Question About High Stakes Poker

[lordofelt 0]

Well according to Gabe Kaplan and the producers of High Stakes Poker, DN actually won a few million dollar pots when he bet all in into a 40,000 pot. Anyone else hate that they would do that everytime someone would be all in and rake the pot uncontested?

I hate that too! This is by far my biggest pet peeve with regards to Poker on TV!! Happens on the WPT all the time someone goes all in for 1.6 Million and a short stack with 100K calls and the pot graphich shows 1.7 Million so annoying when you know only around 250K is up for grabs. Guess it makes for more fun to announce but annoying none the less.

[ROGUE06 0]

I hate that too! This is by far my biggest pet peeve with regards to Poker on TV!! Happens on the WPT all the time someone goes all in for 1.6 Million and a short stack with 100K calls and the pot graphich shows 1.7 Million so annoying when you know only around 250K is up for grabs. Guess it makes for more fun to announce but annoying none the less.

Yup definetly annoying but it is by far more worse on High Stakes Poker compared to any other show like WPT since it's just a tourney. When they try to emphasize that it is a $1,000,000 pot in real money, all I can do just shake my head.

[InertGrudge 0]

Yup definetly annoying but it is by far more worse on High Stakes Poker compared to any other show like WPT since it's just a tourney. When they try to emphasize that it is a $1,000,000 pot in real money, all I can do just shake my head.

Well, before anyone calls when DN puts that much money in, the pot is actually correct.Correct, but misleading.

[Aschlanser 0]

If anyone remembers the videos shown during hte 2005 WSOP on card player they had interviews with dealers and they were discussing tip sizes, i'm not certain what stakes the dealers dealt, but one had said something about recieving a $1000 tip from one hand. I'll try and find the videoI can't find a direct link to the video, but it is on the video archive of the wsop 20005 review in set 15, it is called "tips on tipping"

[jmanj 0]

I spoke with a dealer at the newly opened poker room at the venetian after he dealt the big game that was being played in the 'salon'. They were playing 4k/8k and the players have their own stack of chips for tipping. Each dealer works in 30 min rotations. At the end of each dealer rotation all the players in the game would throw the dealer a $5 chip. The players in the game that night that I recognized were Greenstein, Harman, Chip Reese, and Phil Ivey.I did hear another story at a different casino. Dealer told me Gus Hansen tipped him 30,000 after he won a 1.2 million hold 'em pot. p.s. Gus holding -- 32os

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

On more than one occasion, I'm almost positive I saw DN and others throw the dealer a pink chip after a really big hand. Pink chips were $500. I could be wrong, but I have DVR (like Tivo) and I rewinded a couple times to make sure I was seeing it right. Maybe he could clarify for us.

I would be willing to bet the only time you saw one of the players 'toss a 500 to the dealer' was in an effort to post one of the blinds. The same way I might toss a 25 dollar chip to the dealer in a 2/5 NL game, or a 5 dollar chip in a 1/2 NL game. These guys are rich--they're not dumb.Tipping 500 dollars three times a night, for 150 nights a year, is absolutely one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Do the math.Think about why.

[mx957 0]

When we go to a more elegant restaraunt, the bill is over $200. I would tip $40. You believe we should still leave $10 for a tip because the waiters "did the same job" as in the other place ?

Completely different situtaion. If you go to an elegant restaraunt you are paying the higher prices for 1) better food 2) better service and 3) better atmosphere. So yes you should tip more because you are buying a better product.In high stakes poker, the stakes increase which the players are at a higher risk. But the casino doesn't do anything whatsoever to enhance the product.Therefore, the tip is the same.If you don't recognize the difference then ask yourself why are you tipping. Do you tip because it's expected and you don't want to be a cheapskate or are you actually tipping for superior service?

[UNCpoker 0]

Completely different situtaion. If you go to an elegant restaraunt you are paying the higher prices for 1) better food 2) better service and 3) better atmosphere. So yes you should tip more because you are buying a better product.In high stakes poker, the stakes increase which the players are at a higher risk. But the casino doesn't do anything whatsoever to enhance the product.Therefore, the tip is the same.If you don't recognize the difference then ask yourself why are you tipping. Do you tip because it's expected and you don't want to be a cheapskate or are you actually tipping for superior service?

