What Do You Think About Hoyt (easyh) Corkins All In Here?

[iggymcfly 0]

Its not only that. Note that Hoyt had only committed ten percent of his stack on his initial raise (not forty percent as someone else suggested on here). It should be within a poker pro's ability to lay down a marginal raising hand A10o (a good hand, but far from a true premium hand) in such a situation, especially with the stakes and the timing.

I didn't phrase it very well, but I was saying that the BB committed 40% of his stack with the reraise, and since he was committed to the hand, Hoyt couldn't expect to have any fold equity against him. Something in the bet must have made Hoyt thing it was just a pure resteal rather than a legitimate hand. He made a bad read, but you can't say it was a donk play unless you saw how the BB played throughout the tournament.

[Mercury69 3]

Hoyt might have made a bigger initial raise here, to represent a bigger hand than he had. As it was, the other guy jumped all over it, which says something if Hoyt was truly playing tight. Anyway, I hope I'm there some day, at a PS FT...<sigh>

[blakheart 3]

Flip this around for a second. Hoyt makes a standard size raise, which seems odd. He either has a monster and wants action, or is trying to steal since he pushes all in a lot with marginal holdings. So villian with AK raises for information. Hoyt comes back over the top all in. OK- so Hoyt is representing AA or KK, mayber AK. can you really call with AK? The only reason villian makes this call is becuase he feels pot committed or he thinks that Hoyt is on a bluff. He is behind on hands that Hoyt is representing. I think it is a more marginal call then a marginal push.

[Mercury69 3]

I still think a 3xBB (Hoyt's initial) raise is dumb. To me, it doesn't represent AK or anything premium, it repersents a half assed steal attempt. Even if the other guy took it to rep AK or high PP, the other guy was on it like white on rice, which says what? That he has an equally good, if not better holding. For Hoyt to join the overbet party was a mistake. But that's me with all the info and no BR, so what the heck do I know? lol

[dms26 3]

Flip this around for a second. Hoyt makes a standard size raise, which seems odd. He either has a monster and wants action, or is trying to steal since he pushes all in a lot with marginal holdings. So villian with AK raises for information. Hoyt comes back over the top all in. OK- so Hoyt is representing AA or KK, mayber AK. can you really call with AK? The only reason villian makes this call is becuase he feels pot committed or he thinks that Hoyt is on a bluff. He is behind on hands that Hoyt is representing. I think it is a more marginal call then a marginal push.

getting 2.5-1 when you already have half your stack in the middle is a marginal call? Especially against Hoyt?

[ChipLeader7 0]

The way I see it is that Hoyt had been stealing alot of blinds and thought that the villian noticed this and was making a resteal.

[Mercury69 3]

If a resteal, it's pretty legit w/AK holding. Whatever Hoyt's thinking, he's unlucky on two counts: His opponent had him dominated and then hit his 3 outer on the river.

[irishguy 14]

The way I see it is that Hoyt had been stealing alot of blinds and thought that the villian noticed this and was making a resteal.

Not sure if you'd been watching or not but I had watched Hoyt for the past hour/hour and a half at this point and he hadn't been stealing blinds a lot. He doubled up more often than not while I was watching do to post flop play. Having noticed this as his opponent I would've been hesitant to call the all-in with A K except for the fact of feeling pot committed. To me the 3xbb raise then push would've screamed strength to me but then again I would've been wrong.

[Mercury69 3]

Ultimately, this discussion is a perfect illustration of the many variables in poker. No hand is ever, ever replicated exactly, regardless of your sense of deja vu. That's what makes it such an interesting game.

[blakheart 3]

getting 2.5-1 when you already have half your stack in the middle is a marginal call? Especially against Hoyt?

Depends on your read- If you think he can only have AA, KK or AK, 2.5-1 is not good enough.

[zimmer4141 0]

Hoyt read the guy for a resteal, the guy wasn't on a resteal, gg Hoyt. If you are truly a good player, you won't be scared to look like an idiot, and you will look like an idiot sometimes when plays backfire.

[thechad5 0]

If he thinks the player is capable of making the fold here and puts his opponent on a small pair trying to push him off the pot its an understandable play with AKs or any PP of 10-10 or better. But with only 3xBB invested, about 1/10 of his stack its a terrible play with A-10. He had to have put his opponent on a low pp to even consider making that play. Just goes to show that even a pro is capable of having a brain fart. That late in a tourney he was probably spent and made the common mistake of putting his opponent on hand that he could beat to make his move seem rational. Out of position betting into a player who committed nearly a 1/3 of his stack is a sure fire sign of being mentally spent. His opponent made a good overbet play as he had to have Hoyt on something around AQo-A10o or KQo-K10s with the standard 3xBB raise. 4xBB and I think the hand goes differently. In Hoyt's eyes the overbet made him think that his opponent wanted him to go away, so I can kinda understand. However, he forgot to ask himself what his opponent could fold with and what his opponent could call with. You really cant give him any chance of a fold with what hands you could have him on, and there aren't any that are much better than a coin flip. If you've only got 1/10 of your stack involved and the best you can hope for is a coin flip do you make that play?...of course not.