking order was clear.The living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it would develop into, he said."Therefore, the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg," he added. "So, I would conclude that the egg came first."The same conclusion was reached by his fellow "eggsperts" Professor David Papineau, of King's College London, and poultry farmer Charles Bourns.Mr Papineau, an expert in the philosophy of science, agreed that the first chicken came from an egg and that proves there were chicken eggs before chickens.He told PA people were mistaken if they argued that the mutant egg belonged to the "non-chicken" bird parents."I would argue it is a chicken egg if it has a chicken in it," he said."If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg."Bourns, chairman of trade body Great British Chicken, said he was also firmly in the pro-egg camp.He said: "Eggs were around long before the first chicken arrived. Of course, they may not have been chicken eggs as we see them today, but they were eggs."The debate, which may come as a relief to those with argumentative relatives, was organized by Disney to promote the release of the film "Chicken Little" on DVD.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26....egg/index.html

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Absolute truth. No. The fossil record, carbon dating, and other wizardry of science is only 99% accurate and makes perfect logical sense. A book a few thousand years old that claims to be the word of god on the other hand...:rolleyes:What do you think about muslims who don't believe in a christian god? Are they just to afraid to accept "the truth"Christian fundamentalists are amoung the most narrow minded people on earth.

I laughed at the irony.

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I laughed at the irony.

Agreed, it should've read religous fundamentalists, however I fail to see any irony

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Agreed, it should've read religous fundamentalists, however I fail to see any irony

I think just 'fundamentalists' would have worked best.

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"Fundie" is a good word too. More mocking.

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"Fundie" is a good word too. More mocking.

Hahaha.I should point out that when I say fundamentalists, I don't mean all religious people. There are a lot of intelligent christians/muslims/jews/whatever that are very open minded. The fundies are the ones that protest at soldiers funerals, or blame hurricane katrina and NOs evil ways, etc.

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Just don't go Stu Ungar on us ok..... Hate to have that brilliant poker mind go to waste...I've read many of your posts in strat.

well said

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Hahaha.I should point out that when I say fundamentalists, I don't mean all religious people. There are a lot of intelligent christians/muslims/jews/whatever that are very open minded. The fundies are the ones that protest at soldiers funerals, or blame hurricane katrina and NOs evil ways, etc.

God is not open minded- what you are speaking of is a wilingness to compromise, and God despises that. As far as these fundamentalist you are talking about, thank God I don't know anyone like that.

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God is not open minded- what you are speaking of is a wilingness to compromise, and God despises that. As far as these fundamentalist you are talking about, thank God I don't know anyone like that.

Obviously god is not open minded, since that would mean he could be wrong, which is impossible if he is omnipotent.But god being open minded and people being open minded are two completely unrelated things. A religious person can be open minded without being blasphemous. It is the close minded people that think they know exactly what god wants and live their lives in accordance with that belief that are the fundamentalists. Nothing you can say can change their mind about anything because they "know" everything because they "know" what god wants. These people should be locked up.And how do you know that god despises open-mindedness or willingness to compromise? That sounds pretty silly to me. If it wasn't for open-mindedness, we would probalby still live in caves. If it wasn't for compromise, our species probalby would have been whiped off the earth a while ago.

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Obviously god is not open minded, since that would mean he could be wrong, which is impossible if he is omnipotent.But god being open minded and people being open minded are two completely unrelated things. A religious person can be open minded without being blasphemous. It is the close minded people that think they know exactly what god wants and live their lives in accordance with that belief that are the fundamentalists. Nothing you can say can change their mind about anything because they "know" everything because they "know" what god wants. These people should be locked up.And how do you know that god despises open-mindedness or willingness to compromise? That sounds pretty silly to me. If it wasn't for open-mindedness, we would probalby still live in caves. If it wasn't for compromise, our species probalby would have been whiped off the earth a while ago.

You lack everything it would take to have a coherent discussion about theis, namely the ability to make sense. Read the New Testament- tell me one scripture where it gives a commandment followed by " Well, if you disagree or don't want to do it, that's cool too. " God is the exact opposite of compromise, and made that point in the last few scriptures in the Bible, where he says to get it right, and if anyone adds to this book or takes away from it, they have hell to look forward to. Yeah, compromise is what got us where we are. Tell that to the indians.

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You lack everything it would take to have a coherent discussion about theis, namely the ability to make sense. Read the New Testament- tell me one scripture where it gives a commandment followed by " Well, if you disagree or don't want to do it, that's cool too. " God is the exact opposite of compromise, and made that point in the last few scriptures in the Bible, where he says to get it right, and if anyone adds to this book or takes away from it, they have hell to look forward to. Yeah, compromise is what got us where we are. Tell that to the indians.

Alright. You win. What our ancestors did the Indians was righteous according to the bible. Good thing god created them too, or we would have had no one to slaughter and send to hell.The noveltly of responding to your retarded posts is starting to wear off. Now I feel pretty distrurbed that there are actually people in the world that think the way you do. Anyway, in the 1 in a trillion shot that you're actually right, I'll seem like the sucker as you gaze down at my burning corpse from you seat next to the almighty. Until then.

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Alright. You win. What our ancestors did the Indians was righteous according to the bible. Good thing god created them too, or we would have had no one to slaughter and send to hell.The noveltly of responding to your retarded posts is starting to wear off. Now I feel pretty distrurbed that there are actually people in the world that think the way you do. Anyway, in the 1 in a trillion shot that you're actually right, I'll seem like the sucker as you gaze down at my burning corpse from you seat next to the almighty. Until then.

You missed the point- humans are not big on compromise,it goes against our nature. As far as the indian thing, that was a reference to a time when we were most definitely not compromising- I in no way condone the slaughter of anybody, innocent or not, and the Bible doesn't either. Not suprised you would tire of replying- you have got nothing to say. It must be tough to comment on things you know little about.

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You missed the point- humans are not big on compromise,it goes against our nature. As far as the indian thing, that was a reference to a time when we were most definitely not compromising- I in no way condone the slaughter of anybody, innocent or not, and the Bible doesn't either. Not suprised you would tire of replying- you have got nothing to say. It must be tough to comment on things you know little about.

Right.

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Right.

Touche.