Actually I would think you are wrong in this situation. In this GSN game, there are several things that either are/or I would think of these players getting special treatment compared to your average player at the 3/6 limit game or 1/2 NL game.1) A private/secure room to play in.2) Hopefully a better/seasoned dealer who will make less mistakes and know how to deal all types of games which is what they normally play in the big game.3) 4 or 5 servers/women dress up to wait on ONE table.4) a floor person to worry about just ONE table.So their poker game could be a little different than your average poker game.

[ForRealDD 0]

So they tell the casino that they will not pay a rake because it would cut into their profits ?When my husband and I go to the local italian place, the tab is $50 and we leave $10 tip.When we go to a more elegant restaraunt, the bill is over $200. I would tip $40. You believe we should still leave $10 for a tip because the waiters "did the same job" as in the other place ?

They actually didn't do the same job. Their employee attire was probably purchased by them at a higher price than the kid's at Red Lobster. You, going to finer restaurants should know first hand that they provide another class of service at fine restaurants. Just sayin

[UNCpoker 0]

Tipping a dealer $5 after ANY size pot is huge!If a dealer in that game gets a $5 tip after each hand - he/she is going to make approx $200 an hour - for dealing cards.Thats a pretty decent wage dont you think?It's highly unlikely players would tip more than that no matter what the stakes are. These are pros and poker is their business. It is simple business sense to not be frivolous with their assests.

Tipping $5 after any pot is huge as I would love to get that after each hand I deal. A few things on this that I would think though are that, I doubt the dealer is locked in for an hour in this game, probably two dealers rotating every 30 minutes plus I think it would be impossible to get 40 hands per hour in this game. I would think in this game that 30-34 hands per hour would be closer to the thruth, with it being closer to 30 for several reasons.So 15 hand per your 30 mins ( so if they do actually make on average of $5 per hand, that is still $75 per hour plus your hourly minimum wage.

[mx957 0]

Actually I would think you are wrong in this situation. In this GSN game, there are several things that either are/or I would think of these players getting special treatment compared to your average player at the 3/6 limit game or 1/2 NL game.1) A private/secure room to play in.2) Hopefully a better/seasoned dealer who will make less mistakes and know how to deal all types of games which is what they normally play in the big game.3) 4 or 5 servers/women dress up to wait on ONE table.4) a floor person to worry about just ONE table.So their poker game could be a little different than your average poker game.

And it's on TV. So the Nugget made their "SET" more tv friendly. The fact of the matter remains. The increase in stakes is a matter for the players. It has ZERO effect on the dealers. The dealers know this, the players know this and therefore they don't need to pay a bigger tip.When you go to the car wash, do you think that you should tip more because you drive a Hummer VS a Jeep Cherokee to the guys drying off the cars? Same thing here, the Hummer and the Jeep Cherokee deserve the same attention so the car wash attendant doesn't deserve a bigger tip. He may think well the guy with the expensive car can afford to give me a bigger tip. But that doesn't mean that he deserves a bigger tip.

[Jam-Fly 8]

yeah, there are $5 chips, when players go all in there are still chips behind. yeah, $100 or so is meaningless, only an ante, but why would you give the money to a practical stranger ?! Its all relevant. I'm sure none of those players would pay $544 for a cup of coffee, more like $5.44. Except maybe Chip Reese, he paid $2k two months in a row for his water bill (there was a leek)

[UNCpoker 0]

And it's on TV. So the Nugget made their "SET" more tv friendly. The fact of the matter remains. The increase in stakes is a matter for the players. It has ZERO effect on the dealers. The dealers know this, the players know this and therefore they don't need to pay a bigger tip.When you go to the car wash, do you think that you should tip more because you drive a Hummer VS a Jeep Cherokee to the guys drying off the cars? Same thing here, the Hummer and the Jeep Cherokee deserve the same attention so the car wash attendant doesn't deserve a bigger tip. He may think well the guy with the expensive car can afford to give me a bigger tip. But that doesn't mean that he deserves a bigger tip.

Not a very good example you have there. You are talking about something that two people own that is different that use the exact same service. The service I mentioned for the GSN show is NOT the same service that any regular player gets at their local Casino.I deal poker for a living and have play/ed different games at different levels at different times at different places and they all do not tip the same.When I deal 4/8 vs. 4/8 kill vs. 10/20 I average different amounts based on the type of game. Now I am not saying that because this is a super high level game where a pot could be over a 100k that the players should tip $100 or higher, but I would expect them to tip more than $1 or $2 that you get as a dealer in your local 4/8 game.