I Don't Understand How To Play Limit Hold'em Tournaments

[ErikVegas 0]

(ErikVegas @ Thursday, April 27th, 2006, 4:14 PM) I play lots of limit tournaments (one a week) Erik

What a contradiction that statement is...lolIf lots = 1 every seven days, what is the definition of playing 3 Limit SNG's per day, 5 days a week?

Lets see, I play the ONLY live limit evening tournament in Vegas and have played it every Wendsday night for 2 years. So yeah I can consider that playing LOTS of limit tourneys. In addition SNGs dont count. Try playing Limit MTTs (200+players). Strategy is COMPLETLY different than playing a SNG. Im not denigrating you but before you throw stones you should learn whom you are throwing at.Erik

[Rocketwadster 0]

What a contradiction that statement is...lolIf lots = 1 every seven days, what is the definition of playing 3 Limit SNG's per day, 5 days a week? Lets see, I play the ONLY live limit evening tournament in Vegas and have played it every Wendsday night for 2 years. So yeah I can consider that playing LOTS of limit tourneys. In addition SNGs dont count. Try playing Limit MTTs (200+players). Strategy is COMPLETLY different than playing a SNG. Im not denigrating you but before you throw stones you should learn whom you are throwing at.Erik

wtf are you blabbering about? what stone did I throw? you have claimed to have played one Limit tourney a week, and classified that as lots. I even put a "lol" in there. The fact that you have played that one tournament per week for two years was not mentioned, nor is it a relevant piece of information (hence the reason why you probably did not indicate it). Someone seems a little paranoid about something, but what it is I have no idea...Wait, I take that back, as I do not want to be accused of throwing stones again...lol.LOL

[ErikVegas 0]

Full Tilt started me with 1500 and I was CARD DEAD!What do I have left to lose? If I play the hand the way you said, my tournament life. And if you think this isn't going to showdown in a $5 tourney where 4 people saw the flop, you're just wrong.

The way you discribed the hand your tournament life was prety much over anyway. You had 920 chips left and the blinds were 60/120. You had enough chips for approximatly 5 trips through the blinds at this level and since you said you were playing on full tilt the blinds were going up every 6 minutes. On average a limit hand takes 2-3 times as long to play as a NL hand this means you will see mabie 15 more hands untill the blinds are 100-200 and you have an M of 2 or less. At this point you are looking for a a hand to get all your chips in the middle with. If you are at a full table I would have probably folded K-Q off or if I was going to play it I would get in for one bet. By raising preflop with this hand you are commiting yourself to this pot no matter what comes on the flop. Full tables give you more time to catch some better cards so waiting until you had an A-8 or better or a suited ace or better is a good option.

[ErikVegas 0]

wtf are you blabbering about? what stone did I throw? you have claimed to have played one Limit tourney a week, and classified that as lots. I even put a "lol" in there. The fact that you have played that one tournament per week for two years was not mentioned, nor is it a relevant piece of information (hence the reason why you probably did not indicate it). Someone seems a little paranoid about something, but what it is I have no idea...Wait, I take that back, as I do not want to be accused of throwing stones again...lol.LOL

You are right I should have prefaced my statement by qualifying it with what the tournament was and how long I have been playing it. The stone you threw was your statement implied that because I only played this one tournament a week my previous statement had no value. In addition since it was my statement that I played one limit tournament a week that caused you to take exception to my statement that I play alot of limit tournaments the qualification statement of how hong I had been playing that tournament is far from irrelevant. Im not paranoid but I was just wondering if this is the kind of response I can expect to postings on this site. I have been a contrubuting poster on Card Player for over 3 years and was looking forward to increasing my participation here. I may be rethinking that.

[Rocketwadster 0]

Im not paranoid but I was just wondering if this is the kind of response I can expect to postings on this site. I have been a contrubuting poster on Card Player for over 3 years and was looking forward to increasing my participation here. I may be rethinking that.

Awwwww. Don't do that. Now you really are being paranoid. If you don't want to participate because you took harmless comment the wrong way, I'm not going to stop you or try to convince you otherwise, as I could care less. I certainly won't discourage you from participating though.Check out my posts throughout the Tournament and Stud sections. Don't look in the Hold'em sections though (as I suck at Hold'em and Omaha 8 Ring games...lol) My advice/comments are sound. Sometimes accused of being weak-tight (eh Actuary?), but my tournament results speak volumes.

[TheRazor 0]

I don't understand what's so bad about playing a KQ suited while shorter stacked, the UTG+1 limper was loose, and I figure to have the best hand preflop.

Ummm, not to sound like a flame but...how did it work out for you?also, what if the loose limper did so with something like 68 and flop comes:K-6-8 OR 7-5-Kalso, what if the loose limper did so with something like QT and flop comes:Q-T-2also, what if the loose limper did so with something like AA?KQ (and I don't care that it is sooooooted) is still just KQ and we are short stacked.

I should have prefaced this. I have a good 5-6 years limit hold'em cash game experience both online and live. I would consider myself a good limit hold'em player and I think these tournaments play COMPLETELY different than cash games. Some of the concepts are still there but I know there is a strategy component when low on chips that I am completely missing. I understand that with the way my opponents are playing, that I can't help missing flops. In limit cashgames in loose games like this, I just wait til I hit one and then I extract maximum value out when I do, which works in limit cash games because I always have the cash in front of me to extract maximum value. This isn't the case in limit tournaments, if I don't catch anything early and get on a roll, then I don't even have enough money to benefit fully when I do catch a flop because I get so shortstacked.Anyways, I don't mean to come off like a ****, but I really don't need general advice about limit hold'em, rather need to know how the mindset changes for a tournament.

That is what I was referring by hand requirements in relation to chip position.

[Bubba83 0]

Ummm, not to sound like a flame but...how did it work out for you?also, what if the loose limper did so with something like 68 and flop comes:K-6-8 OR 7-5-Kalso, what if the loose limper did so with something like QT and flop comes:Q-T-2also, what if the loose limper did so with something like AA?KQ (and I don't care that it is sooooooted) is still just KQ and we are short stacked.That is what I was referring by hand requirements in relation to chip position.

Your post is results oriented. No, it didn't work out well for me, that happens. pocket aces lose too. What if the guy limped with Q 10 and the flop came Q T 2? Then I get all my money in and lose to two pair, but I made the right decision raising the KQ suited in that hand. Never seen a better example of results oriented thinking than your post.

[Rocketwadster 0]

but I made the right decision raising the KQ suited in that hand.

That is a matter of great debate...lol